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horns.exr
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 15:06 |
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# ? May 15, 2024 19:35 |
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all this time and money poured into making the best piece of cinema ever with at least a million dollars per finished minute and you're just going to gently caress up the color gamut??? with a TV that looks like SDR? might as well just change the badging on your 2000 prius and say its a 2017!!!!
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 15:07 |
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imma let u finish but HDR starts at 2,000 nits
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 15:07 |
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and if you have a watercooled TV you can get up to 4000 nits yes, get ready to install a water pipe to watch TV becuase hashtag #brightness matters
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 15:08 |
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instead vesa is giving an easy pass to fisher price display manufacturers allowing them to pass off tech from 8 years ago as "hdr" DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS DOES TO THE MARKET?
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 15:09 |
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MIGHT AS WELL LET ANY KID WITH HIS CANON DSLR SHOOT HD VIDEO AND UPSCALE IT TO 4K AND BE LIKE "YUP MY 8 BITS WILL LOOK GOOD BECAUSE THE TV WILL DITHER IT ALL INTOAWKLJRAW ITJ^ lKA S SIEXXX BITS??!?! SIXXX@!#@!#!@
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 15:09 |
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DYNAMIC CONTRAST THAT poo poo LOOKS GOOD OMASHUDHM YESSSS NO NEED FOR A WATER COOLED TV NOW WE CAN SELL TVS INTO DORMS ON BLACK FRIDAY FOR 300 AND STILL MAKE 100$ PROFIT
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 15:10 |
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hurrrr nobody will pay for quality display because YOU DONT EVEN MAKE ONE cept u sony, u cool
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 15:10 |
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and on top of this watch someone else make their own standard thats even lower as if the bar weren't so low that tvs from 10 years ago cant already jump it
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 15:11 |
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WE AS CONTENT MAKERS SHOULD GO ON STRIKE nobody can film a chrome anyhting on a car, or shoot into the sun until they meet our MINIMUM NIT DEMANDS
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 15:12 |
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PAGANCOWS NIT MANIFESTO (paganomics): stop making bullshit display makers brightness not dollars sieze the means of encoding
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 15:13 |
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then make all your stuff encoded HDR 2,000 nits and master 90% of your brightness values above 1,000 so people only see mostly white when watching the TV because lol herp derp hdr 10 is a thing
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 15:14 |
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WE WILL NOT SLEEP UNTIL THE AUDIENCE CAN WATCH A REAL HDR MOVIE OR ADVERTISMENT THE WAY IT WAS MEANT TO BE DISPLAYED WITH CHROME HIGHLIGHTS OVER 1K NITS
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 15:15 |
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and make sports ball unwatchable unless you have 120hz displays so we need to figure out how to coke out all the players and hgh them into super fast beasts where the plays are unwatchable becuase they move SO FAST ARE YOU WITH ME????
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 15:16 |
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on the topic of vesa, is there any place to see an open spec/implementation of dsc (as implemented in hdmi)? got to be a bit nudge-nudge about it i figure, but surely an actually accurate implementation is on a github somewhere anyway. got a bit curious about the specifics on the more lossy parts of the compression, but not curious enough to pay vesa for the spec
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 17:00 |
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:on the topic of vesa, is there any place to see an open spec/implementation of dsc (as implemented in hdmi)? got to be a bit nudge-nudge about it i figure, but surely an actually accurate implementation is on a github somewhere anyway. got a bit curious about the specifics on the more lossy parts of the compression, but not curious enough to pay vesa for the spec Yo idk about the specifics of your question, but this is where I would start. https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 17:25 |
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pagancow posted:WE WILL NOT SLEEP UNTIL THE AUDIENCE CAN WATCH A REAL HDR MOVIE OR ADVERTISMENT THE WAY IT WAS MEANT TO BE DISPLAYED WITH CHROME HIGHLIGHTS OVER 1K NITS man, I do _not_ want car dealerships making super bright hdr ads.
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 17:39 |
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akadajet posted:man, I do _not_ want car dealerships making super bright hdr ads. WACKY WAVING INFLATABLE 8K DOLBY VISION MAN
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 17:46 |
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lol gently caress we're going to have to start turning on both audio AND brightness normalization because shitheads will abuse this to all hell
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 19:49 |
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:lol gently caress we're going to have to start turning on both audio AND brightness normalization because shitheads will abuse this to all hell Big Mike Naughton's got some brand new F150 Super Duty's in stock and boy he's gonna show 'em to you in all their glory.
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# ? Dec 13, 2017 21:31 |
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i take amazing 4k video in hevc with my iphone x
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 02:13 |
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Mad Wack posted:i take amazing 4k video in hevc with my iphone x not HDR PQ gamma get out
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 03:26 |
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pagancow posted:not HDR PQ gamma get out yeah but nobody important cares about that
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 04:50 |
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TVs seem like a world of hurt right now either spend $7,000 on a sony lcd w/ uneven blacks, or get an oled with lousy brightness
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 05:29 |
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pagancow posted:who is going to care about the hour long samsung washer ad IF YOU CANT EVEN SEE IT IN REAL 10 BITS? lol
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 06:10 |
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Showing results for exploding samsung washer Search instead for exploding samsrung washer
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 06:15 |
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i just got a gaming monitor
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 06:27 |
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i will not be satisfied until everything looks like this i mean vesa probably is okay with that being hdr
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 08:37 |
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i love "hdr photos", everything looks so ~*dramatic*~
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 08:39 |
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mr. cow does it bother you that The Best TVs are OLEDs with low peak brightness?
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 09:14 |
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DuckConference posted:mr. cow does it bother you that The Best TVs are OLEDs with low peak brightness? psshhhh please https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1202266-REG/canon_6902b002_dp_v3010_30_4k_hd_3g_sdi.html
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 14:48 |
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come back when you've graded a film
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 14:49 |
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Wheany posted:i love "hdr photos", everything looks so ~*dramatic*~ "HDR photography" is actually tone mapped SDR into a gamma 2.2 container meaning you cant do linear transform functions without some serious banding in your crunched highlight and shadow areas. "HDR" is a perceptual encoding of images that can contain up to 15 stops dynamic range and 10,000 nits brightness (pq gamma) and still need a gamma linear form of media to be mastered from but is wayyyyyy better
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 14:51 |
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dont be dumb, get a real monitor, shoot raw media when possible, and be ready to re-master all your stuff as water cooled displays become affordable or ur doing post on the next star wars film
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 14:52 |
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duh.
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 14:52 |
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theory:pagancow posted:"HDR" is a perceptual encoding of images that can contain up to 15 stops dynamic range and 10,000 nits brightness (pq gamma) and still need a gamma linear form of media to be mastered from but is wayyyyyy better practice: tvs will have internal circuitry that automatically makes everything look like this: you can't disable it
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 14:59 |
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nope.avi they will put properly calibrated rec709 TVs next to 1000 nit displays in best buy and people will go "yeah that one looks way better and looks like it has more resolution" people like bright and sharp things and brightness on a contrasty image gives the appearance of more resolution
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 15:04 |
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pagancow posted:properly calibrated that means dragging the saturation slider to 200%, correct?
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 15:17 |
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Wheany posted:theory: I posted this in the last thread, but Disney tried this and it looked like rear end. The trend has kind of died out in the photography world too thank God. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt4DW8bX_CU&hd=1
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 16:22 |
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# ? May 15, 2024 19:35 |
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that aside though there are going to be some awesome surreal art films in hdr in time as well
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# ? Dec 14, 2017 16:31 |