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How long a warranty does Kia offer these days? Didn't they used to do like 10 years on that poo poo?
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Wistful of Dollars posted:How long a warranty does Kia offer these days? Didn't they used to do like 10 years on that poo poo? Americans get 7 years. Canadians get 5 years and 100,000km.
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Dec 15, 2017 15:35
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Kia is 10 years / 100,000 miles It's not transferable to the next owner tho.
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Dec 15, 2017 15:39
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It is if you buy a CPO, we just bought a 2016 Sedona in March.
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Dec 15, 2017 16:24
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Its 5yr/60k mi for the basic limited warranty and 10yr/100k mi for the powertrain warranty. I would say drive both and decide for yourself. GT2 Stingers should be hitting dealer lots any day now depending on your location.
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Dec 15, 2017 17:23
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Guinness posted:10 year old Civic you could still probably turn around and sell for $6-8k because Honda. No way you're getting $6-8k for a ten year old base model Civic. We're looking at selling a 2008 EX soon, they seem to be going for around $4k CAD. Although I guess maybe that'll be $6k in another 10 years.
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Dec 15, 2017 18:07
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Kraftwerk posted:So if you could only afford to buy it outright once(unable to buy something that price again in 4 years) and then aim to own it a long time you’d advise the stinger over the S5? The S5 has better tech as long as you spec Virtual Cockpit and the adaptive cruise/lane keeping. And it’s got a better interior. But it’s not even close to as engaging a drive as the Kia. For a left-field sportback idea, there’s the new Buick Regal GS, too.
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Dec 15, 2017 18:44
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prom candy posted:No way you're getting $6-8k for a ten year old base model Civic. We're looking at selling a 2008 EX soon, they seem to be going for around $4k CAD. Although I guess maybe that'll be $6k in another 10 years. Maybe used cars in Canada are different, but one peek at my local craigslist shows a whole lot of plain 2007-2008 Civics in varying conditions listed in the $6-8k USD range by private parties. Dealers can be as much as $10k (  ). Granted those are asking prices not selling prices, but still. To get sub-5k you've got to be looking at real beaters or unusually high mileage cars.The Honda tax is real. Guinness fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Dec 15, 2017 |
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Dec 15, 2017 18:49
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Think of it less as a tax and more as a membership fee.
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Dec 15, 2017 21:12
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Leasing electric cars is still the way to go, it seems - at least in California it is.
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Dec 15, 2017 23:34
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Closest to zero depreciation I can think of is picking up a ~3 yr old Toyota 4Runner/Land Cruiser/Tacoma, Jeep Wrangler, or Porsche 911 and selling before you hit 10 yrs old or 100k miles, whichever comes first. Anything else that even comes close that isn't 10-20+ years old? The Corvette, Lotus Evora, or 6-cylinder Jaguar F-type all seem pretty stable after their initial hit as well. Interestingly, a new-ish Mercedes E-class wagon will lose ~$20K of value in absolute dollars over a few years regardless of whether it's a E350 or E63, which is something to think about (which Doug DeMuro seems to have figured out). EnergizerFellow fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Dec 16, 2017 |
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Dec 15, 2017 23:57
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Guinness posted:Maybe used cars in Canada are different, but one peek at my local craigslist shows a whole lot of plain 2007-2008 Civics in varying conditions listed in the $6-8k USD range by private parties. Dealers can be as much as $10k ( Where do you live? Do cars rust there? My dad's got an 06 Civic with like 160,000km on it. Runs perfect, but has a big rust hole in the door. Maybe that's the difference?
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Dec 16, 2017 00:04
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prom candy posted:Where do you live? Do cars rust there? My dad's got an 06 Civic with like 160,000km on it. Runs perfect, but has a big rust hole in the door. Maybe that's the difference? The Honda tax seems to have a strong inverse correlation between how much snow an area gets. So much so you could probably made decent money trying to find low-miles ones that managed to not rust in the land of salted roads and ship them off to CA, TX, AZ, etc.
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Dec 16, 2017 00:39
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EnergizerFellow posted:Closest to zero depreciation I can think of is picking up a ~3 yr old Toyota 4Runner/Land Cruiser/Tacoma, Jeep Wrangler, or Porsche 911 and selling before you hit 10 yrs old or 100k miles, whichever comes first. Anything else that even comes close that isn't 10-20+ years old? It's a little outside your year range but early lotus elises have been 30k used since they came out. They're still 30k, whether they have 30 or 90 thousand miles.
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Dec 16, 2017 00:45
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Network42 posted:It's a little outside your year range but early lotus elises have been 30k used since they came out. They're still 30k, whether they have 30 or 90 thousand miles. Pretty much. You're looking at the same situation on the 1st-gen Lotus Evora, which is ~$45K regardless of miles, model year, or options. EnergizerFellow fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Dec 16, 2017 |
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Dec 16, 2017 01:09
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fyallm posted:So with all this lease talk I am confused. I always thought it was a sucker move but it seems like more and more people are doing that. When is it better to leave vs buy?
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Dec 16, 2017 01:23
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skipdogg posted:Leasing makes sense in certain situations. I lease my wife's car and it works out well for us. The Escalade was 10% of GM's global profit last year
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Dec 16, 2017 14:32
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New silverado, i think it looks pretty good. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/2019-chevrolet-silverado-1500-photos-and-info-news The bed is still made of Fuckin Submarines™ This model they're showing off has a factory 2 inch lift. The stubby front end almost reminds me of the LCF 
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Dec 17, 2017 00:22
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That grill is hideous.
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Dec 17, 2017 00:25
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Well I certainly don't regret buying my 2017 instead of waiting, based on looks. Hopefully they will put an upgraded drivetrain in it. An upgrade version of the 6.2L that can get close or better power than the 3.5 HO EcoBoost with the 10 speed transmission would rule. Also, I still think they should bring back the Silverado SS and put the ZL1/Z06 engine in it. heated game moment fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Dec 17, 2017 |
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Dec 17, 2017 00:31
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cool startup feel posted:Well I certainly don't regret buying my 2017 instead of waiting. They have to. Their advertising for the past 5 years has relied on the fact that they have the quote:Also, I still think they should bring back the Silverado SS and put the ZL1/Z06 engine in it. Hellcat ram vs Silverado ZL1 vs F-150 GT500 would be pretty awesome.
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Dec 17, 2017 00:38
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Powershift posted:They have to. Their advertising for the past 5 years has relied on the fact that they have the JD Power Initial Fuel Economy Award* *For vehicles driven economy mode with everything turned off for the first 10 miles when your grandma borrows it
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Dec 17, 2017 00:48
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Powershift posted:
This reminded me that Toyota still sells their factory TRD supercharger for the Tundra that upgrades it to 504 hp and 550 lb-ft.
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Dec 17, 2017 01:27
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cool startup feel posted:This reminded me that Toyota still sells their factory TRD supercharger for the Tundra that upgrades it to 504 hp and 550 lb-ft. and THAT reminds me that Toyota still makes the Tundra.
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Dec 17, 2017 01:33
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:I assume they are focusing on power delivery and not just peak output. You probably don't want a peaky high-revving turbo in a high-volume not-minivan Yeah exactly, they'll obviously have a different tune / turbo for the hot models. I was more curious of the potential of this new engine.
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Dec 17, 2017 02:18
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cool startup feel posted:This reminded me that Toyota still sells their factory TRD supercharger for the Tundra that upgrades it to 504 hp and 550 lb-ft. That kit apply to the Land Cruiser as well? If so, I'm interested.
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Dec 17, 2017 02:56
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Powershift posted:New silverado, i think it looks pretty good. I think it looks too much like an overgrown Colorado. The square wheel wells actually gave it character. If they want to make it look more like an F-150 so it'd sell better, I'd just buy a F-150.
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Dec 18, 2017 07:19
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I'm the indent in the front and rear lights that would've been the perfect place to run a crease in the body through but nah why make a coherent design decision like that when we can have a line from the top of the headlight which for some reason swoops down into the door panel and then a line from the rear light that just kinda stops after a while?
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Dec 18, 2017 11:06
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Why would I buy that over an F-150? C'mon GM
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Dec 18, 2017 18:41
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EnergizerFellow posted:That kit apply to the Land Cruiser as well? If so, I'm interested. Apparently it does fit the LC/LX 570 Domestic Amuse posted:I think it looks too much like an overgrown Colorado. The square wheel wells actually gave it character. It does remind me of a Colorado, think it’s the swoopy window frames.
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Dec 18, 2017 19:18
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Wheeee posted:Why would I buy that over an F-150? The same reason you already were buying Chevy product: cash on the hood and/or your fleet manager is getting kickbacks.
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Dec 18, 2017 19:43
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is GM going to address whatever is causing 800 pages of "vibration" issues in 2015+ trucks in threads like this?? http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topic/153186-shake-or-vibration-issues/?page=779
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cool startup feel posted:Apparently it does fit the LC/LX 570 It's absolutely that back corner on the side window. If you just cover it with your finger it changes the look of the truck. Props to them for matching circles with circles again on the wheel wells, but that front end is a mess.
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Dec 18, 2017 19:56
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This is the first full-size Chevrolet truck to have round wheel openings since 1973.
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Powershift posted:New silverado, i think it looks pretty good. Hood looks like its taller then the bed.
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cool startup feel posted:Apparently it does fit the LC/LX 570 Lx570 and the top range v8 cruiser share an engine (5.7L 3ur fe) with the tundra. From what I remember the engine bays are about the same for the lexus and the cruiser. Fake e: oh yeah the supercharger is a lexus option in the Middle East.
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Dec 19, 2017 08:32
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Keyser_Soze posted:is GM going to address whatever is causing 800 pages of "vibration" issues in 2015+ trucks in threads like this?? Watching videos in the thread it just seems like a normal boxed frame truck with unloaded bed.
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Dec 19, 2017 23:58
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Apparently you can't configure a Stinger with all season tires without buying the $2000 package of annoying driver aids. Thats a super strange limitation.
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Dec 21, 2017 03:55
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Laranzu posted:Apparently you can't configure a Stinger with all season tires without buying the $2000 package of annoying driver aids. Thats a super strange limitation. I dunno, I get the reasoning. All season tires are usually poo poo compared to having a set of dedicated winter/summer tires, so you'd probably need the driver aids. Though I come from a tire culture where all seasons are frowned upon, and actively discouraged.. so I'm biased.
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More car companies should discourage all seasons on performance cars anyways. It's not like you can't afford a set of summer and winter on a car like that and why would you buy a fast car and put poo poo tires on it?
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