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Aphrodite posted:Today has shown a lot of people don’t know what monopoly means. I feel like the people who want to quickly write about how disgusting the deal is are twenty somethings going through their communist “hurrr the corporations are evilll” phase
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Autism Sneaks posted:The former Nick has two eyes, the latter Nick has two eyes and the Pulp Fiction afro They need to make it like Hot Tub Time Machine. Where Nick is constantly put in peril of losing an eye, with some time travellers* being like "Oh poo poo, this is where Nick Fury loses an eye!" And he keeps surviving. Until he ends up losing the use of his eye when an errant rubber band from the end of film report flies off and hits him in the face. *= Naturally Time Traveller number 1 will be played by Stone Cold Steve Austin. The Question IRL fucked around with this message at 10:04 on Dec 15, 2017 |
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Dec 15, 2017 09:59
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Top Gun posted:I feel like the people who want to quickly write about how disgusting the deal is are twenty somethings going through their communist “hurrr the corporations are evilll” phase The corporations pretty much are evil though, and communism is the glorious future, comrade
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Dec 15, 2017 10:05
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Now we can actually see Sam Jackson Fury lose his eye to Wolverine.
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Dec 15, 2017 10:24
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Ok lets hear it, what does the nightmare dystopian Disney monopoly look like? (I think its being slightly over-reacted to).
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Dec 15, 2017 11:20
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kaesarsosei posted:Ok lets hear it, what does the nightmare dystopian Disney monopoly look like? I think that the main argument is that if Disney have all this back catalogue they will be slow to release it on media like DVD's (which was Disney's usual MO.) But with the move to digital libraries that is more a moot point. The other argument I suppose is that Disney will have such a large catalogue of material that they will create their own streaming service as a competitor to Netflix. But they were doing that anyway. And it's funny that monopolies are bad...except for streaming services. Where we want a one stop, shop.
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Dec 15, 2017 12:12
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Monopolies are bad news for competition and I think competition is very important. Of course, this acquisition is no doubt competition-driven; Disney and Fox are big fish in the media pond but they're comparatively small next to some of the big tech and digital companies.
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Dec 15, 2017 12:21
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No consumers want a single monopolising streaming service, we just don't want to have to sign up to 20 different ones to access the content we want to watch.
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Dec 15, 2017 12:32
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Man, this merger sucks. If only for the reason that it's made an already pretty lovely thread even worse. Changing the subject from corporate overlords for a moment, what's the buzz on the animated Spiderman movie? The trailer looked pretty bad rear end. Anyone seen it yet?
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Dec 15, 2017 13:38
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The trailer? Yeah, everyone's seen it. It's pretty great.
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Dec 15, 2017 13:40
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Wheat Loaf posted:Monopolies are bad news for competition and I think competition is very important. Of course, this acquisition is no doubt competition-driven; Disney and Fox are big fish in the media pond but they're comparatively small next to some of the big tech and digital companies.
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Dec 15, 2017 14:11
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FlamingLiberal posted:This merger is a shot across the bow of Netflix, but the thing that confuses me here is that Disney gets Fox’s stake in Hulu but they are also launching their own streaming service in 2019. They've already said that nothing changes there. The Disney service is aimed at families, Hulu will be for the more adults only stuff.
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Dec 15, 2017 14:32
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They said marvel and star wars will be on the Disney service. But then maybe Hulu will come to Canada finally.
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Dec 15, 2017 14:46
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Aphrodite posted:They've already said that nothing changes there. The Disney service is aimed at families, Hulu will be for the more adults only stuff. Hulu is something of an Internet Touchstone, isn't it? 
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Dec 15, 2017 14:49
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kaesarsosei posted:Ok lets hear it, what does the nightmare dystopian Disney monopoly look like? It's really bad for North American cinema, because it removes one big studio to produce movies. Then, there's less diversity in the movie offering. Now that Deadpool exists, there will be more of it--but taking the initial chance on Deadpool, Logan or the horror New Mutants that's coming up? New takes like that are much less likely to happen at Disney. Also, Disney leans pretty hard on theater chains for Star Wars money--now they get to do it with Avatar too. Last month, Disney refused to let the LA Times see Thor Ragnarok with the rest of the press because they had written about their shady business practice with the city of Anaheim. They got publicly shamed into backing off.
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Dec 15, 2017 15:04
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It didn't remove anything because 20th Century Fox was going away regardless. It wasn't a hostile takeover.
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Dec 15, 2017 15:05
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Yeah it's not like Disney took a chance on any of the Marvel films
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Aphrodite posted:It didn't remove anything because 20th Century Fox was going away regardless. It wasn't a hostile takeover. And I would be just as discomfited if Comcast had bought Fox.
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Dec 15, 2017 15:19
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Yannick_B posted:Also, Disney leans pretty hard on theater chains for Star Wars money--now they get to do it with Avatar too.
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Dec 15, 2017 15:28
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yeah those two stories pissed me off because they were clear examples of the company trying to bully people. However, they were doing that before this merger already so it’s not like anything would change with that. Oh for sure, but now, they have even more power and leverage. And they made it all work in their favor! That's the crazy part! Big ol'nerds are actually cheering that a giant company is buying another one. I mean, I'm stoked to see the entire MCU guest-star at Reed and Sue's wedding in an upcoming FF movie, but still!
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Dec 15, 2017 15:45
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It's a concentration of wealth and power that benefits two of the most powerful and dangerous entities in the modern world. The reason no one is laying out why it's bad is that you need to be willfully ignorant to not recognize that on its face and no one has the patience to spoonfeed basic socio-economic concepts to people excited about Wolverine and Darth Vader fighting who cross their arms and ask what the big deal is.
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Dec 15, 2017 16:02
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I mean...I’m going to see the movies, anyways. Bitching about this merger would accomplish precisely nothing except make me an enormous hypocrite.
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Dec 15, 2017 16:13
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Lurdiak posted:It's a concentration of wealth and power that benefits two of the most powerful and dangerous entities in the modern world. The reason no one is laying out why it's bad is that you need to be willfully ignorant to not recognize that on its face and no one has the patience to spoonfeed basic socio-economic concepts to people excited about Wolverine and Darth Vader fighting who cross their arms and ask what the big deal is. Right. It’s like the meme posted earlier. It is a troubling thing but at the same time it also gets us closer to Hank Hill in Kingdom Hearts 3
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Dec 15, 2017 16:35
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Wolverine beats Darth Vader in a walk. Adamantium is %40 cortosis.
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Dec 15, 2017 16:36
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Yannick_B posted:It's really bad for North American cinema, because it removes one big studio to produce movies. Then, there's less diversity in the movie offering. And it seems unfair to me to accuse Disney of not being...what, daring enough?...desperate enough?...to take chances like Deadpool or Logan, considering that Fox owned the X-properties for decades and didn't put out those kinds of hard R movies either until they shat up their own franchise to the point that they pretty much had nothing else to lose. Before then they were putting out the exact same sort of PG-13, generic (by today's standards, of course; back then they were pretty rare) superhero films, some of them decent, some of them goddamn awful. Especially for Deadpool, it's like...I think people forget the perfect storm of everything falling into place exactly the right way for this movie to have been made the way it was. If Ryan Reynolds hadn't pushed so hard for it to happen to the point of literally leaking the CGI screener footage himself in order to drum up interest, I doubt Fox would have been all that pressed to make Deadpool, especially after the loving the character received in Wolverine Origins. And if Green Lantern hadn't flopped, Reynolds wouldn't have been free to push for this part either. To act like Fox was this sort of avant-garde artiste's studio who dared to defy the odds to put out genre-peripheral films like Deadpool and Logan is like...yeah, it's great that they eventually did, but it's still looking back on their treatment of this franchise with pretty rose-tinted glasses.
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Dec 15, 2017 17:12
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Wait, hang on, does this merger mean we can hopefully see the best Spiderman story now? I of course, refer to the marriage of Mole Man and Aunt May.
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Dec 15, 2017 17:21
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bunnyofdoom posted:Wait, hang on, does this merger mean we can hopefully see the best Spiderman story now? The Spider-Man movie rights are with Sony, who are producing a Venom movie and (maybe??) a Black Cat & Silver Sable movie.
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BrianWilly posted:To act like Fox was this sort of avant-garde artiste's studio who dared to defy the odds to put out genre-peripheral films like Deadpool and Logan is like...yeah, it's great that they eventually did, but it's still looking back on their treatment of this franchise with pretty rose-tinted glasses. Well there was fox searchlight i guess that was putting out lower budget indies. We'll see if Disney keeps that around
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JordanKai posted:The Spider-Man movie rights are with Sony, who are producing a Venom movie and (maybe??) a Black Cat & Silver Sable movie. Just put in the spiderman homecoming 2
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bunnyofdoom posted:Wait, hang on, does this merger mean we can hopefully see the best Spiderman story now? Yes but the twist is it will be Hans Moleman.
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Dec 15, 2017 18:35
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Rhyno posted:Yes but the twist is it will be Hans Moleman. How is that any different?
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I bet Thanos will be defeated when he gets a football in the groin.
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Phylodox posted:How is that any different? The tragedy of spelunkers lung won't happen
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bunnyofdoom posted:The tragedy of spelunkers lung won't happen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76oS9pgG5bI
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Phylodox posted:How is that any different? Wheat Loaf posted:I bet Thanos will be defeated when he gets a football in the groin.
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JordanKai posted:The Spider-Man movie rights are with Sony, who are producing a Venom movie and (maybe??) a Black Cat & Silver Sable movie. I'm still surprised they are trying to go through with the Venom movie. I keep waiting for it to be announced as cancelled.
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Jamesman posted:I'm still surprised they are trying to go through with the Venom movie. I keep waiting for it to be announced as cancelled. I feel like you could make a good Venom movie if you handed it off to a weird comedy guy like Taika Waititi or whoever wrote Deadpool, because Venom has that same superficial "Animated Badass Van Art" public appeal to cash in on, without any underlying substance to get in the way.
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Jamesman posted:I'm still surprised they are trying to go through with the Venom movie. I keep waiting for it to be announced as cancelled.
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Schneider Heim posted:Or they could just do Ultimate F4 between that writing abortion and his recent dumbass statements i sincerely hope someone slaps the poo poo out of mark milar 
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Fan4stic was basically them trying to ape Ultimate FF. I'd guess that they're gonna shy as far away from that tone as possible. Alternatively, cast Miles Teller as the Maker 
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