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Mr. Lobe posted:Indeed, I'm glad that the people who decide how we grow our food have the freedom to make such tremendous profits from agricultural practices that render land unusable for generations. Won't it be exciting, when this combined with anthropogenic climate shifts throw us into a dust bowl that would make the 1930's look like a minor drought? You mean like how the Soviet government drained the Aral Sea as part of a five year plan to grow cotton for blue jeans? 
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CountFosco posted:True. And how poo poo does your government have to be when I'd rather live under untrammeled capitalism than the Leninist state. that picture was taken 8 years after Lenin's death, I don't know if you can directly blame it on his policies  
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C.M. Kruger posted:You mean like how the Soviet government drained the Aral Sea as part of a five year plan to grow cotton for blue jeans? Good that the misuse of natural resources is exclusive to state Communism, it's just sad that those sneaky communists keep stealing the water of the Aral sea even after the fall of the USSR! 
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ekuNNN posted:Good that the misuse of natural resources is exclusive to state Communism, it's just sad that those sneaky communists keep stealing the water of the Aral sea even after the fall of the USSR! Are you implying that President Islam Karimov, who continued the Soviet policies, was not head of the Communist Party of/People's Democratic Party of Uzbekistan? 
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The Colorado River doesn't reach the Sea of Cortez anymore so make what you will of that. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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C.M. Kruger posted:Are you implying that President Islam Karimov, who continued the Soviet policies, was not head of the Communist Party of/People's Democratic Party of Uzbekistan? After 1994 then, when Uzbekistan officially was no longer communist. 
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Was that guy in NYC that day for 9/11? https://twitter.com/ben_rosen/status/940688249915293696
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C.M. Kruger posted:You mean like how the Soviet government drained the Aral Sea as part of a five year plan to grow cotton for blue jeans?   Believe it or not, Lenin was actually very environmentally conscious, and was known to keep up with then-modern journals on ecology. That's why he pushed forward policy such as 'On Land’ after rising to power, which nationalised all forests, minerals and water and half a year later in May 1918 put forward another decree, ‘On Forests’, which took central control of reforestation and protection. In it, forests were divided into two categories, one of them protected from lumber, essentially as national forests. In addition to this, he also declared large tracts of wilderness to be zapovednik (essentially untouchable wildlife preserves, pictured above) and supported ecologists in a way unseen under the czar. Unfortunately, Stalin rolled back a great deal of that and considerably undercut the democracy of the Soviets generally by consolidating power into the bureaucracy, which is why you see the disastrous policies of the Soviet Union take place. If you want to say that something like a Stalin and the shortcomings of the Soviet Union are inevitable any time workers try to take power no matter what the material conditions or location may be, I suppose you can try and make that argument (though the pics thread probably isn't the place for it) but if you're going to try to say Lenin himself disregarded the environment, that's incorrect. Mr. Lobe fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Dec 14, 2017 |
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this is a bit overkill, no? https://twitter.com/MehreenKhn/status/941228427528626176
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SeANMcBAY posted:Was that guy in NYC that day for 9/11? He indeed received workers' compensation from the state of New York, probably because of services rendered on 9/11 and getting injured/falling ill because of it. Noone can say just what he exactly did, only that his grandiose claims of personally setting up a morgue and administering the last rites for everybody pulled out of the towers for two entire weeks were highly likely to be false. If anything, his story shows that he was not only a massive scumbag but also almost certainly mentally ill. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b2fvZk82YI
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Guavanaut posted:Isn't it only a mortal sin because you can't confess to it, and the only unforgivable sin is denying the Holy Spirit? You have to be Jewish to rules-lawyer God like that. 
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gbut posted:idgi Jewish rules state that you can't carry certain objects outside your home on the Sabbath and Yom Kippur. Solution: run a wire around your neighborhood (pictured) and declare the area as your home.  The New York one (it's called an Eruv) costs about $100k a year to maintain, there's a rabbi in charge of it who makes rounds before the Sabbath to ensure the wire isn't broken or compromised.
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MizPiz posted:"Americans should travel out of the country more" is the bougiest of bougie takes. I understand that I was/am incredibly privileged to be able to do so, and that it isn't a repeatable blueprint that anyone can just decide to do. I was only responding to the original tweet/image that if anti-capitalist millennials (which I qualify as) were to visit/live in the nations they admire, they'd change their tune, when in fact it made me sing it louder. Here is me right after a major knee surgery I had to have during a period of unemployment. Total cost out of pocket from the initial GP visit, to the knee MRI, specialist visit, specialist surgery, and meds/crutches after? 320 USD. I also got a paper for the rest of the year that gave me 75% off any medical costs since I'd reached a co-pay limit. 
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Mr. Lobe posted:
The perception of the Russian state as a land of barbarity and lack of civilization is a product of Western European stereotypes that go back all the way to the days of the Batlic crusades, where Western Europe used this supposed "Tartar savagery" to justify Eastward conquest. "Scratch a Russian, and you'll find a tartar." The truth is that Russia was much like other European powers of the time: a mixture of more highly developed cities and relatively undeveloped countryside. The decision to go to war was a mistake, but there's no reason to believe that a non-Czarist government would haven't made that mistake. Indeed, the only one in the Czar's court who thought going to war would be a disaster was Rasputin. Indeed, the more liberal Russian provisional government continued the war, again perhaps a mistake. But again, the Russia that the bolsheviks inherited was crippled not by "mismanagement" (any more than any other European country was "mismanaged") but more by a war that was a mistake to enter, which the Germans and Austrians goaded into entering, and by a perhaps even more disastrous civil war which followed, as the Reds and the Whites each sought to establish control over the country. Further, the lingering memory of previous social revolutions, most particularly the French revolution, led almost all wealthy and industrialists to flee the country, resulting in a draining of resources which had a profound effect. I'm not exactly happy about the government we have, but I'll take it over a nebulous communist dream of the abolition of property. If there were a communist revolution in this country, the wealthy would simply leave, but the bloodthirst would remain, leaving the next-tier down, the upper-middle and middle class, to be subject to arbitrary violence. 
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 But your imaginary idea of the Russian Communist State is in fact a product of this same orientalism you're describing.
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It's the product of taking a college course on the Russian revolution, actually. But what do facts and historical record matter when you can always assume bad faith or ideological blindness on the part of the opponent. Here's the source of my "imaginary idea" of the Russian communist state, my history professor: As though pointing out the problems of historical Communism is the same as supporting the status quo. Truth is the only measure by which we can justify our words and actions. Anyone who questions Communism by now is a member of the Austrian school? I deny the ethical validity of the unregulated free market as freely as I deny the ethics of forced collectivization.
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Why always use Russia as an example. Yugoslavia was a high-functioning communist county that broke with Stalin in 1948. The communism (kinda) worked there for almost 50 years. Until jingoistic powergrab resulted in the 1990s civil war, that is.
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CountFosco posted:I'm not exactly happy about the government we have, but I'll take it over a nebulous communist dream of the abolition of property. If there were a communist revolution in this country, the wealthy would simply leave, but the bloodthirst would remain, leaving the next-tier down, the upper-middle and middle class, to be subject to arbitrary violence. "Let me bookend my very learned argument with saying that the super rich would just go Galt if we had a revolution, leaving the military, economic and cultural superpower of the world completely helpless, and then you'll all be sorry. Also don't call me a libertarian." Maybe you should broaden your education a little. I even have a tip where you can start: 
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https://twitter.com/MackenzieAstin/status/941459382864437248 Disgusted. In lighter images https://twitter.com/TheDweck/status/940796297350664192 El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Dec 15, 2017 |
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