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FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


They're tiny spandex socks- you have to stretch them over their tiny beans, and then they (theoretically) should stay put. I haven't put them on Momo yet, because he is being a Good Boy and is also getting used to his new jingly collar, and I figured booties on top of that would be Too Much for his tiny cat mind.


If I do put them on him, I'll take a video of how he reacts. Probably by laying on the ground and resigning himself to death.

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POOL IS CLOSED
Jul 14, 2011

I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.
Pillbug
Even cats know death is certain.

Those are cute shame booties though. :3:

Organza Quiz
Nov 7, 2009


Ratzap
Jun 9, 2012

Let no pie go wasted
Soiled Meat
That gif make me want to kick that smug shithead in the nuts. Repeatedly. Or stick him in the middle of a frozen lake with vinyl super glued to his hands/feet - see how he likes it.


My pair are continuing their plan to bankrupt me. Last week they did the same routine they do every morning waiting for breakfast to be served. Oliver licks Buffys forehead a couple of times then bites her, she rears back and takes a swipe at him. Every morning for 17 years (they won't eat in separate rooms). Except this time he was too slow dodging (old age catching up) and she caught him square in the face. Three days later his right eye is shut and crusted. Being a Sunday with the vets closed I cleaned it myself.
I took him in on Monday and he's got a sequestered ulcer on his eye in the form of a scratch mark. Well done Buffy. He gets antibiotic cream in his eye twice a day till next week then goes back. If the ulcer is still there they'll want to get in an eye specialist to abraid it down and let it heal again.

Rat Patrol
Feb 15, 2008

kill kill kill kill
kill me now
Do you trim your cats' claws? If you think they might start scratching each other now, it'd probably be good to keep them trimmed down me.

Ratzap
Jun 9, 2012

Let no pie go wasted
Soiled Meat

Huntersoninski posted:

Do you trim your cats' claws? If you think they might start scratching each other now, it'd probably be good to keep them trimmed down me.

Regularly. They're very old and don't do them much themselves any more bar the odd "Rarr, I am fierce!" 3 seconds on the scratcher. They were both last trimmed about 10 days prior to him getting a face full of paw - my mother was visiting and she held them down while I clipped.

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

I think my cat is sick :(

3 weeks ago she vomited like 7 times in a single day, including everything she ate. She was then fine for a week, then she vomited a few times during the second week. On Friday she started to vomit up everything she eats. Sometime she just vomits water.

I changed her food but that didn't help. I then gave her wet food but that didn't help either. Giving her as little as 3 pieces of wet food would lead to her vomiting them up again.

She's 12 years old. She's just as active as ever, bouncing all over the place and jumping around on the furniture.

I give her like 10 pieces of dry food every few hours and she eats that without vomiting but she's obviously very hungry

New pics:





She has this permanent kitten thing going on but she's 12.

I booked a time with the vet in about 3 hours.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Yeah that much vomitting sounds like a blockage :(

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Back from the vet. They felt around and found no sign of tenderness around the abdomen. Heartbeat and breathing was good. No sign of dehydration and the gums were a good colour.

They took a blood test and sent me back home with her with some special catfood since she's a senior citizen cat and all.

They gave her a little 80s legwarmer. She's so fashionable now :3:

Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep




Maybe she's just being a complete idiot and suddenly eating too fast. My boss' cat gets 20-30 kibbles many times a day otherwise she horks it all.

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Boogalo posted:

Maybe she's just being a complete idiot and suddenly eating too fast. My boss' cat gets 20-30 kibbles many times a day otherwise she horks it all.

Could be. Though once she got no food for half the day so she stopped vomiting. Then she got 3 pieces of wet food (each piece is like 10x5 mm. And she vomited those up and then about 5cl of liquid.

Joburg
May 19, 2013


Fun Shoe
My old cat has been vomiting (more) and losing weight. A blood test last week came up with pancreatitis. She’s now on Cerenia and it has helped a lot. No more vomiting and she will eat more than a few bites at a time. Maybe they can give you some of the magic pills for your kitty.

D34THROW
Jan 29, 2012

RETAIL RETAIL LISTEN TO ME BITCH ABOUT RETAIL
:rant:

Boogalo posted:

Maybe she's just being a complete idiot and suddenly eating too fast. My boss' cat gets 20-30 kibbles many times a day otherwise she horks it all.

Quiggs was a gobbler. Every day for the two years between my wife and I moving in and the day he passed, he would gobble and puke. Wasn't malnourished, just a dipshit.

Perdy has permakitten syndrome as well. Almost two and she's petite (but chunky). She's taken to sitting next to the hamster cage watching them all night when she's not in our room begging for pets or scratching the carpet all up. She's still super-skittish but at least she comes to me!

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Joburg posted:

My old cat has been vomiting (more) and losing weight. A blood test last week came up with pancreatitis. She’s now on Cerenia and it has helped a lot. No more vomiting and she will eat more than a few bites at a time. Maybe they can give you some of the magic pills for your kitty.

God I hope not. The last week of my last cats life was just me force feeding her pills she refused to swallow and her being scared of getting more pills.

Katt fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Dec 11, 2017

Jorge Von Bacon
Nov 1, 2010
I'm having an issue with one of my cats.

We have two adopted cats, sisters that have lived together since they were born - around 3 years old now. They are rescues, and their mother was fully feral and they have some weird feral traits as well. They are very hands-off, but had never been aggressive since we got them.

One of our cats (Sushi) had to get surgery due to a bladder stone. All good now, but had to wear a cone for a week. During that time, we kept them mostly separated, but a few times the other cat (Melita) got out and tried to attack.

Since then, Melita has been super aggressive with Sushi - we've tried to reintroduce them slowly by putting food close to a cracked door, but she will sometimes try to attack through the door if she knows Sushi is there.

We've tried playing with them both in the same room, but Sushi at this point will just hide or sit still if she knows Melita is in the room or the door between them is open.

Any ideas on how to reintroduce them or lessen the aggression?

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Jorge Von Bacon posted:

I'm having an issue with one of my cats.

We have two adopted cats, sisters that have lived together since they were born - around 3 years old now. They are rescues, and their mother was fully feral and they have some weird feral traits as well. They are very hands-off, but had never been aggressive since we got them.

One of our cats (Sushi) had to get surgery due to a bladder stone. All good now, but had to wear a cone for a week. During that time, we kept them mostly separated, but a few times the other cat (Melita) got out and tried to attack.

Since then, Melita has been super aggressive with Sushi - we've tried to reintroduce them slowly by putting food close to a cracked door, but she will sometimes try to attack through the door if she knows Sushi is there.

We've tried playing with them both in the same room, but Sushi at this point will just hide or sit still if she knows Melita is in the room or the door between them is open.

Any ideas on how to reintroduce them or lessen the aggression?

I read that using a screen door or even just a screen so the cats can see and smell one another daily while still being separated could help.

Unless Sushi is so terrified that she can't live like that.

parara
Apr 9, 2010
I adopted a beautiful old man cat from a shelter a couple of days ago and I'd love to know if I'm on the right track so far. :ohdear:

He was in the resocialization department of the shelter and all they could tell me about him is that he got brought in as a stray -- he allowed me to pet him gently while he was dozing so touching isn't an issue although I'm currently skeptical of whether he truly enjoys that. To be safe I haven't attempted petting him since taking him home so he can feel more at ease first. He spends most of the time hiding (I keep him and all his supplies in the living room since my living space is small, so he's not overwhelmed by the breadth of his surroundings), but since yesterday he's okay coming out to eat and do his business in the litterbox while I'm also in the room.

He has no interest in play apart from swatting just a tad after a lot of baby talk and dangling feathers on a stick, and seems extremely sleepy/downcast whenever I'm on my stomach on the floor attempting to gently interact. I leave him alone after a while and leave a treat behind which he eventually eats.

Right now he's doing something new, though, and he's just half asleep chilling in the covered litterbox. I'm... not entirely sure if this is healthy? The upside is that the litterbox is in a spot where I could easily reach him/walk past a lot so I'm trying to take it as a sign that he's progressing. I also got a Feliway diffuser, hope this helps calm this old dude's nerves a bit! He's a beautiful cat and the bits and pieces I've seen of his personality are incredible, my guy swats all his food pellets out of the bowl and then gingerly eats them using his toe beans.

Anyway tl;dr am I too worried and should I be patient, or is this litterbox behaviour suspect?

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


parara posted:

I adopted a beautiful old man cat from a shelter a couple of days ago and I'd love to know if I'm on the right track so far. :ohdear:

He was in the resocialization department of the shelter and all they could tell me about him is that he got brought in as a stray -- he allowed me to pet him gently while he was dozing so touching isn't an issue although I'm currently skeptical of whether he truly enjoys that. To be safe I haven't attempted petting him since taking him home so he can feel more at ease first. He spends most of the time hiding (I keep him and all his supplies in the living room since my living space is small, so he's not overwhelmed by the breadth of his surroundings), but since yesterday he's okay coming out to eat and do his business in the litterbox while I'm also in the room.

He has no interest in play apart from swatting just a tad after a lot of baby talk and dangling feathers on a stick, and seems extremely sleepy/downcast whenever I'm on my stomach on the floor attempting to gently interact. I leave him alone after a while and leave a treat behind which he eventually eats.

Right now he's doing something new, though, and he's just half asleep chilling in the covered litterbox. I'm... not entirely sure if this is healthy? The upside is that the litterbox is in a spot where I could easily reach him/walk past a lot so I'm trying to take it as a sign that he's progressing. I also got a Feliway diffuser, hope this helps calm this old dude's nerves a bit! He's a beautiful cat and the bits and pieces I've seen of his personality are incredible, my guy swats all his food pellets out of the bowl and then gingerly eats them using his toe beans.

Anyway tl;dr am I too worried and should I be patient, or is this litterbox behaviour suspect?



yep, that's a cat.

Raimondo
Apr 29, 2010

parara posted:

I adopted a beautiful old man cat from a shelter a couple of days ago and I'd love to know if I'm on the right track so far. :ohdear:

He was in the resocialization department of the shelter and all they could tell me about him is that he got brought in as a stray -- he allowed me to pet him gently while he was dozing so touching isn't an issue although I'm currently skeptical of whether he truly enjoys that. To be safe I haven't attempted petting him since taking him home so he can feel more at ease first. He spends most of the time hiding (I keep him and all his supplies in the living room since my living space is small, so he's not overwhelmed by the breadth of his surroundings), but since yesterday he's okay coming out to eat and do his business in the litterbox while I'm also in the room.

He has no interest in play apart from swatting just a tad after a lot of baby talk and dangling feathers on a stick, and seems extremely sleepy/downcast whenever I'm on my stomach on the floor attempting to gently interact. I leave him alone after a while and leave a treat behind which he eventually eats.

Right now he's doing something new, though, and he's just half asleep chilling in the covered litterbox. I'm... not entirely sure if this is healthy? The upside is that the litterbox is in a spot where I could easily reach him/walk past a lot so I'm trying to take it as a sign that he's progressing. I also got a Feliway diffuser, hope this helps calm this old dude's nerves a bit! He's a beautiful cat and the bits and pieces I've seen of his personality are incredible, my guy swats all his food pellets out of the bowl and then gingerly eats them using his toe beans.

Anyway tl;dr am I too worried and should I be patient, or is this litterbox behaviour suspect?

He might just feel safer in a small enclosed box. I know my cats like to go into their cat carriers in the closet to just get away. I would leave your cat carrier on the floor in the open to see if he likes that better.

parara
Apr 9, 2010
Yeah, his carrier's been in the corner of the room and there's evidence he chills in it at night but not while I'm in the room. Maybe because it's too close to the couch, not sure. But I'm glad to hear this isn't crazy behaviour!

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

parara posted:

Yeah, his carrier's been in the corner of the room and there's evidence he chills in it at night but not while I'm in the room. Maybe because it's too close to the couch, not sure. But I'm glad to hear this isn't crazy behaviour!

Cats love having a chill space that's out of the way or mostly hidden. My cat is always happy to just hang out and chill around me, but sometimes she just wants a nice peaceful nap, and will wander off to nap in the back of the closet.

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Iron Crowned posted:

Cats love having a chill space that's out of the way or mostly hidden. My cat is always happy to just hang out and chill around me, but sometimes she just wants a nice peaceful nap, and will wander off to nap in the back of the closet.

I wish my cat did this. She likes to chill by laying splayed in the middle of the black tile floor at night between the bedroom and the bathroom.

POOL IS CLOSED
Jul 14, 2011

I'm just exploding with mackerel. This is the aji wo kutta of my discontent.
Pillbug
The litterbox thing may also be because it has his smell. I see shelter cats and kenneled cats do the same thing. As long as you know he's eating and eliminating properly then he will probably be okay. Old man just needs some time to adjust.

parara
Apr 9, 2010
Good to hear! He just seems so sleepy with his ears drooped down and eyes constantly near closed even when gently spoken to. And as someone having grown up with dogs I immediately started fretting that he must be deathly depressed or something.

Still fast asleep in his litter two hours later but dang he looks cute. :3: When he's feeling less shy I'll try to catch a pic.

FlyTB20C
Sep 16, 2004



parara posted:

litter box napping

My 6 month old shelter kitty likes to initiate sneak attacks from the litter box. At least hanging out in there doesn't fling litter everywhere like it's confetti.

Organza Quiz
Nov 7, 2009


parara posted:

Good to hear! He just seems so sleepy with his ears drooped down and eyes constantly near closed even when gently spoken to. And as someone having grown up with dogs I immediately started fretting that he must be deathly depressed or something.

Still fast asleep in his litter two hours later but dang he looks cute. :3: When he's feeling less shy I'll try to catch a pic.

Sleepy and droopy = happy and content for cats, not depressed.

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Vet called with my cats blood test results. Slightly elevated kidney and liver values and the blood was a bit concentrated.

They want me to come back for another blood test to check her pancreas and an ultra sound of her liver.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

Joburg posted:

My old cat has been vomiting (more) and losing weight. A blood test last week came up with pancreatitis. She’s now on Cerenia and it has helped a lot. No more vomiting and she will eat more than a few bites at a time. Maybe they can give you some of the magic pills for your kitty.

Yeah I had this weird thing where both my cats (10 and ~15) just refused to eat at the same time and it ended up costing a small fortune to determine that we had no idea what was wrong with them. They eventually just started scarfing like maniacs again. The blood tests showed pancreatitis in both of them but the vet said that’s kind of hard to pinpoint with any specific cause.

They’re back to bothering me every minute of the day. :3:

Joburg
May 19, 2013


Fun Shoe
That’s good to hear! Hopefully this episode won’t last long and my kitty will gain back some of the weight she lost.

LunarShadow
Aug 15, 2013


One of my cats (8month old male) has started making wierd little grunty sounds when he is laying down. It almost sounds like his purring and vocalizing at the same time. Should I be worried or is this a "cats are wierd" situation?

D34THROW
Jan 29, 2012

RETAIL RETAIL LISTEN TO ME BITCH ABOUT RETAIL
:rant:
I've never seen a cat as loving affectionate as Chino is. He hears the car door shut every day when I get home and runs from wherever he is to the couch to watch me come in, then greets me with the tilted head and soft meow. Every night, he crowds me like a Doberman and demands pets with exaggerated headbutting and flank-rubbing. He's a Daddy's boy through and through :kimchi:

BabyFur Denny
Mar 18, 2003

D34THROW posted:

I've never seen a cat as loving affectionate as Chino is. He hears the car door shut every day when I get home and runs from wherever he is to the couch to watch me come in, then greets me with the tilted head and soft meow. Every night, he crowds me like a Doberman and demands pets with exaggerated headbutting and flank-rubbing. He's a Daddy's boy through and through :kimchi:

Sounds like your cat is actually a dog stuck inside a cat’s body.

Gorgar
Dec 2, 2012

Those are some of the best cats.

LunarShadow
Aug 15, 2013


Took Huey to the vet after he didn't run to his food bowl when we filled it. (Usually he and his brother dead sprint when they hear the bag) turns out the little guy probably has pneumonia D:


Edit: Huey and M both greet me and my wife at the door, though M is the dog trapped in a cats body as he will roll over in for t of people to get belly rubs, which he loves.

effika
Jun 19, 2005
Birds do not want you to know any more than you already do.
We have a half siamese so we are greeted before the door even opens by a lot of very strongly worded and very loudly stated Opinions. Sometimes petting is an acceptable answer to this, if it's not close to food time.

If I come home in the middle of the day I don't get greeted. Instead I have to find where she is napping and wake her up so she can acknowledge my presence before returning to sleep.

left_unattended
Apr 13, 2009

"The person who seeks all their applause from outside has their happiness in another's keeping."
Dale Carnegie
I haven't read the whole thread, and I'm sure this has come up before, but I have a question about toileting. My usually indoor-outdoor cat has toileted outside, bar a few brief periods for external reasons, ever since I adopted him - that was probably 6 years ago now, he's roughly 8 we think.

I moved about two weeks ago, and although he happily comes and goes like normal, he is spending more time inside than he used to, and he's toileting inside in his litter box, which is very unusual for him. Nothing unusual in the box, all looks fine, he's not in any distress and he's not straining, he's just using his box over going outside. The only thing I can think of is that the yard at my new place is pretty drat tiny, and at my last house especially he was spoiled with a ridiculously massive yard, gardens full of bushes, the whole works. The new place doesn't have that, just a bit of grass - could that be his problem?

Re: staying inside, at my last house he would spend most of his day outside, dropping in from time to time to say hi, have a cuddle and something to eat, then bugger off again. He spent most nights inside. I realise he's still adjusting to the new flat, but it is a little weird for him to be inside so much. Not that I'm complaining, just find it curious.

kaworu
Jul 23, 2004

It's really not unheard of. My cat Jackie went through something similar - she spent her first 4 years at my dad's house, ideal for cats to stroll in and out of because it's in an extremely low-traffic dead-end. I was convinced that she wasn't going to be able to stay with me, given that I lived in an apartment downtown on the third floor (I live in a different top-floor apartment now) and wouldn't dream of letting her out unless I was with her the whole time. She wouldn't be in a house surrounded by the woods anymore, where she could be a proper cat and kill lots of thing and hide in foliage and spring out at people and dogs and roll around in the grass laying in the sun.

But as it turns out Jackie was never too much of an outdoor cat, as in 8 years she's never showed much interest or inclination in going outside anymore. Turns out she was always an epic fail at hunting unless the other cat at the time (Squeak, dearly departed but the finest cat I've ever known) would catch and maim it for her so she could finish it off and play with its semi-dead body. I'll wager she misses that, but if Squeak hadn't died before his time Jackie would probably still be living with my dad and step-mom.

Anyway, I just really wouldn't worry. Different cats respond to different environments in different ways. It also takes some time for a new cat to like... Adjust, and get used to the new neighborhood, especially in the case of cats who regularly go outside for some period of time. I remember a study they did of mounting mini-cameras and GPS markers on each cat on this block to see exactly where they go and how they interact, and it turned out that each cat basically would go on a "patrol" of sorts around the area that they consider "their territory." What was interesting I thought was that during a certain time day one cat would be outside and during another time of day be inside, and the territories overlap a great deal because of this but cats would work out between themselves (more or less) who 'owns' what territory during which time of day. I dunno why I just think that's fascinating..

And it also points to a social structure of sorts that exist between domestic cats who go outside. There could be a ton of entirely Cat-related reasons why he might be apprehensive about going outside in a totally new environment - moving is an adjustment for everyone of course, cats included, and it can effect them in various ways.

kaworu fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Dec 15, 2017

Horsey McHorseface
Jun 5, 2017


Yet another introduction-related question.

Context first:

How many cats in the household prior to new cat? 1
Name: Morrigan/Momo for short
Age? 2 years old
Sex: Female
Spayed? Yep
Usual behaviour: Not all that cuddly, but affectionate from afar (kitty kisses and stuff). She does appreciate a good petting from time to time, but she lets you know with a small-ish nibble when she's done and when playtime can begin.

New cat
Name: Baphomet/Bapho for short (pronounced with a short "ah" and not "ay")
Age? 6 years old
Sex: Male
Neutered: Yup
Usual behaviour: Cuddlebug. Could also be a grump, but I've not had him long enough to determine that for sure.


I did the whole separate introductions as best I could. I plugged in the Feliway diffuser, but the safe space, and only available other room we could put Bapho in so he could adjust, was the bedroom. Both cats spent most of the night clawing at the door trying to get to each other. Same happened the next day. I put up a makeshift gate, and they calmed down a little. I switched them around, put Momo in our room, let her have a sniff around, and did the same for Bapho. Bapho is used to other cats, and he really didn't look that bothered about Momo. He soon wanted out of his safe space though, so we let him out, and observed carefully, only letting him back into his safe room when he wanted to be left alone or when things looked like they were getting out of hand, which they never did. Momo seems curious, and Bapho seems uninterested in Momo. All he's after are cuddles.
Momo didn't take to him too well though, and there was a bit of hissing at first, but nothing more, and after a couple of days, we thought that things looked pretty positive and decided to see how it went like that for a couple of days. Now Momo spends most of her time chasing Bapho, but I'm not sure it's because she's harbouring agressive feelings towards Bapho. I really thinks she wants to play with him. She basically follows him around everywhere. When he's eating, she's generally eating too, but she will stop and go and sit closer to Bapho, lay on her side or on her back and just look at him. Again, Bapho doesn't care, but if she gets too close, he does swipe her a little, so she backs off and does the same from further away.
Bapho is still a little shy, and I get that the introductions were too short really, but I thought that I was doing the right thing at the time. Fortunately, he's only been here a week, and they have settled down a great deal. Momo goes back to snuggle on her perch, and Bapho has claimed a sofa in the lounge. There is still a bit of swatting, which happens a little, but not anytime they cross paths. They walk by each other in the corridor and just get on with things, but when Momo wants to go up and give him a sniff, Bapho will bat once at her, and she'll back off.
I guess my first question is to find out if this is normal, and if there is anything I could/should be doing to better help them along the getting-to-know-each-other phase. I realise they will probably never be cuddle buddies, because that's just not Momo, but I'd really like them to be comfortable with one another.

Second question is about getting Bapho used to a different litter, in a closed box. I'm trying to get him to use both the new litter and the new box at the same time, but since the new stuff he's using is the same stuff that Momo uses, she's kind of taken to using the litterbox assigned the Bapho. Is there anything I could do to stop her from doing that, because I'm not sure, but it could be making Bapho reluctant to use his box if there is another cat's smell in there.

TL;DR: I think I'm failing my cat introductions. :ohdear: They might just be negociating who gets what territory, but I just want to be sure.
TL;DR (2): How can I get my new cat to switch litterboxes and litter without my resident cat seeing this as an invitation for her to use his stuff too?

Also, am I overthinking this?

Thanks Catgoons.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Overthinking it unless the new cat is not peeing/pooping at all. Sounds like a standard cat introduction!

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Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Your cats are doing fine. You need a Xanax, though.

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