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juggalo baby coffin
Dec 2, 2007

How would the dog wear goggles and even more than that, who makes the goggles?


theyre going to have to make a larger witness box for lesnick

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Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Yep, time to stick a Cryfork in them.

Sabreseven
Feb 27, 2016

So, I watched the CIG leaks thing on pornhub, I'm fully expecting my computer to now be ransomwared or something equally nasty.

I'll have to admit, watching the leaks, well, not my proudest fap, but fap I did.

Rude not to really. :shrug:

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Jobbo_Fett posted:

I (almost) called it years ago



monkeytek
Jun 8, 2010

It wasn't an ELE that wiped out the backer funds. It was Tristan Timothy Taylor.
My biggest confusion at this point is why so many people believe Amazon is going to ride into court and save the day.

Correct me if I'm wrong but unless originally listed or amended to the original complaint Amazon has no standing in this case. It's not like their lawyers are going to charge into court, yell "OBJECTION" and then miraculously save the day.

I guess they can file their own complaint but I see no benefit at all. At best CIG is simply a client using a couple of their services currently and not a very big one at that.

Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015

17th Separate Kryvyi Rih Tank Brigade named after Konstantin Pestushko
Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth sixth some day

monkeytek posted:

My biggest confusion at this point is why so many people believe Amazon is going to ride into court and save the day.

Correct me if I'm wrong but unless originally listed or amended to the original complaint Amazon has no standing in this case. It's not like their lawyers are going to charge into court, yell "OBJECTION" and then miraculously save the day.

I guess they can file their own complaint but I see no benefit at all. At best CIG is simply a client using a couple of their services currently and not a very big one at that.

Because Star Citizen will make them millions upon millions by being a flagship Lumberyard title and also exposure and also and also something about twitch and the millions of millions of viewers they'll get there.

PederP
Nov 20, 2009

Sabreseven posted:

So, I watched the CIG leaks thing on pornhub, I'm fully expecting my computer to now be ransomwared or something equally nasty.

I'll have to admit, watching the leaks, well, not my proudest fap, but fap I did.

Rude not to really. :shrug:

I read a while ago that someone had done a study into where ransomware/malware/nastyware originated, and the various porn sites were almost squeaky clean. The clickbait, content farms and sketchy banner networks were a much bigger source of internet-contracted digital infection.

It's kinda like how everyone is semi-hysterical about hygiene when using a corporate restroom (which has very few bacteria), but happily use shared keyboards that are festering with fascinating diversity and quantity of pathogens. Not to speak of shared bowls of candy or nuts. It's highly likely there will be traces of urine, feces and semen from several individuals. Enjoy the snacks at the next company friday bar ;)

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao

monkeytek posted:

My biggest confusion at this point is why so many people believe Amazon is going to ride into court and save the day.

Correct me if I'm wrong but unless originally listed or amended to the original complaint Amazon has no standing in this case. It's not like their lawyers are going to charge into court, yell "OBJECTION" and then miraculously save the day.

I guess they can file their own complaint but I see no benefit at all. At best CIG is simply a client using a couple of their services currently and not a very big one at that.


They assume Amazon has the same sunk cost mindset they do.

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao

PederP posted:

I read a while ago that someone had done a study into where ransomware/malware/nastyware originated, and the various porn sites were almost squeaky clean. The clickbait, content farms and sketchy banner networks were a much bigger source of internet-contracted digital infection.

It's kinda like how everyone is semi-hysterical about hygiene when using a corporate restroom (which has very few bacteria), but happily use shared keyboards that are festering with fascinating diversity and quantity of pathogens. Not to speak of shared bowls of candy or nuts. It's highly likely there will be traces of urine, feces and semen from several individuals. Enjoy the snacks at the next company friday bar ;)

Religious and anti-religious sites are a good spot to pick up an infection though

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao
Free Tophat!

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

monkeytek posted:

My biggest confusion at this point is why so many people believe Amazon is going to ride into court and save the day.

Correct me if I'm wrong but unless originally listed or amended to the original complaint Amazon has no standing in this case. It's not like their lawyers are going to charge into court, yell "OBJECTION" and then miraculously save the day.

I guess they can file their own complaint but I see no benefit at all. At best CIG is simply a client using a couple of their services currently and not a very big one at that.

You're right.

It's possible for things like amicus curiae briefs to be filed, but they merely say that you have an interest in the case and would like to stick an oar in In this case Amazon has no dog in the fight. It's wishful thinking.

It'll evolve to 'maybe Amazon will step in and buy CiG' at some point, and that *could* happen, but you don't buy at the top of the market.

zcrow
May 6, 2014

Ah.. yeah... um... tup tup tup tup tup.. this is something we'll add down the line
I'm wondering how long it is until a band of spergs dress up as Advocacy officers and demand Crytek go away, in typical cringefest video form.

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

zcrow posted:

I'm wondering how long it is until a band of spergs dress up as Advocacy officers and demand Crytek go away, in typical cringefest video form.

You must have missed the "Signed Affidavit" spergs were filling out, pinky-swearing that CryTek had nothing to do with their backing, it was Chris Roberts and his vision, therefore CIG's money wasn't caused by their working with CryEngine, so they owe CryTek nothing, ergo "Case Dismissed!"

This was an actual, real "signed affidavit" that looked suspiciously like a Reddit post but I'm sure is ironclad in a lawsuit.

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao
https://i.imgur.com/hvss1Kl.gifv

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

PederP posted:

I read a while ago that someone had done a study into where ransomware/malware/nastyware originated, and the various porn sites were almost squeaky clean. The clickbait, content farms and sketchy banner networks were a much bigger source of internet-contracted digital infection.

I started off ensuring delivery of smut, and say what you will, the industry has a vested interest in keeping you cumming back for more. Seriously, our game was tight, it was people downloading hooky videos with dropware in the mkv containers that got it a bad name. That and the whole porn as a vector for malware emails.

Currently the worst stuff out there are leveraged attacks on less scrupulous ad-serving farms, mainly because it's fairly easy to inject droppers via someone else's verified and cracked account.

Hell, we accidentally served out several thousand impressions of malware when someone managed to slip some infected flash out a few years back. Different incident to the time when a bunch of editors were serving their own ads out....

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Thoatse posted:

They assume Amazon has the same sunk cost mindset they do.

I don't think Amazon has sunk a penny into CIG.

Loxbourne
Apr 6, 2011

Tomorrow, doom!
But now, tea.

monkeytek posted:

My biggest confusion at this point is why so many people believe Amazon is going to ride into court and save the day.

Because another tenet of the cult is that CIG is Mighty. Their beliefs tell them CIG will crush all opposition, that Crytek will be annihilated. It's curious to see just how quickly Crytek replaced Derek as the centre of the hatedom.

Since CIG quite visibly isn't crushing all opposition right now, their dreams cast about and attach to any characters that might plausibly be big and powerful. So Ortwin becomes the God of IP Law, Chris must have Jeff Bezos on speed dial, and so forth. Anything that can be bolted into the narrative to provide a way to suggest the backers have massive and unstoppable friends because they're Big Important People.

It's a power fantasy, basically. Their friend can beat up your friend. Your friend looks really big and scary, so think how amazingly big and scary our friend must be.

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

I don't think Amazon has sunk a penny into CIG.

If Amazon has even discussed this, it was a discussion about how to most elegantly wash Chris Roberts' stink off their name.

SpaceCurtisLeMay
Sep 30, 2016

We're at war with Goons. We were attacked by Goons. Do you want to kill Goons, or would you rather have Citizens killed?

Lladre posted:

So Crytek sometime in 2015 or 2016 released their CryEngine for free use.

CiG announced new SQ42 as a standalone game in 2016.

CiG switched the game that they were under contract for to SQ42 from SC since no name was in the contract.
And picked up a free copy of CryEngine to make SC in.

So in effect, this case is doomed before deposition.

That’s not how Contract law works. If CiG never amended their 2013 contract to the new terms then CIG is still bound by the old licensing agreement.

Slow_Moe
Feb 18, 2013

Thoatse posted:

They assume Amazon has the same sunk cost mindset they do.

They probably assume that because CIG continuously use the term "partnership" about their business dealings.

Zzr
Oct 6, 2016

Derek, when your book is available I'll buy it, sign it and send it to you.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

SpaceCurtisLeMay posted:

That’s not how Contract law works. If CiG never amended their 2013 contract to the new terms then CIG is still bound by the old licensing agreement.

CIG probably added a "if you view this page we're not bound to the old agreement" page on their website.

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



https://robertsspaceindustries.com/schedule-report





lol

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

Slow_Moe posted:

They probably assume that because CIG continuously use the term "partnership" about their business dealings.

My wife came home in 2009 saying how the company that she worked for had entered a 'partnership' with a New York investment firm. I told her that they'd just been taken over. They started letting people go after a month or so. 'Partnership' is basically just 'we have an association', and you can usually go assume the worst, or they'd be more clear.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

I don't think Amazon has sunk a penny into CIG.

#metoo. Amazon doesn't play like that. They're really interested in being the guys owning the company store.

Loxbourne posted:

It's a power fantasy, basically. Their friend can beat up your friend. Your friend looks really big and scary, so think how amazingly big and scary our friend must be.

Entirely. I have a similar one about Google rolling out fiber across the US, but at least it's a fantasy based partly in fact.

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Get to work, boys - those drives aren't going to erase themselves.

Strangler 42
Jan 8, 2007

SHAVE IT ALL OFF
ALL OF IT

Slow_Moe posted:

They probably assume that because CIG continuously use the term "partnership" about their business dealings.

My "partnership" with Taco Bell this afternoon will produce more solid results than anything Chris Roberts could ever hack together.

SpaceCurtisLeMay
Sep 30, 2016

We're at war with Goons. We were attacked by Goons. Do you want to kill Goons, or would you rather have Citizens killed?

Hav posted:

You're right.

It's possible for things like amicus curiae briefs to be filed, but they merely say that you have an interest in the case and would like to stick an oar in In this case Amazon has no dog in the fight. It's wishful thinking.

It'll evolve to 'maybe Amazon will step in and buy CiG' at some point, and that *could* happen, but you don't buy at the top of the market.

Unless Amazon has an indemnity clause in LumberYard and decide that this is a threat to their product and want to clarify exactly where CryEngine ends and LumberYard begins to protect current and future clients. Then Amazon might want to get involved.

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

hot balls man no homo posted:

My "partnership" with Taco Bell this afternoon will produce more solid results than anything Chris Roberts could ever hack together.

Lucky. My partnerships with Taco Bell tend to produce liquid results, if not an outright run for the border.

SpaceCurtisLeMay posted:

That’s not how Contract law works. If CiG never amended their 2013 contract to the new terms then CIG is still bound by the old licensing agreement.

Also, this.

Kilmers Elbow
Jun 15, 2012


The Saddest Robot
Apr 17, 2007
The amount of users who have legal binding contracts with Crytek and who have or are planning on switching to Lumberyard without resolving or renegotiating those contracts is probably so small (1) it's not even worth considering defending it on the basis that it will impact future users.

Switching from CryEngine to Lumberyard is just one of the charges Crytek is making, there are other violations of the licensing agreement that they entered.

thatguy
Feb 5, 2003
Go on...

Dark Off
Aug 14, 2015





uhhh is that CIG papers lesnick is shredding?

Foo Diddley
Oct 29, 2011

cat

Dark Off posted:

uhhh is that CIG papers lesnick is shredding?

:thejoke:

The Saddest Robot
Apr 17, 2007
What I'm curious about is this claim that RSI "Bought out the Engine". Did RSI buy the complete engine and rights to it but Crytek is still holding them to the original terms of their GLA? What does RSI think they bought? Why doesn't Crytek think that they just flat out purchased the engine from them? Is RSI just talking out their asses or grossly mistaken about something and they never purchased the engine? (I believe that this is the most likely explanation)

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Dark Off posted:

uhhh is that CIG papers lesnick is shredding?

(psst it's a shop)

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer
Hello CIG drone reading the thread, please convince your bosses to fight this out in court.

There's more funny stuff to come.

Dark Off
Aug 14, 2015




it could have been real. You never know what CIG pulls off next :negative:

Bayonnefrog
Nov 9, 2017

Lladre posted:

So Crytek sometime in 2015 or 2016 released their CryEngine for free use.

CiG announced new SQ42 as a standalone game in 2016.

CiG switched the game that they were under contract for to SQ42 from SC since no name was in the contract.
And picked up a free copy of CryEngine to make SC in.

So in effect, this case is doomed before deposition.

That's it Skadden. Better shut it down now since Lladre said so.

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao


:thunk:

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Foo Diddley
Oct 29, 2011

cat

Bayonnefrog posted:

That's it Skadden. Better shut it down now since Lladre said so.

I bet Skadden's really regretting starting this lawsuit now that people all over the internet have pointed out all these things they didn't think of

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