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Rad Russian posted:We'll know more soon but as others haven mentioned they were hoping that either a) Crytek goes under or b) Their game comes out two weeks from now and generates $500 million in sales and they buy the rest of crytek with it. Neither has happened. No, it means that if Crytek wins - as I expect they would - on ANY of their claims, they will own EVERYTHING related to this ENTIRE project as part of their collection efforts. ----------------
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ewe2 posted:A most astute observation from the Frontier forums: Well I am no lawyer but I have pieces of ham in my fridge that I would employ to defend me in court before that embalmed, perma grinning gonad.
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Dusty Lens posted:If none of these gaming outlets makes a jokes about transitioning from spacesuits to lawsuits I'm going to be pretty upset. 
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D_Smart posted:No, it means that if Crytek wins - as I expect they would - on ANY of their claims, they will own EVERYTHING related to this ENTIRE project as part of their collection efforts. What are the odds that Crytek releases "Citizen of the Stars" in two years and saves their business?
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thatguy posted:How much does Ortwin's book cost? https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/di...n=9783540157281
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alf_pogs posted:also a very professionally made diy garage door I already called Dibs on the door made from old ply-wood and an old antique door opener.  3.0 Jesus Patch posted:my garage door opener is on it's last legs, hopefully CiG defaults quickly that way i can get dibbs on they're garage door opener with a few bits of plywood that was just lying around for cheap.
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thatguy posted:How much does Ortwin's book cost? $64.54 at Amazon I don't speak German, but it looks like entertainment law.
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SpaceCurtisLeMay posted:If you are named in a suit, you can technically defend yourself, but only a fool does that. I co-founded a company and the first year served as General Counsel. Most of the work I did was writing policies, general contract review, and mostly filing patent and trademark related stuff (I was an IP attorney). Any major contracts went to our outside counsel at either Thompson Coburn or Bryan Cave. We never ended up in any litigation, but we had Bryan Cave on retainer in case that ever did happen as well as handling our international contracts. About two years in I took over at CEO and went to inactive status on my bar license. I was not a practicing attorney at that point and all our legal stuff was handled by Thompson Coburn before I sold the company. Ortwin’s mentioned as having priveleged information as well as the Crytek side of the GLA they reference in Carl Jones. Like very specifically mentioned to give the impression of bad faith. They need adults. This is not a frivolous lawsuit.
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thatguy posted:Derek I know what you're getting for Christmas. Say what you want about old coffin dwelling Ortwin but the guy comes up with some catchy book titles "Die Vervielfältigung von Filmen durch Hochschulen und ihre Einrichtungen: Rechtliche Probleme untersucht am Beispiel des IWF-Filmverleihs" Rolls off the tongue
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peter gabriel posted:Well I am no lawyer but I have pieces of ham in my fridge that I would employ to defend me in court before that embalmed, perma grinning gonad. peter gabriel posted:Say what you want about old coffin dwelling Ortwin but the guy comes up with some catchy book titles His other publication was on copyright. Irony bonus. Edit: hat’s off, Derek, that was pretty amazing. Looking forward to the next drop. Saitek?
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ewe2 posted:A most astute observation from the Frontier forums:
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D_Smart posted:No, it means that if Crytek wins - as I expect they would - on ANY of their claims, they will own EVERYTHING related to this ENTIRE project as part of their collection efforts. JUDGE: “I find for the plaintiff and do hereby award them the largest pile of engineering debts in gaming history in addition to CIG’s toxic gaming community and their attendant dysfunctions and hopeless expectations.” PROSECUTING ATTORNEY: “Wait! No!”
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G0RF posted:JUDGE: “I find for the plaintiff and do hereby award them the largest pile of engineering debts in gaming history in addition to CIG’s toxic gaming community and their attendant dysfunctions and hopeless expectations.” Crytek dev: "Man I wish we could get back at those CIG motherfuckers" *monkey paw curls a finger*
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D_Smart posted:No, it means that if Crytek wins - as I expect they would - on ANY of their claims, they will own EVERYTHING related to this ENTIRE project as part of their collection efforts. I wonder if they get all of the assets but none of the obligations to release anything.
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I don't know anything about anything but I have a feeling that movie copyright law from three decades ago and videogame engine copyright law from today might differ a bit.
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G0RF posted:JUDGE: “I find for the plaintiff and do hereby award them the largest pile of engineering debts in gaming history in addition to CIG’s toxic gaming community and their attendant dysfunctions and hopeless expectations.” You're forgetting the rights to the likeness of Gary Oldman playing an old angry thumb. I mean maybe Dreamworks can spin a movie out of that.
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thatguy posted:Publication date: 09/27/1985 Kevin Minnick looks a lot like Adm Bekhar  in glasses.
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XK posted:Just lol that mspaint scribble is now highly likely to be a critical piece of evidence in a lawsuit. “Your honor, I’d like to introduce to the court this piece of evidence. This is a jpeg of our jpeg system and how it proves everyone is wrong except us. Because we
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Scruffpuff posted:Star Citizen: Out of the Xi'An Pan, Into the Pyre Ho, boy.
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CryTek: 'So if we win we get everything?' Lawyer:'yup' CryTek: 'Assets, rights, all of it?' Lawer: 'yup, even their web site lol' CryTek: 'and, and erm, their customers?' Lawyer: 'yup, their customers, community, all of it' CryTek: 'commm, community?' Lawyer: Yes your honour our client would like to drop the case
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XK posted:Just lol that mspaint scribble is now highly likely to be a critical piece of evidence in a lawsuit. what thats not how code works thats not how anything works what
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Fargin Icehole posted:Ho, boy. Pull out thread, pull out.
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XK posted:Just lol that mspaint scribble is now highly likely to be a critical piece of evidence in a lawsuit. It would be funnier to submit the Back to the Future edition.
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turn off the TV posted:Actually, you can download the CryEngine for free off of their website, so CIG has done nothing wrong by redistributing what was already free. Sounds iron clad to me
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I read the news today, oh boy Crytek is suing CIG for contract breach And Derek Smart was oh so glad And I just had to laugh I saw the funding graph Cig went straight to damage control; But what they said implicated them even more Reddit jumped straight to CIG's defense And said they'd pledge some more Chris has got the money, now he's running straight out of the door
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I wonder if they get all of the assets but none of the obligations to release anything. that's how it usually goes, i'd think backers, ie "insecured debtors" have $170m in the project that's likely mostly gone coutts has their loan for like 5m or whatever crytek sues and wins for 30m cig goes out of business, remaining contents of the company valued at $10m coutts probably gets their collateral if they don't call in the loan tomorrow crytek gets the rest backers get zilch rip cig
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Xaerael posted:I read the news today, oh boy And in the end, the money you take is equal to the jpegs you make.
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Golli posted:$64.54 at Amazon Sounds legit - the way he does law is loving entertaining.
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thatguy posted:I don't know anything about anything but I have a feeling that movie copyright law from three decades ago and videogame engine copyright law from today might differ a bit. The price of cocaine has gone up at least.
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