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PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

Do you like our owl?



Ultra Carp

Commoners posted:

5 MONTHS TO OUT OF IRR FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

(I don't think anyone will care if they try to call you up and you ignore them)

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M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon

PneumonicBook posted:

(I don't think anyone will care if they try to call you up and you ignore them)

I lust to be arrested while protesting the new draft

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

Do you like our owl?



Ultra Carp

M_Gargantua posted:

I lust to be arrested while protesting the new draft

Lmao no one's going to arrest you.

However, I'm certainly no Leonard J Crabs.

Thronde
Aug 4, 2012

Fun Shoe

LingcodKilla posted:

So you gotta wear dark blue tee shirts with the guacamole? Or do you mean something else by frogskin?

Nah, be the Navadmin we just would be allowed to wear Frog shirts under our armor like we have been for years. We'd have to stay in the type 3 blouse.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


The Bitcoin Chief is not teaching the class, there’s a CWO IT teaching it and he’s good. The chief is just chatting during our breaks in the hallway. I got nothing against him.

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

Do you like our owl?



Ultra Carp

LingcodKilla posted:

I got nothing against him.

Hmm... sounds like you need to meet more chiefs...

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


PneumonicBook posted:

Hmm... sounds like you need to meet more chiefs...

:colbert:

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
I remember back in 2009, some group of smart IT people wrote a training thing on common online scams and it got sent around as mandatory training for everyone.

Our Chief read the PowerPoint full of good advice to the division, and added commentary throughout it that undermined any value that it offered.

I remember him spending about 10 minutes talking about how he'd send us to mast if he caught anyone using PayPal because he was under the impression that it was a Payday loan service.

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

Do you like our owl?



Ultra Carp

hmm...

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

I remember back in 2009, some group of smart IT people wrote a training thing on common online scams and it got sent around as mandatory training for everyone.

Our Chief read the PowerPoint full of good advice to the division, and added commentary throughout it that undermined any value that it offered.

I remember him spending about 10 minutes talking about how he'd send us to mast if he caught anyone using PayPal because he was under the impression that it was a Payday loan service.

Vindicated.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


#NotAll:chiefsay:

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
:chiefsay: SHIPMATE! HAVE YOU HEARD THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT BIT COINS?? :chiefsay:

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


ded posted:

:chiefsay: SHIPMATE! HAVE YOU HEARD THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT BIT COINS?? :chiefsay:

Chief I don’t intend to buy any drugs or kiddy porn.


He didn’t really appreciate that.

MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

What do all the “shot on deck” calls mean in that anchor video, and what happened there?

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

MrMojok posted:

What do all the “shot on deck” calls mean in that anchor video, and what happened there?

Anchor chains are measured off in 90 foot lengths called shots, so it's marking off how much of the chain has been let out. Each shot has a specially marked link connecting it to the next so you can tell what shot you currently have paying out.

In that video that whatever brake mechanism is supposed to regulate the release of the chain failed, and it let it all out at once. Once it all runs out (with a shitload of momentum built up), it rips out from the point where it's attached to the ship (known as the bitter end, which is the origin of that idiom) and the entire chain and anchor gets dumped into the briny deep.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



MrMojok posted:

What do all the “shot on deck” calls mean in that anchor video, and what happened there?

shots of anchor chain, which are loaded onto the ship and then attached to each other with a detachable link, which can be removed to allow the chain to be removed in sections. The "#'d shot on deck" calls is to alert everyone in the foc'sle which shot of anchor chain is on the deck of the foc'sle.

Here's a facebook quote which basically lays down how the shots are painted on a USN ship.

"LHD class ships have two 40,000 lbs Standard Navy Stockless anchors. These anchors are attached to the ship via the chain. BHR has 13 shots of anchor chain that weighs about 10,000lbs per shot. A shot of anchor chain is measured either in fathoms or feet. Each shot is 15 fathoms or 90 feet long, which for all you mathematical types equals six feet per fathom.

The 13 shots of anchor chain are linked by a special link called a detachable link. These detachable links can be removed whenever a shot of chain needs to be separated. The individual shots of chain are identified by color coded detachable links: red, white and blue. A red detachable link with a painted white link of anchor chain on both sides identifies the 1st shot of anchor chain. After 90 feet of chain it is followed by a white detachable link with two white links on both sides; this identifies the 2nd shot. Another 90 feet of chain is connected with a blue detachable link with three white links on both sides. For the fourth shot of anchor chain we will see a red link with four white links on both sides. See the pattern? This red, white and blue pattern continues until we have reached the 12th shot.

This is where the pattern stops because we have reached what is called the warning shot. The entire 90 feet of chain on the 12th shot is painted yellow. This is a visual sign that the ship is coming to the end of the chain. The final shot of anchor chain is painted completely red, also known as the Danger shot. Once we have reached the “Danger” shot we are at the end of our chain.

All anchor chains in the Navy are connected to the ship by an enormous shackle which is attached to a metal structure called a padeye. The padeye is found in the anchor chain locker. Each of the ship’s two anchor chains is stored in the chain lockers. The chain locker is the space the anchor chains stay until it is needed again."

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
I think that's basically how the USCG regs have it.

There's quite a few videos of merchant ships doing this if you want more. Watching the brake light up is usually the best part. Even when everything is going great there's always a huge rust cloud hanging around and I'm glad I don't have to be anywhere near anchors or lines.

It's really only a bad day when you lose the second anchor though.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
We just use red and white for marking shots though. Called them shackles too.

The funny thing is that chain lockers are terrible rust pits, and always end up with mud and water all over. The big cloud is mostly rust and dried out mud. The markings on the last few shots usually turn illegible after a couple of month.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





FrozenVent posted:

We just use red and white for marking shots though. Called them shackles too.

The funny thing is that chain lockers are terrible rust pits, and always end up with mud and water all over. The big cloud is mostly rust and dried out mud. The markings on the last few shots usually turn illegible after a couple of month.

And they're 27 metres not 90 feet you loving heathens

Serjeant Buzfuz
Dec 5, 2009

Slavic Crime Yacht posted:

And they're 27 metres not 90 feet you loving heathens

Uhhh, this is the US navy, not the pansy Metric Navy.

:rolleyes:

Get outta here with your fancy-dancy measurements and words.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Slavic Crime Yacht posted:

And they're 27 metres not 90 feet you loving heathens

It's 15 fathoms, shut the gently caress up and go grease something.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



FrozenVent posted:

It's 15 fathoms, shut the gently caress up and go grease something.

And 15 fathoms is 90 god drat feet. Also the links themselves are a foot long.

The issue with that amphib dropping it's anchor wasn't so much that the brake failed, but rather that impatient warrant kept telling them to take more turns off the brake after it was already released. It was impossible for the brakemen to reverse all the turns they had taken off at that point. Almost all of the fault with what happened that day rests squarely on that boatswain's shoulders.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

FrozenVent posted:

We just use red and white for marking shots though. Called them shackles too.

The funny thing is that chain lockers are terrible rust pits, and always end up with mud and water all over. The big cloud is mostly rust and dried out mud. The markings on the last few shots usually turn illegible after a couple of month.

And apparently chain lockers can generate so much rust that they pull enough oxygen out of the air to suffocate you if you go into a closed chain locker.
http://maritimeaccident.org/library2/the-case-of-the-rusty-assassin/

ManMythLegend
Aug 18, 2003

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

Mr. Nice! posted:

And 15 fathoms is 90 god drat feet. Also the links themselves are a foot long.

The issue with that amphib dropping it's anchor wasn't so much that the brake failed, but rather that impatient warrant kept telling them to take more turns off the brake after it was already released. It was impossible for the brakemen to reverse all the turns they had taken off at that point. Almost all of the fault with what happened that day rests squarely on that boatswain's shoulders.

Not just that. He actually released it enough that band brake unscrewed itself from the mechanism that connects it to the break handwheel. It was impossible to add any tension to the brake at that point

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".

joat mon posted:

And apparently chain lockers can generate so much rust that they pull enough oxygen out of the air to suffocate you if you go into a closed chain locker.
http://maritimeaccident.org/library2/the-case-of-the-rusty-assassin/

This is any confined space and why you ventilate and test atmosphere when entering. Be especially careful if the space is negatively pressurized when you open it. People die all the time to that poo poo.

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

Do you like our owl?



Ultra Carp
Wtf where'd all this deck chat come from???

ManMythLegend
Aug 18, 2003

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

lightpole posted:

This is any confined space and why you ventilate and test atmosphere when entering. Be especially careful if the space is negatively pressurized when you open it. People die all the time to that poo poo.

The rust problem in chain lockers is overblown as there is normally enough natural ventilation through the hauspipe that atmosphere isn't a problem in there.

Now ballast tanks on the other hand...

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

ManMythLegend posted:

The rust problem in chain lockers is overblown as there is normally enough natural ventilation through the hauspipe that atmosphere isn't a problem in there.

Now ballast tanks on the other hand...

In my experience ballast tanks aren’t usually so much of a problem since the air gets replaced in them whenever you empty them. Much more ventilation on them than in a chain locker, too.

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

PneumonicBook posted:

Wtf where'd all this deck chat come from???

Topsiders gonna topside, I guess.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
You guys don't inspect engine void spaces? The deck department usually just calls an engineer to do everything anyways.

Spent our port stay in Cape Town on the bow drying out the windlass and winch controls and tracing wiring after they left the covers off and dryers off in heavy seas getting there. Still bitter.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


MrMojok
Jan 28, 2011

Thanks for all the education on the anchor chain and shots!

So those two sailors in the background on that wheel, they were actually releasing the braking mechanism? Man they were spinning that thing so fast!

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





MrMojok posted:

Thanks for all the education on the anchor chain and shots!

So those two sailors in the background on that wheel, they were actually releasing the braking mechanism? Man they were spinning that thing so fast!

it'll have about a billion to one mechanical advantage which equals lots of turning

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



MrMojok posted:

Thanks for all the education on the anchor chain and shots!

So those two sailors in the background on that wheel, they were actually releasing the braking mechanism? Man they were spinning that thing so fast!

They shouldn’t have taken near as many turns off as they did. Like it does require a number of spins, but only the 4-5 turns they take off at the start. Once the chain starts paying out, the brake is released. Any turns past that are fruitless, and, in this case as MML pointed out, can actually damage the brake mechanism.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
You also don’t want to open it too wide so you can “choke” the chain so it doesn’t take up momentum and run away on you.

The brake is a metal band that wraps around the drum, the wheel just tightens it up. It’s like an oversized hose clamp.

Lurks Morington
Aug 7, 2016

by Smythe
Hey where are the easiest ports to get laid in? If I’m trying to not piss blood and pus? I called Austria but that is a long rear end cruise

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
Asian whores in Asia if you are a nerd asking where to get laid at on the internet.

I agree though, it's gonna take you a long time to get to Austria on a ship for pussy.

Lurks Morington
Aug 7, 2016

by Smythe

lightpole posted:

Asian whores in Asia if you are a nerd asking where to get laid at on the internet.

I agree though, it's gonna take you a long time to get to Austria on a ship for pussy.

Yeah I know about all that poo poo. Where is the pussy good, though? Is there anywhere that just loves to gently caress and suck Americans? 1. Japan 2. Redneck Asia 3.????

Does anyone know any good green card wedding websites?

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
Karachi is nice this time of year and they love Americans there.

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

Lurks Morington posted:

Yeah I know about all that poo poo. Where is the pussy good, though? Is there anywhere that just loves to gently caress and suck Americans? 1. Japan 2. Redneck Asia 3.????

Does anyone know any good green card wedding websites?

Aleppo

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Lurks Morington
Aug 7, 2016

by Smythe

I’ll get a lesbian haircut and press jacket and be drowning in no time

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