This should be the new taxxe. This is the greatest Reddit screengrab the Mirificus bot has ever pulled and needs to be on every page holy poo poo. That might be the brokest brain e: CIG's expert legal team working on their response to this frivolous lawsuit Beet Wagon fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Dec 14, 2017 |
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 02:51 |
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SoftNum posted:have these people actually read the complaint? Maybe they don't actually read or do anything except post on reddit. maybe that's why the game is good. none of them have played it so to them its as good as they are told. why bother reading a whole lot of words when instead we can imagine dreams
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 02:51 |
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The Titanic posted:Lol
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 02:52 |
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Watching Chris code would be like watching your dad type on a keyboard one letter at a time.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 02:52 |
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the only thing that sucks about this is when the game dies shitizens will be able to claim it WOULD have been great if crytek hadnt sundered croberts from his money
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 02:53 |
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Midnight Voyager posted:Okay, am I crazy or is that not even in the list of what he does??? He works on getting IPs started up and poo poo, according to that list, right??? Anyone working with Christ Robberts must by definition be a man of great vision. Ortwin is clearly the top lawyer in all of Europe. That's why he failed to cover CIG in basically every way possible on this contract- that's a sign of advanced lawyering, breaching contracts on camera as part of your product's publicity drive. He's definitely not a two-bit hack mostly used for drawing up boilerplate on porno videos.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 02:54 |
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That DICK! posted:Hey Mr. Derek Smart know any cool games attorneys who might be willing to address this mess on the record. All the ones I'm reaching out to are saying they cant, presumably because they're all lookin' to take Star Citizen on as a client Have you pinged those guys at popehat? ----------------
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 02:56 |
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Lladre posted:Roll your eyes. Shhhhhh. It's not for us. It's for them.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 02:56 |
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XK posted:FYI, when I looked into this a while back, it's considered bad form to act as a legal counsel for a company you helped found or are a partner to. Basically, it's because you are a part of any legal proceedings involving that company. If you are named in a suit, you can technically defend yourself, but only a fool does that. I co-founded a company and the first year served as General Counsel. Most of the work I did was writing policies, general contract review, and mostly filing patent and trademark related stuff (I was an IP attorney). Any major contracts went to our outside counsel at either Thompson Coburn or Bryan Cave. We never ended up in any litigation, but we had Bryan Cave on retainer in case that ever did happen as well as handling our international contracts. About two years in I took over at CEO and went to inactive status on my bar license. I was not a practicing attorney at that point and all our legal stuff was handled by Thompson Coburn before I sold the company.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 02:57 |
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CIG has released a video response to allegations: https://i.imgur.com/dNiKrBd.gifv
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 02:57 |
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Raskolnikov posted:Coke is a hell of a drug. "Do you know who I am? JUST DO IT!" “Your honor... look at this man. He’s so loving stoned out of his mind he barely knows which company he is part of. This is why we have 17 companies hahaha! He’s just such a lovable crack junkie we didn’t want to stop him, but now we know we must. We’d like to drop all charges because he’s a horrible bad drug addict and this ruined his better judgement. We will put him in rehabilitation and give crytech the due rewards we can muster up and we can all just keep on going haha! Come on guys this is a loving money tree! Don’t kill it now!”
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 02:58 |
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Remember one of the earlier videos of Chris pecking at the keyboard before he looks up in that infomercial way like oh hey guys didn't see you there
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 02:58 |
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Citizen dismissal reactor is at critical! We need a new narrative or it's going to blow!
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Normally I would agree but after today I will never again underestimate Crobblers and co's abilities to get themselves in trouble for doing shady poo poo so ineptly that it can be proven in court. The only reason. THE. ONLY. REASON. That nobody has challenged CIG in court is that it is a commitment. Time, energy, money, emotional poo poo. It lives with you. It sits at the table and eats with you. It never goes away until the Man in Black hits the gavel. Most people that want their refund I believe get them. Some get run around the ringer more than others, but I have not heard of someone that didn't get what they were owed if they wanted out since Beet started putting in the work on the refund page. It's amazing it's getting a lot of airtime with the recent articles, so great job Beet. So taking them to court or having a DA sniff around is easier avoided by giving them their money. No suits that are backer related. The End. But wait. There's more. This time he has hosed around with someone else's money. Someone that knows their property rights and is no stranger to writing big checks to go after it either. They would rather not pay their people than give up THEIR GODDAMNED MONEY! Cig took that which they did not pay for. The moment this injunction goes through, its over. All of it. No more money to pay for future legal costs. Fin.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:00 |
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D_Smart posted:... and even more hilarious.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:01 |
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Mirificus posted:
Linked post
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:01 |
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Uhm. Strangely, this is the correct reaction for SC fans.
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Colostomy Bag posted:Time to bring on the FTC. Oh. poo poo. You're right.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:02 |
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TheAgent posted:It doesn't matter. According to CryTek, CryTek owns any single improvement, code change or feature CIG added to the engine since 2012. That means CryTek owns Star Citizen and SQ42, and, in their lawsuit, are not only asking for damages but the entire game to stop production, permanently. Everybody always said it’d be better in UE4. Though today we know there’s no engine they’d of chosen that could have helped them. It’s not CryTeks fault, it’s all Chris Roberts and his being a chump with a chip on his shoulder.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:02 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu3uA8K6ApQ
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:03 |
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CIG: Too Big to Fail?
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:03 |
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The Titanic posted:Everybody always said it’d be better in UE4. Though today we know there’s no engine they’d of chosen that could have helped them. It’s not CryTeks fault, it’s all Chris Roberts and his being a chump with a chip on his shoulder. Star Citizen: It’s all Chris Roberts and his being a chump with a chip on his shoulder
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:04 |
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This might be a weird comparison to make but maybe some EVE players will get it. These guys sound exactly like the pubbie alliances we started kicking the poo poo out of. Whenever they knew their situation was hopeless our spies would start capturing endless examples of exactly this kind of thing where they start theorycrafting and dreaming of how they will be rescued by someone bigger and stronger. Only when they couldn't deny it anymore did they always shift into the "Well losing was a good thing because we have become untethered from our space and can now become lean elite wolf packs roaming the spaceways. You actually did us a favor silly goons."
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:04 |
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D_Smart posted:FYI, today was just the tip of the iceberg. It’s on days like today that I really miss /dereksmart. Oh well I’m sure they’re talking about it at /failedgamedevs.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:06 |
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So this is the bargaining phase, right?
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:06 |
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Well this is a right loving mess they've gotten themselves into this time.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:07 |
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DapperDon posted:The only reason. THE. ONLY. REASON. That nobody has challenged CIG in court is that it is a commitment. Time, energy, money, emotional poo poo. It lives with you. It sits at the table and eats with you. It never goes away until the Man in Black hits the gavel. Most people that want their refund I believe get them. Some get run around the ringer more than others, but I have not heard of someone that didn't get what they were owed if they wanted out since Beet started putting in the work on the refund page. It's amazing it's getting a lot of airtime with the recent articles, so great job Beet. So taking them to court or having a DA sniff around is easier avoided by giving them their money. No suits that are backer related. The End. But wait. There's more. This time he has hosed around with someone else's money. Someone that knows their property rights and is no stranger to writing big checks to go after it either. They would rather not pay their people than give up THEIR GODDAMNED MONEY! Cig took that which they did not pay for. The moment this injunction goes through, its over. All of it. No more money to pay for future legal costs. This time it is CIG who are at the wrong end of a 'death by litigation' battle. They are used to being the side with attorneys that have nothing better to do than create work for a consumer (who typically doesn't have a large legal budget). CIG will likely have to retain someone like Venable if they seriously want to prevail. And they are not cheap either, so it boils down to who has the resources for the long-haul. Skadden had the luxury of reviewing the case and its potential before taking it on and pushing it to this point. CIG is behind the eight-ball here. The only thing they might have in their back pocket is one of the things Ortwin mentioned in his article, insurance to help defray these type of legal expenses.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:08 |
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G0RF posted:It’s on days like today that I really miss /dereksmart. sort by new last post 18 days ago welp
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:08 |
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Someone keep an eye out for a gently used limited edition porsche for sale in the LA area
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:08 |
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ewe2 posted:Hahaaha, Derek, make it so! I'm playing my parpsongs and finding new hilarity in them. The samples are EVERYWHERE! He’s not exactly a guy given to saying things once!
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:09 |
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ComfyPants posted:So this is the bargaining phase, right? No it's the loving Idiot phase
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:09 |
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Blue On Blue posted:Someone keep an eye out for a gently used limited edition porsche for sale in the LA area also a very professionally made diy garage door
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:12 |
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peter gabriel posted:No it's the loving Idiot phase But we've been in that since the Kickstarter.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:12 |
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god drat i'd LOVE to hear from some developers in the belly of the beast of CIG at the moment come on guys, give us the scoop
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:12 |
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A most astute observation from the Frontier forums: Any comment from legal Goons? You'd think a termination clause would be absolutely necessary at a serious point of development. Well no, this is Chris Roberts.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:13 |
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Hopefully one of the five community managers can reach out and calm the community.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:14 |
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3.0 will still be released to the persistant universe before christmas, right?
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:16 |
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How much does Ortwin's book cost?
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:16 |
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ComfyPants posted:But we've been in that since the Kickstarter. Yeah, it's more like an Age, like the Stone Age, Bronze Age, Weapons Grade Idiot Age and so on
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:18 |
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So if Crytek freezes all of the assets I'll still get this awesome Star Citizen novella I bought for $15 back in 2012 right?
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