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Inescapable Duck posted:Star Wars has never made much fuss about 'cloaking' compared to even Star Trek, where it becomes a stand-in for submarine battles. It seems implied to be more radar jamming than a visual thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcArnepkhv0 Oh god I just realized Dak Helmet predicted Kylo Harlock posted:Luke drinking titty milk is the best scene in this movie hands down. It was good, but to be truly Lucasian it should have been shot much more casually.
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Luke handed the Han's dice thingies to Leia right? Like he physically took them to her somehow?
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and there are SO MANY moments like that rey discovering the nature of the force del toro not giving a gently caress and only being about the money snokes death lukes sendoff Frijolero posted:Luke handed the Han's dice thingies to Leia right? Like he physically took them to her somehow? no they vanish when kylo picks them up, theyre another projection
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This was by far the worst cinematic experience I've ever had. It's not even that this was a "bad" film, just a very mediocre one with no heart. This was a corporate product from start to finish, made solely for mass appeal. Rian Johnson clearly has no idea what makes Star Wars movies work, and has no desire to tell a unique story within the pre-established star wars universe. It is unbelievable how poorly executed this was it almost every aspect. I love A New Hope and Empire, and thought Jedi was disappointing but satisfying. The prequels are absolute trash, Rogue One is boring and unnecessary. and now Disney is 0 for 2 with the new movies. Maybe I just don't like Star Wars as much as I thought.
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lelandjs posted:There is no light side and dark side, per se. The Force manifests itself in different ways based on the emotional motivation of the wielder. If you're pissed off/hateful/angry enough, you can shoot lightning out of your fingers. If you're peaceful/calm/serene enough, you can project your consciousness, even after you've died. "Light side" and "dark side" are false constructs created by Force users to explain the difference in Force powers manifesting. This isn't true though
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b-minus1 posted:Maybe I just don't like Star Wars that seems likely
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The Biggest Jerk posted:I did actually like Rose as a character, as she doesn't quite fit neatly into any archetypes and it'll be interesting if they can do something unique with her She's plucky and upbeat against all odds, didn't her flippy hair tell you this? 
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b-minus1 posted:This was by far the worst cinematic experience I've ever had. It's not even that this was a "bad" film, just a very mediocre one with no heart. This was a corporate product from start to finish, made solely for mass appeal. Rian Johnson clearly has no idea what makes Star Wars movies work, and has no desire to tell a unique story within the pre-established star wars universe. It is unbelievable how poorly executed this was it almost every aspect. Which subreddit is this from?
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garycoleisgod posted:That casino planet has existed for longer than a few days. The slavery and injustice there was there under the Republic. Luke himself said the Empire was the Jedis own fault. His grandpa was a school shooter :sith: This movie is great, all the kids gently caress up and learn from their mistakes. Yoda was right
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lelandjs posted:There is no light side and dark side, per se. The Force manifests itself in different ways based on the emotional motivation of the wielder. If you're pissed off/hateful/angry enough, you can shoot lightning out of your fingers. If you're peaceful/calm/serene enough, you can project your consciousness, even after you've died. "Light side" and "dark side" are false constructs created by Force users to explain the difference in Force powers manifesting. All of Star Wars can be summed up by that one dril tweet. https://twitter.com/dril/status/473265809079693312?lang=en
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Nodoze posted:This isn't true though Sorry, should have started that post with "My interpretation is that..."
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Episode 9 won't mean a drat thing if you don't get Force Ghost Luke taunting Kylo Ren a la Joker in Arkham Knight. you've got Mark Hamill and everything! also the light speed suicide attack was loving baller. there was all the hectic noise of a space battle, Hux yelling to shoot down the ship and then silence. what a moment, I actually gasped in the theater. It probably should have come sooner before all those Resistance people just straight up died Carlosologist fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Dec 15, 2017 |
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Waffles Inc. posted:Who says they've got a bad feeling about something in this one? The audience.
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The kamikaze attack was loving beautiful. The film on the whole had some very pretty shots, aside from the occasional bad CGI and alien titties.
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After sleeping on it, I think another thing that bothers me is that nothing really happened to significantly advance the characters of the new big 4. Rey is a super powerful Jedi but we already knew that was going to happen Poe is good at flying things Finn exists. (when they did his fake out death I found myself just going “you know what? yeah okay”) Kylo is still a bastard (who turned good long enough to have a cool fight scene before immediately slipping back) I’d be happy to be wrong but I really can’t think of any real progression they made and I don’t understand what each character is working towards going into IX. I guess Rey cares about the Jedi a lot since she snuck the books onto the falcon but why? Unrelated but I can’t overstate how much I loving hate Maz. She was pointless in VI and she was not only pointless again here but she launched an even more pointless subplot
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Hazo posted:After sleeping on it, I think another thing that bothers me is that nothing really happened to significantly advance the characters of the new big 4. Rey has a new lease on life and doesn't have to dwell on the past anymore. Poe has realized he can't be an idiot hothead and he has learned valuable leadership skills. Finn is no longer a coward and knows exactly what he's fighting for. Kylo is no longer restrained and has gone full baddie.
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Hazo posted:After sleeping on it, I think another thing that bothers me is that nothing really happened to significantly advance the characters of the new big 4. wow. everything that you just said was wrong Frijolero posted:Rey has a new lease on life and doesn't have to dwell on the past anymore.
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I think the space chase would have been better if there were something they were maneuvering around like at minimum a asteroid field or some other space thingy because to me at least it seemed comical that they were slowly racing each other but for some reason the Imperial Ships could not match their speed? I dunno it was bizarre.
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Frijolero posted:Rey has a new lease on life and doesn't have to dwell on the past anymore.
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after reading Rian Johnson’s script for The Last Jedi, Hamill said, “I at one point had to say to Rian, ‘I pretty much fundamentally disagree with every choice you’ve made for this character. Now, having said that, I have gotten it off my chest, and my job now is to take what you’ve created and do my best to realize your vision.’ ”
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"Amazing, everything you just said was wrong." Is probably the most epic line(s) of this movie.
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Frijolero posted:Rey has a new lease on life and doesn't have to dwell on the past anymore.
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Kylo also never turned against the dark side, he just betrayed Snoke.
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This film wasn’t perfect by a long shot but when I frame my thinking of it around the message of “fight for what you love, don’t fight against those you hate” it feels like a satisfying recalibration of the direction of “heroic” films like this. People keep saying they wish Finn would’ve sacrificed himself in the end rather than have Rose save him, but the entire idea is that, while Finn doing that would be a cool movie moment, it’s an ultimately useless act. The Resistance got away anyways without his sacrifice and they still have one of their “heroes” living to fight another day. Soldier/hero sacrifices are so cliche and backwards thinking that at this point it was just a breath of fresh air to see this film say “No that’s dumb. Wasting lives is dumb.”
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how was Kylo "restrained" in TFA enough to say that he has "gone full baddie" as a defense of his character growth in TLJ? i recall him murdering his father and attempting to murder rey and fn and also working for the first order ...guys he was "full baddie" in TFA Mahoning posted:This film wasn’t perfect by a long shot but when I frame my thinking of it around the message of “fight for what you love, don’t fight against those you hate” it feels like a satisfying recalibration of the direction of “heroic” films like this. this is fully literally what happens in rotj
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Hollismason posted:I think the space chase would have been better if there were something they were maneuvering around like at minimum a asteroid field or some other space thingy because to me at least it seemed comical that they were slowly racing each other but for some reason the Imperial Ships could not match their speed? It was extremely First Draft Placeholdery to me, imo.
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I mean, Kylo has no restraints now because he rejects the past as his motivator (see him getting rid of his fake Vader helmet, killing Snoke, the guy who brought him on). his internal conflict of hmm, should I be good or bad is complete. now his motivation is I'm gonna burn the poo poo to the ground and start over
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KyloWinter posted:after reading Rian Johnson’s script for The Last Jedi, Hamill said, “I at one point had to say to Rian, ‘I pretty much fundamentally disagree with every choice you’ve made for this character. Now, having said that, I have gotten it off my chest, and my job now is to take what you’ve created and do my best to realize your vision.’ ” Yea, at another point he suggested adding some things his kid loved from the EU and Johnson told him to shove it. It's great.
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Mahoning posted:This film wasn’t perfect by a long shot but when I frame my thinking of it around the message of “fight for what you love, don’t fight against those you hate” it feels like a satisfying recalibration of the direction of “heroic” films like this. The movie literally begins by showing how dumb a "hero sacrifice" is.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Kylo also never turned against the dark side, he just betrayed Snoke. He was still internally conflicted in this movie, an example of this is when he refuses to shoot Leia's ship.
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Hollismason posted:I think the space chase would have been better if there were something they were maneuvering around like at minimum a asteroid field or some other space thingy because to me at least it seemed comical that they were slowly racing each other but for some reason the Imperial Ships could not match their speed? Like Laura Dern goes “no I have to stay behind and sacrifice myself to pilot the cruiser” then spends ten minutes staring out the window watching the fleet get murdered before realizing “oh poo poo maybe I should get in the pilot seat and do something”
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It mightve been nice for Finn to say during his suicide rush "i'm not running away any more", even though it was clear, he just has a good voice to deliver that line well imho
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If lightspeed ships are so devastating during a collision why don’t they make a lightspeed engine missile. Don’t even need explosives on it.
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As an enlightened person, I insist on inserting my high standard of morality into everything I write to give the common people a taste of the higher philosophies that they may have missed out on while they were farming or stocking shelves. For example, when I was writing "The Last Jedi", I elegantly included a a story line in which some of the heros travel to Monaco where I explore the topics of slavery, environmental destruction, and the military industrial complex. It's subtle, so as not to alert the viewer that they are now being exposed to the deeper topics, but I'd like to think that some people came away a little more aware of how great my farts smell.
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KyloWinter posted:If lightspeed ships are so devastating during a collision why don’t they make a lightspeed engine missile. Don’t even need explosives on it. Force = Mass x Acceleration
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The Human Crouton posted:As an enlightened person, I insist on inserting my high standard of morality into everything I write to give the common people a taste of the higher philosophies that they may have missed out on while they were farming or stocking shelves. For example, when I was writing "The Last Jedi", I elegantly included a a story line in which some of the heros travel to Monaco where I explore the topics of slavery, environmental destruction, and the military industrial complex. It's subtle, so as not to alert the viewer that they are now being exposed to the deeper topics, but I'd like to think that some people came away a little more aware of how great my farts smell. Hello yes this was also my first time watching a movie or really consuming any fictional story in any medium.
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Waffles Inc. posted:how was Kylo "restrained" in TFA enough to say that he has "gone full baddie" as a defense of his character growth in TLJ? He never tried to kill Rey. He wanted to get with her. And Rey wanted to try and turn him to the light. By the end of the film, Rey (and Leia and Luke) have rejected the idea he can be saved, and since Rey rejected him, Kylo's gonna want her dead. This film erased any thought that Kylo would be redeemed.
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Mahoning posted:This film wasn’t perfect by a long shot but when I frame my thinking of it around the message of “fight for what you love, don’t fight against those you hate” it feels like a satisfying recalibration of the direction of “heroic” films like this. So what about Holdo sacrificing herself?
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The Human Crouton posted:As an enlightened person, I insist on inserting my high standard of morality into everything I write to give the common people a taste of the higher philosophies that they may have missed out on while they were farming or stocking shelves. For example, when I was writing "The Last Jedi", I elegantly included a a story line in which some of the heros travel to Monaco where I explore the topics of slavery, environmental destruction, and the military industrial complex. It's subtle, so as not to alert the viewer that they are now being exposed to the deeper topics, but I'd like to think that some people came away a little more aware of how great my farts smell. Sweet. Now do Star Wars with LBJ and Vietnam.
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