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Inferior
Oct 19, 2012

FoolyCharged posted:

It's incredibly useful in the golems of agammark dlc. Or whatever its called.

do we get a vote at the end of this dungeon or are you just going to default choose not to skip the next dungeon?
No vote, but I might do a bonus video showing off the optional fight.

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Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Inferior posted:



[Dragon Age Spot-The-Head Competition.

I have digitally edited that unfortunate soldier's head out of this image. Draw a circle around where you think it landed. Fabulous prizes to whomever gets closest!]

your photoshop skills are clearly too much for me, but I'm gonna say behind that central pillar. I think you're misdirecting us, like a rogue would do!

mauman
Jul 30, 2014

Whoever's got the biggest whiskers does the talking.
I honestly thought the heads just magically disappeared, cuz I never saw one after a beheading.

Inferior
Oct 19, 2012

PART 102: YOUR QUEEN IS IN THIS CASTLE

Previously posted:

Our heroes have stealthily infiltrated the estate of the Arl of Denerim in order to rescue Queen Anora, who is being held against her will by the dastardly Arl Howe...


[As soon as we enter the mansion in our guard disguises, Erlina shows up again.]



Ah! It took me forever to be rid of those two!

You must be careful now. The servants, they will not look closely at anyone in uniform. All guards are alike to a cook, no? But you should not draw attention to yourself.

Most of the guards are new. They will not know you for a stranger at a glance. It is best you keep your distance from all of them and try to blend in.

Yeah, I'm sure Howe has lots of dwarven lady soldiers on his payroll.

Where's Anora?

She is in a guest room off the main hall.

Andraste guide us.



[We're now free to wander the mansion. If we can keep up the illusion we work here we'll get a nice XP bonus at the end, more than what we'd earn by killing everyone.

It's straightforward to maintain our cover: like Erlina implied, don't talk to or steal poo poo around the soldiers.]





(Laughs)

I bloody love being evil.

It's bleedin' brilliant, innit mate.



[This is the same mansion that Leliana broke into all those updates years ago.

Just like back then, the place is full of murderous goons and stab-happy torturers. Plus ça change.]



Mmm. Elf.



I definitely want to steal this stripy boy.

You can't have him. He's my precious angel.





Is that the main door?

Sure is, rookie. Surprised you didn't know that.

I must have missed that part of the orientation.

How did you even get here?

We climbed in through the window, of course. To fight the criminal mind, you must understand the criminal mind, no?





Warden team, assemble!



The Grey Warden is here, my lady.

Thank the Maker! I would greet you properly, but I'm afraid we've had a setback.

Hurry up, we need to get out of here. Your door appears to be travelling back through time.

Yes, about that...

My "host" was not content with leaving me under heavy guard. He's sealed the door by magic.

Great, now what?



We must get her out of there!

Don't panic, Erlina.

Find the mage who cast the spell. He'll most likely be at Howe's side.

So much for secrecy.

Well, if he didn't know you were here, he soon will.

Fine, I'll be back soon.

Thank you, Warden. My prayers go with you.

Teyrn Howe will probably be in his rooms. They're at the end of the hall, on the left.



[The enemies still aren't on to us. Yet.]



(Giggles) In that case, come here...

[Yes, she is kneeling in front of him. Ooh la la. Anyway, this room is a trap. If you try to interrupt this guard's happy time, everyone in the building turns hostile. As well they should, you monster.]



[At the end of the corridor is this locked door. There's no key, you have to use lockpicking to get in and the skill check is pretty high. But the reward is juuuuust right.]



:swoon:



[There's about ten sovereigns in the cash piles, plus various gems and this impressive shield.]



[Opposite the treasure room is Howe's quarters, but no Howe.]



He just throws all his papers in a pile. This man is clearly evil.



Any clues, Alistair?

It's definitely some variety of gibberish. Perhaps even gobbledygook.



Howe must be hiding in the basement. I wonder if he's got a pool table down there.

I doubt it. The former Arl of Denerim had... unique tastes.

Oh, right. Chains, spikes and hot pokers.

All the ingredients of an excellent weekend.





What? Who goes there?





*CRACK*



*sssssshp*



*rustle rustle*





I thank you for creating such distraction, stranger. I have been waiting days for the opportunity.

Do you think you could--Alistair? Is that you?

Who...? Wait. I do know you. You were at my Joining.

He's one of us. A Warden from Orlais. Jader, I think. Or was it Montsimmard? I'm afraid I don't remember your name.

I'm Riordan, senior Warden of Jader, but born and bred in Highever and glad to be home.

Holy poo poo, am I glad to see you. Whoever you are. What are you doing here?



For the most part, attempting to hold my tongue.

I was sent when we received no word from King Cailan as to the outcome at Ostagar.

The king had invited all the Wardens of Orlais and their support troops to join him, then... nothing.

How large a force did you bring with you?

We had two hundred Wardens and two dozen divisions of cavalry. The first we heard of Loghain‘s edict was when everyone was turned back at the border.

Awwwwwwwwww nuts.

That was when the rumor reached us that Wardens were being blamed for the massacre.

We finally decided it was safest to send someone alone, to learn how best to fight the Blight and this regime simultaneously.



As a native Fereldan, I volunteered to make the crossing.

But the archdemon's nearly here! Will we have no help?

The other Wardens won't risk their strength fighting Ferelden’s civil war. If they spend themselves against Loghain, there is truly no hope.

They recall accounts of the first Blight, how many cities fell. If Ferelden is too foolish to save itself, at least we'll be ready when the archdemon leads its forces further.

That's a really good idea. Unfortunately.

Besides, I hear you haven't been doing badly at raising an army yourself.

:smug:



But perhaps if the edict can be lifted... I will send a message as soon as we are gone from this place.

How did Arl Howe capture you?

With an offer of hospitality and a poisoned chalice. I was fool enough to think Loghain didn't yet know who I was.

Wait. Are these your papers?

Yes. These are my records. The names of the dead I could recognize at Ostagar. What I could find of Duncan's own recruitment records.

Copies of the Joining ritual I rescued from our Denerim vault. Those should never be seen by any outside eyes, but I trust in their encryption.

The Joining ritual? Can you induct other Grey Wardens?



Would that I could, for Ferelden sorely needs them.

But for the Joining to work, the recruit needs not only fresh darkspawn blood, but a drop of blood preserved from an archdemon.

Ferelden's supply should have been in the vault, but it was gone. I can only imagine someone took it out and Loghain either confiscated or destroyed it.

So, when you fight the archdemon make sure you have a syringe handy. We'd all be very grateful.

I'll see what I can to do. Where's Howe?



I saw him go into the dungeons. He may still be there.

I wouldn't be much use to you in my current condition. And, if you'll pardon me, I've a sudden desire to breathe some free air.

I will seek you out later--after I find a good physician.

And good luck... Sister.



I think our odds just went up.

Frankly, I don't think the mangled wreckage of a Warden will be much help.

He snaps necks like a champion though. And don't call me Frankly.





Who goes?

Oh, quit kidding around, you know me.

You think you're clever, do you?

Cleverer than you at least.

Anybody tries to come in here without Howe‘s say so, we get to do what we like with 'em. I think we finally got a bit of entertainment here, lads!



[This fight can be tough! Your characters start piled up in a doorway, there's a surprisingly large number of enemy goons and there's a goo trap right by the door (see the tripwire?) that'll immobilise your party if you're not careful.

Helpfully, everyone instantly changes from their disguises into their regular armor. And no, there's no way past that guard without a fight. The time for diplomacy is over!]



[Fortunately, Zevran's a murder whirlwind.]



Right. Spread out and search the place.



[One room is full of torturers. They are terrible fighters but there sure are a lot of them.]



This guy's not making a great introduction.

You'd be crabby too, if you were in his position.

Fair enough. Up you get, fella.



[This update rated N for Nipples.]

Was this supposed to be a lesson? Did my father think it funny to leave me for so long before sending you?

Who are you?

Then... my father didn't send you?

I am Oswyn, son of Bann Sighard, of the Dragon's Peak Bannorn.

If you aren't one of our soldiers, pray tell me, who should I be thanking for my rescue?

I am Bianca, of the Grey Wardens.



Then I have no question about why you would come, Warden, for it is your men who have suffered the most here.

You have my heartfelt gratitude and, I assume, the gratitude of the entire Dragon's Peak Bannorn.

I love making new friends.

If my father sent no one after me, I can only assume that he does not yet know the true colors of the snakes he has allied with.

That is certainly one explanation.

But if you talk to him, I'm certain he would offer you any reward you might ask.

Why was Arl Howe torturing you?



One soldier returning from Ostagar was my wet nurse's son. We have been friends since birth.

He told me his unit was ordered to tum their backs on Cailan at Ostagar... before the darkspawn overwhelmed him.

The next day, he disappeared. When I went to search for him... I accepted a drink from a stranger and ended up here.

I swear, Loghain will not get away with this.

It is hard to imagine anyone with the power to take Loghain down.

I swear, if there be any forum to speak out against Loghain, my father will be there.

Now, please, I must try to get to him. I... I cannot see the last of this place too soon.



[Oswyn will be useful, eventually]



Why are they so many people down here? I didn't think torture was so labor intensive.

People say a lot of things about torture, but they never mention how good it is for the local economy.





Yoink.



Jailbreak! Jailbreak happening! Everyone pick up your severed limbs and form an orderly queue at the exit.



They said to retreat. The horn sounded and we turned and then the screams... We rode and they screamed and screamed and--



(Screams)

I can't look away.

I have underwear like that. In black. More slimming, I think.

This poor man looks... cold.

The thong was my breaking point. I'm leaving forever now.

Ssh. It's alright.



Mother, can you smell the blood? They said it was only darkspawn, but we ate them too.

They died and we left them. In the swamp. The witch. The witch!

He's obviously mad. I don't think you'll get anything more out of him.

You're free now. Go somewhere safe.

Safe. Is there a safe? Perhaps next door...



[The madman's name is Rexel, and finding him is a quest for the Denerim Chanter's Board. We can't return to this dungeon once we complete it, so if you don't free him now you can never complete that quest.

In the other cell is a distressed elf...]



What month is it? Are you some enemy of Arl Urien's? Please... I feel like I've spent half my life down here.

Arl Urien died months ago.

Dead? Then who's ruling...? His son Vaughan... he struck me down, and I woke up here.

People were so angry. They were thinking of petitioning the king...

The king is dead as well. Loghain rules in his place.

[This is a reference to events in the City Elf origin. This guy is Soris, the City Elf Warden's cousin, and a temporary party member in their origin. We'd get more dialogue with him if we were an elf, but for now all we can do is let him go.]



There have been... many changes since they caught me. I... I need to find out what happened.

I-I need to get home. Or... or flee the city. I...

I thank you for your aid, stranger. I wish I had more than gratitude to offer.

Good luck, kid.





[There's nothing much else to do here apart from the Final Confrontation.]



Well, well. The Grey Warden. I must say I'm surprised Eamon would condone you invading my castle and murdering my men.

Yeah, he's funny like that.



Is he losing faith in the persuasive powers of his Landsmeet?

I'm here for Anora.

(Laughs) The traitorous bitch has you under her thumb? Anora does love games. I'm surprised she'd play with the likes of you.

You should have left when you had the chance, Warden. Slunk off to the Anderfels to hide with the rest of your kind.

This Landsmeet is a farce. Loghain will triumph and you will die.



[Howe is a dual wielding rogue with two mages and two fighters as backup. One of the mages throws out heals, the other debuffs. First order of business in this fight is to take them out, then the fighters, then Howe.]



[It's not actually that difficult. Everyone starts in such close proximity that it's easy to bumrush the mages. Howe's the most dangerous enemy present, but all his abilities are single target, so it's easy to neutralise him with an effective tank.]



[Once the adds are dealt with, it's easy to shred Howe. He doesn't have that much health, so four characters beating on him will end the battle quickly.]



Maker spit on you... I deserved... more...



I can't believe this pathetic toady got to gasp out some last words. Most people we kill have the decency to die quietly.



[Howe's loot is quite interesting. An axe for rogues?]



[Another key...]



[...another prison.

Howe is the arc villain of the Human Noble's origin. If you're playing as a human, you get more dialogue and the chance to sass him as he dies, which is tremendously satisifying.

Speaking of villains...]



Hmm, who's there? Stay away.

You can't do this to me! I'll have you all flayed! I'm the arl of Denerim!

Arl Urien died at Ostagar. Who are you?

I'm Vaughan Kendells, heir to the arling of Denerim! It's true!

[Vaughan Kendells is the baddie in the City Elf origin. He attempts to rape the City Elf or their wife on their wedding day and instigates a race riot in the process. The City Elf Warden can murder him in retribution, in which case he doesn't show up here, obviously.

But we didn't experience any of that, so let's make a deal with this horrible, horrible man.]



Too many of our troops were lost at Ostagar. When the riots started, Howe came with men to reinforce the garrison here.

Or that's what he claimed. As soon as I let him into the palace, he threw me in here. "One more victim of the elven uprising," he said.

Let me out of here! I'll do anything.

What caused the elves to rebel?

You know how elves are. Every now and then they start to think they' re people, and you have to put them back in their proper place.

I have a suggestion.

No. He could be useful.

A Landsmeet has been called, I need your voice.



Of course! Anything, just let me out!

Very well, you can go. (Release him.)

I swear, you won't regret this!

Already do.



[There's another prisoner in here, with a delightful continuity callback.]



Andraste, Bride of the Maker, have mercy on me.

I'm leaving.

I'm not.

Alfstanna... is that you, little sister?

No... I don't know you... do I? Are you real?

Who are you?



I... I'm Irminric, knight-lieutenant of the Denerim chantry. You... aren't one of the teyrn's men?

He sounds like he's in lyrium withdrawal. He's got all the signs: confusion, weepiness... He probably doesn't even know what he's saying.

If the grand cleric knew he were in here, she'd be spitting hot coals. Nobles don't have authority over templars.

I... I failed in my duties. Maker, forgive me. I failed, and there's no telling what he's done...

Who are you talking about?



The maleficar. He had turned blood magic upon templars and Circle mages to escape from his tower. Near Redcliffe, I cornered him...

But the teyrn's men took him from me... and brought me here...

This maleficar, was his name Jowan?

Yes. He... destroyed his phylactery... we were spread out, trying to find him... I was alone.

I... you are real, aren't you? My dreams are... so strange now. Please, if you're not a dream, help me.

You realize the door is open, right? You're free.



No one can free me from failure, save Blessed Andraste.

Give this ring... to my sister, Alfstanna. Tell her... tell her I'm sorry. Please. Ask her... to pray for me.

Okay... Goodbye Irminric.



[We're done down here. Howe's dead and everyone who can has escaped. There's a door back up to the mansion near the room we fought Howe in, but it'll put us back in the centre of a dozen enemies. We're better off returning to the door we entered from.]





'Sup Erlinda. Howe and his mages are dead, and we've freed a half dozen political prisoners. It's been a productive 30 minutes.



My thanks.

Aren't you a little short for a guard?

[BOOOO!]

Is that supposed to be ironic?

We must go quickly and avoid notice.

If Howe's people find me, I'll be killed. And my people will insist on escorting me back to the palace... where my father may also have me killed.



[Almost immediately after leaving you run into these happy campers.]



Warden! In the name of the regent, I am placing you under arrest for the murder of Rendon Howe and his men-at-arms.

Oh come on! His body's not even cold... I mean... I plead the fifth.

Surrender, and you may be shown mercy.

I'm here to free Anora, who was held captive.



Don't be ridiculous. The queen isn't being held prisoner here or anywhere else. Her father would never stand for such a thing.

She's right here. Tell her, Anora.

What?



Ser Cauthrien! Praise the Maker you're here... This brigand tried to kidnap me!

Uh oh.

Is there anyone in this outfit who hasn't tried to kill you?

Unbelievable... bring them down! Loghain wants the Warden dead or alive!



[This fight involves Cauthrien, who is the single strongest enemy in the game besides the Archdemon, plus ten archers and a mage. The best strategy is... um...]



[Uh....]



[Huh.]




NEXT TIME: The Darkspawn Christmas Special

NEW CODEX CONTENT:
The History of Ferelden Part 2
The Free Marches

Inferior fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Oct 27, 2019

SgtSteel91
Oct 21, 2010

Anora: If Howe's people find me, I'll be killed. And my people will insist on escorting me back to the palace... where my father may also have me killed.

And yet you blew her cover right in front of Loghain's right hand woman...

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Tim Curry's reading of "I deserved more." owns.

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Inferior posted:



[This fight involves Cauthrien, who is the single strongest enemy in the game besides the Archdemon, plus ten archers and a mage. The best strategy is... um...]



[Uh....]



[Huh.]


I have only ever been able to win this fight by cheating and using the console to give myself a shitload of extra attribute points.

Lord Cyrahzax
Oct 11, 2012

SgtSteel91 posted:

Anora: If Howe's people find me, I'll be killed. And my people will insist on escorting me back to the palace... where my father may also have me killed.

And yet you blew her cover right in front of Loghain's right hand woman...

Tsk tsk...

Don't sell out Anora, and she won't sell you out.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Admiral Ray posted:

I have only ever been able to win this fight by cheating and using the console to give myself a shitload of extra attribute points.

It's bullshit hard. Ser Cauthrien has more HP than the dang high dragon.

e: Actually I'm wrong, she has a couple hundred less. 3,415 vs 3,765. It's her damage per regular hit that's higher :v:

Shugojin fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Dec 16, 2017

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Shugojin posted:

It's bullshit hard. Ser Cauthrien has more HP than the dang high dragon.

e: Actually I'm wrong, she has a couple hundred less. 3,415 vs 3,765. It's her damage per regular hit that's higher :v:

It's all those archers and mage that really suck. The dragon is all alone, but she has a ton of back up.

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

If she had actually fought at the battle of... that place where the king committed assisted suicide the darkspawn would've lost so badly. :argh:

ajkalan
Aug 17, 2011

It took me something like fifteen tries to win this fight. I even resorted to using the ranger animal summons, which had never been useful to that point. The bear is pretty okay at tanking!

Schwartzcough
Aug 12, 2009

Don't tease the Octopus, kids!
I seem to remember winning in a long battle of attrition by fleeing into the hallway and maybe luring enemies or sniping one at a time with ranged attacks? Also I was probably playing on easy.

Lord Cyrahzax
Oct 11, 2012

Blood magic makes the whole encounter a cake walk, especially if you're double-classing as an Arcane Warrior. Paralyze the whole room with Blood Wound, kill the mages with Mana Clash, and clean house.

King Doom
Dec 1, 2004
I am on the Internet.
The worst thing about that fight is I'm pretty sure Ser Cauthrien's AI is massively weighted towards going after the PC. The only way I ever managed to win the fight was by getting the party in a blob and running the PC around it. Ser deathslaughter would ignore everyone else and veeeeeeery slowly get clubbed/stabbed arrowed to death trying to catch the warden.

Deadmeat5150
Nov 21, 2005

OLD MAN YELLS AT CLAN
My last playthrough as an Arcane Warrior, Zevean actually killed Howe by accident while I was trying to have him concentrate on the other magevI wasn't killing. Howe really was a giant pussy that deserved to get hosed.

Cauthrien, on the other hand, was only slightly easier to beat than Flemeth. And only because Arcane Warrior is amazing.

ThingOne
Jul 30, 2011



Would you like some tofu?


I think I remember beating her by pulling her into a side room where the archers couldn't fire at you and locking her down with stuns and freezes.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



I loving love fighting Ser Cauthrien, because it's an actually balls-hard fight where you can let all your skills shine.

I also loving hate Arl Howe and the fact you can't spent some time in the dungeon really breaking him.

SgtSteel91
Oct 21, 2010

Mister Adequate posted:

I also loving hate Arl Howe and the fact you can't spent some time in the dungeon really breaking him.

Someone played the Human Noble Origin I see

Melomane Mallet
Oct 11, 2012

I'm bad; I'm just not born that way.

Lord Cyrahzax posted:

Tsk tsk...

Don't sell out Anora, and she won't sell you out.

You would be surprised at the number of people who don't get this and absolutely hate Anora for what is, in fact, their own gently caress up.

mauman
Jul 30, 2014

Whoever's got the biggest whiskers does the talking.

SgtSteel91 posted:

Someone played the Human Noble Origin I see

That was my first character too

Gutting Howe was one HELL of a pleasure.

Props to Tim Curry, for once again making a villain great in his :smug: way.

Sankara
Jul 18, 2008


Randaconda posted:

Tim Curry's reading of "I deserved more." owns.

Echoing this. He did a great job the whole game. Tim Curry owns. Why doesn't he do more voicework? Crushes it every time. Best part of Brutal Legend, he is.

Pikestaff
Feb 17, 2013

Came here to bark at you




Inferior posted:




I definitely want to steal this stripy boy.

He's so stripey I love him :neckbeard:

I love how many Bad Guys you can find down here like Arl Howe (hey, I'm fond of the Howes! ...and the whos, the whys, and the whats!) and Vaughan. Also I love how all these shirtless dudes are like, completely ripped.

mauman
Jul 30, 2014

Whoever's got the biggest whiskers does the talking.

Doctor Reynolds posted:

Echoing this. He did a great job the whole game. Tim Curry owns. Why doesn't he do more voicework? Crushes it every time. Best part of Brutal Legend, he is.

Probably because he's wheelchair bound after a stroke. I'd imagine that makes such things difficult.

Haberdashery
Apr 20, 2008

Part of a complete breakfast
The Cauthrien fight isn't that bad, actually. The archers are mostly leashed to the room they start in, so you can just pull Cauthrien to a side room and focus her down. Then pick off the archers in small groups (or big Mage AOEs).

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde

SgtSteel91 posted:

Anora: If Howe's people find me, I'll be killed. And my people will insist on escorting me back to the palace... where my father may also have me killed.

And yet you blew her cover right in front of Loghain's right hand woman...
Then she sells you out, which is why I like to cut her father's head off in front of her and send her packing.

SgtSteel91
Oct 21, 2010

SubponticatePoster posted:

Then she sells you out, which is why I like to cut her father's head off in front of her and send her packing.


Lord Cyrahzax posted:

Tsk tsk...

Don't sell out Anora, and she won't sell you out.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
So do we have a rough map location for the Archdemon's forces, right now?

Raygereio
Nov 12, 2012

Glazius posted:

So do we have a rough map location for the Archdemon's forces, right now?
Not really, because honestly the story doesn't care where the Archdemon & the darkspawn horde are until they're actually needed for the plot.

Presumably at this point the Archdemon and the main body of the horde are hanging out somewhere in the Deep Roads.

Melomane Mallet
Oct 11, 2012

I'm bad; I'm just not born that way.

Melomane Mallet posted:

You would be surprised at the number of people who don't get this and absolutely hate Anora for what is, in fact, their own gently caress up.

SubponticatePoster posted:

Then she sells you out, which is why I like to cut her father's head off in front of her and send her packing.

Case in point.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Is there any way to avoid that fight or does the dialogue tree railroad you into it?

Lord Cyrahzax
Oct 11, 2012

Crazycryodude posted:

Is there any way to avoid that fight or does the dialogue tree railroad you into it?

you can surrender

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde

Melomane Mallet posted:

Case in point.
Does she stick up for you at the Landsmeet if you don't say anything?

Melomane Mallet
Oct 11, 2012

I'm bad; I'm just not born that way.

SubponticatePoster posted:

Does she stick up for you at the Landsmeet if you don't say anything?

Yes, absolutely. As long as you don't sell her out to Cauthrien or straight up tell her you're gonna kill her dad, Anora will be a loyal ally.

mauman
Jul 30, 2014

Whoever's got the biggest whiskers does the talking.

Melomane Mallet posted:

Yes, absolutely. As long as you don't sell her out to Cauthrien or straight up tell her you're gonna kill her dad, Anora will be a loyal ally.

or say that Allister minus her will be on the throne to be fair. But otherwise yes.

Melomane Mallet
Oct 11, 2012

I'm bad; I'm just not born that way.

mauman posted:

or say that Allister minus her will be on the throne to be fair. But otherwise yes.

Ha, forgot about that one. Been ages since I've actually played DAO. :downs:

Pikestaff
Feb 17, 2013

Came here to bark at you




SubponticatePoster posted:

Then she sells you out, which is why I like to cut her father's head off in front of her and send her packing.

Oh come now, that's not nearly as fun as being a mage and blowing up her father in front of her, courtesy of the Walking Bomb spells. :devil:

paradoxGentleman
Dec 10, 2013

wheres the jester, I could do with some pointless nonsense right about now

Okay, I feel like I lost track of what was happening. What did Bianca do to piss off Anora?

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

paradoxGentleman posted:

Okay, I feel like I lost track of what was happening. What did Bianca do to piss off Anora?

Anora said straight out "Don't tell any of my dad's people I'm with you, they'll either kill me or take me to someone who will" and Bianca blew it.

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FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

paradoxGentleman posted:

Okay, I feel like I lost track of what was happening. What did Bianca do to piss off Anora?

Revealed her existence. The entire point is to sneak her away from her father and howe. Using her to justify our break in can be taken as turning her over to her father.

But really anora is in it for anora and will gladly backstab her way to the top if it means keeping her power, be it us or her father.

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