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Al Borland Corp. posted:I also plan to go on a self reflecting journey guided by three spirits on Christmas Eve Your taxes go to subsidize the Yahoo and Youtube comments sections; the SA Forums denizens must go there!
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That Italian Guy posted:I've just realized that after NN gets killed, KM posting gifs is going to cause people to get even angrier because of bandwidth throttling 
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Ajit Pai: "Similar to the vampires in the Twilight series, for many of us in the commission Twilight Towers has seemed like an issue that simply would never die."
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Ague Proof posted:Ajit Pai: "Similar to the vampires in the Twilight series, for many of us in the commission Twilight Towers has seemed like an issue that simply would never die." Couldn't Trump just tell him to lay off the Net Neutrality thing and the internet would be saved?
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Katt posted:Couldn't Trump just tell him to lay off the Net Neutrality thing and the internet would be saved? I mean, sure, but couldn't Trump's head also sprout legs and run away from his body?
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Trump wants Net Neutrality repealed, he ran on it, and that's why Pai was appointed. Pai is doing his job. Get rid of him and a million others can take his place and do the exact same thing.
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scuz posted:I mean, sure, but couldn't Trump's head also sprout legs and run away from his body? Probably? It'd explain a lot.
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jimshua posted:petition to rename this the Roy Moore Bridge Maybe if he jumps off of it.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:I also plan to go on a self reflecting journey guided by three spirits on Christmas Eve Ghosts of gin, bourbon, and vodka
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Lol "The restore internet freedom act" Get cancer and die Ajit
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Sorus posted:Probably? It'd explain a lot. His hair alien will end up saving us all
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Trump subreddits are spoiling Star Wars so wait until you see the movie before you go on any schadenfreude trips
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Alter Ego posted:Yet another argument for randomizing the order every four years. Iowa and New Hampshire hold WAY too much power in the nomination process. Or just having all the primaries on the same day.
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Katt posted:Couldn't Trump just tell him to lay off the Net Neutrality thing and the internet would be saved? lol you're talking about the guy who's enshrined "regulatory capture" as his guiding principle of governance
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Blitz7x posted:Trump subreddits are spoiling Star Wars so wait until you see the movie before you go on any schadenfreude trips So Trump reddit == fyad from a decade ago Gotcha Remember when renamed the subforum to "FYAD: Snape kills dumbledore"?
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scuz posted:I mean, sure, but couldn't Trump's head also sprout legs and run away from his body? It would probably use a miniature golf cart
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Today's exclusive on WaPo is excellent.
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The Glumslinger posted:Ghosts of gin, bourbon, and vodka Vodka, bourbon, and scotch
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The Glumslinger posted:So Trump reddit == fyad from a decade ago Both trace at least some of their origin to 'too edgy trolling' sooooo....
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Brony Car posted:Do you think that had a lot to do with how they are teaching in schools on how economies work? I feel like Clinton was basically following what most professors and thinkers of his generation have been teaching. People trying to figure out why stagflation occurred led to the canonization of Milton Friedman and other people from the "Chicago School of Economics." They rejected a lot of Keynesian thought and eroded much of the thinking that supported the establishment of welfare states. Big Economist derail/effort post ahead. Note that I identify as a Keynesian and all my discussion below is based on my recollection of my Economic History of Thought class which was taught by an honest-to-god Marxist economist. Fun aside, if you ever have a chance to do Marxian analysis it's quite neat as it bases the price of goods not off the trade price, as in every other system, but instead off of the cost to make it. This is known as Labor Theory of Value and it has some really interesting implications which are beyond a quick post in the Trump thread. More info on Labor Theory of Value: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_theory_of_value Anyway, on to me ranting about the Chicago school. The most frustrating thing about the Chicago school folks is that they misunderstand what their founder was originally saying. Milton Friedman was right about the cause of stagflation except everyone misses what he actually was saying. Freidman originally proposed that there is an inverse relationship between inflation and unemployment. He argued that it was possible to alter this "natural rate of unemployment" if you lean too heavily on fiscal policy in an attempt to keep unemployment and inflation very low. As this sort of intervention was fairly new there wasn't really any empirical evidence to support it, but then stagflation happened, showing that his theory this inverse relationship, what is now called NAIRU (Non-accelerating Inflation Rate of Unemployment), was correct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAIRU Here's a graph that explains how NAIRU works:  Basically, the government/Federal Reserve can move up and down as they please on the Short Run Phillips Curve depicted above (moving from B to A). However, if they move unemployment lower than what the natural rate specifies the natural rate will shift and you'll have a higher rate of inflation for a given level of unemployment (moving from A to C). Thus, governments employing monetary policy should keep NAIRU in mind and not try and target 0% (or other extremely low) unemployment targets. Sounds like a great idea, and it's backed up by data! Unfortunately things were taken too far. The Chicago school economists took this and argued that any intervention would cause NAIRU to shift outward. These became the inflation hawks that were so prominent during the Euro Crisis. Any attempt to reduce unemployment by use of monetary policy would inevitably cause an increase in inflation for a given level of unemployment. This isn't seen in empirical study and as a result it throws a lot of their policy proposals into a skeptical light. I will absolutely agree with them that if you try to maintain 0% (or other extremely low levels) unemployment you are going to have some serious problems, but there's no evidence that any sort of Keynesian stimulus in an economic downturn will cause NAIRU to shift. The 2008 crisis is an excellent example disproving the cries and alarm of anti-interventionist Chicago School thinkers. If they were right, the combination of direct fiscal stimulus in 2009 and rates lower than we've ever seen before should've caused NAIRU to shift and produced a truly historic amount of inflation. But we didn't see that. Instead we saw extremely low inflation with some nations actually flirting with deflation, aka the worst thing for an economy. It's the empirical results that bind me to the Keynesians. Well that and my thesis advisor was a Keynesian and we read every paper and book Krugman wrote and they make a much better case than anything I read by Freidman or others. On a similar note, the reason most mainstream economists hate Austrians is because they don't understand what their only real contribution to the social science was. Well that, and them not believing in empirical data. One of their school members (can't recall whom) wrote a paper that argued from an efficiency standpoint a command economy can never match the market efficiency of a free market economy from a purely mathematical angle. This was the first paper that actually proved this from a mathematical standpoint, which was impressive and interesting but ultimately had no real policy implications except "don't be a command economy". Additionally, the notion of externalities (unstated costs/benefits from economic activity) was not well-known at the time and were not considered, only pure efficiency. It is still an open question if completely free markets are superior in efficiency if you are optimizing for other conditions as well (i.e. minimization of negative externalities, minimizing GINI coefficients, etc.) Of course the Austrians then took that and ran with it to the absurd conclusion that any government intervention in anything would lead to a re-introduction of serfdom and other bits of nonsense. And when pressed for results they argued their praxology (arguments from first principles and logic)  was so superior they didn't need to use math or data to prove anything. Except their arguments all stem from flawed first premises and assumptions, making their conclusions garbage. They fell victim to the old "garbage in, garbage out" problem in economic analysis but instead of fixing the garbage they doubled down on it. In fact, all of economics suffers from the initial premise and assumption problem. It's why the field is moving more and more towards experimental results to inform policy making. No need to make sure you have realistic assumptions when you remove all assumptions and instead base your conclusions on truly scientific experiments.Wow. That was longer than I thought it'd be. I hope people actually read this/enjoyed the knowledge sharing. tl;dr: Economics is really dependent on your assumptions and it has a huge problem with people thinking one set of solutions are universally applicable when they are not.
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The Glumslinger posted:Ghosts of gin, bourbon, and vodka https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lud3bgEJeTg
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Not sure if this has been posted yet but lol https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/941258105572200448 Butt stuff is the downfall of civilization
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theflyingorc posted:Nobody was actually upset about the red cups. It was a speculative article that caused everyone, and I mean everyone, to dunk on dumb people who didn't exist, except for one "pastor" who just used it to get the negative attention. I managed to stand in line right behind one of those thirty then, because he sure was ranting when those red cups appeared that nobody was allowed to say "Christmas" anymore (despite the giant sign next to him that said "Christmas Blend Now Available"). Some people take their cues from these things. Red cups at Christmastime stand for socialism, and the X in Xmas is crossing out Christ, and there isn't any way you can tell them different.
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Saxophone posted:That dickhole is about to piss off the entirety of the internet. He was reportedly freaked out a month or two ago by how negative the response was to him killing off NN. I doubt he even knows the hell he's about to unleash on himself when every creeper, stalker, doxxer, etc. comes out of the woodwork to collectively make his life as hellish as possible. A few pages back but this forever. 
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The Glumslinger posted:So Trump reddit == fyad from a decade ago I mean FYAD was renamed Han Solo Dies before Force Awakens even came out
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KidDynamite posted:This dissent speech is very good. Commissioner Clyburn is a hero haveblue posted:Are there any practical consequences to his refusal to concede? I don't think so. I think it just means that they will have to do all of the procedures for certification instead of saying "yup, the other guy quit"
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scuz posted:I mean, sure, but couldn't Trump's head also sprout legs and run away from his body? 
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Not sure if this has been posted yet but lol No butt stuff! No, butt stuff!
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haveblue posted:Are there any practical consequences to his refusal to concede? Jones will not be the official winner of the election until the results are certified by the 'bama Secretary of State.
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haveblue posted:Are there any practical consequences to his refusal to concede? No. The loser of an election conceding is a courtesy, not an official part of the process.
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CyberPingu posted:I mean FYAD was renamed Han Solo Dies before Force Awakens even came out
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CyberPingu posted:I mean FYAD was renamed Han Solo Dies before Force Awakens even came out And also the GoT spoiler Tyrion Lannister shoots his father Tywin dead on the toilet, which I thought was fake at first but then I saw that episode and welp
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Spun Dog posted:Maybe if he jumps off of it. Careful now, you might get perma-banned for posts like this.
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haveblue posted:Are there any practical consequences to his refusal to concede? No, just looks like a sore loser.
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haveblue posted:Are there any practical consequences to his refusal to concede? Not really. Concession by the other candidate isn’t a requirement for the winner to hold office so Moore can feel free to scream “I’m not owned!” as much as he wants. It won’t change anything.
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Slugworth posted:There was a GoT spoiler fyad title too. A long tradition. Going way back to Snape Kills Dumbledore, which I may have been responsible for.
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