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the black husserl posted:How did they gently caress up marketing this bill so badly? Americans love tax cuts. The GOP knows that public opinion is irrelevant. Dick Trauma posted:Holy poo poo is that thing unflattering. I love it. They need to inflate its size by about 50% though because Trump hasn't been that thin in years. Looking forward to the eventual news of someone hacking his robot to play the tape audio and the freakout of families who go to Disney only to have that audio played for their families. Hieronymous Alloy posted:A new cfpb for healthcare could not deal with the scope of the problems without staffing up till they we're the size of the military. Reviewing medical records is a *lot* of work. Sounds like a great way to create a few (million) jobs.
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boner confessor posted:a lot of folks dont because they get run over by cars and or screw up ecosystems by murdering for fun The other side of our townhouse development has a rat problem. Our side does not, because one of our neighbors has an awesome outdoor cat.
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Also that stupid corporation family's taxes are going up since they can't deduct their state taxes anymore
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the black husserl posted:How did they gently caress up marketing this bill so badly? Americans love tax cuts. they bought their own hype regarding tax reform long enough to pass a reconciliation bill that required having a lot of losers in the bill, then let paul ryan, noted idiot, draft the initial bill that would get the most public attention with zero regard for how all those losers would play in public because they were too focused on the cash grab
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Koalas March posted:related and awesome infographic: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/cats_actually_kill Those numbers are probably way too low. A huge number of cats are farm cats. The farmers don't feed them much, maybe a saucer of milk about to go bad every now and then. The cats just roam and hunt.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Also that stupid corporation family's taxes are going up since they can't deduct their state taxes anymore they live in a zero income tax state, obviously, just like all Americans should
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Aramis posted:I'm going to guess that most of that side-business is actually rent money that mostly goes towards paying mortgages. That would help to explain the absurdly low tax rate. But he specified two types of business income. Rent would only be one and it would be pass through.
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Evil Fluffy posted:The GOP knows that public opinion is irrelevant. Appeasing their wealthy donors with a blatant wealth transfer to the rich and corporations is more important than serving their voters. It's pretty shameless and cynical but there you go.
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The Republicans not giving a poo poo about the public perception of this bill is pretty worrisome since it implies they know that it doesn't matter. Hopefully that's because they don't care about their jobs and are fine moving to lucrative lobbyist positions in the companies they are grifting for and not because they know something about their own elect-ability we don't.
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Xae posted:Those numbers are probably way too low. there's only 2.1 million farms in the united states so even if every single one had a cat it wouldn't be "a huge number" of cats, relatively speaking. even if every single one had two cats it wouldn't be.
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Aramis posted:What's the visibility of the ASPCA? The canadian equivalent is certainly by far better known than PETA up here. ASPCA by a country mile. Only time I hear about PETA is when it comes to edgelord stunts.
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Radish posted:The Republicans not giving a poo poo about the public perception of this bill is pretty worrisome since it implies they know that it doesn't matter. Hopefully that's because they don't care about their jobs and are fine moving to lucrative lobbyist positions in the companies they are grifting for and not because they know something about their own elect-ability we don't. the best explanation i read is that the public opinion of the GOP is already pretty baked in. who out there is going to vote republican if this doesn't pass, but won't if it does? we all know what they are. so yeah, in a pretty real sense it doesn't matter, and it does matter to their grifting operations and fundraising operations.
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PETA is bad and crazy a lot but also it's one of those things where it's not like people would be any kinder to a less extreme group since people hate their raw message (don't be cruel to animals) more than basically anything imaginable. If they fixed up their image and made their ads more palatable to people's sensibilities people would just reward them with ignoring them forever and not by being more sympathetic.
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evilweasel posted:there's only 2.1 million farms in the united states so even if every single one had a cat it wouldn't be "a huge number" of cats, relatively speaking. even if every single one had two cats it wouldn't be. Well, at least where I grew up the larger farms would have a dozen or so cats. Most of them don't even get named or anything. The cats just live in a little hut the farmer sets up and they make do on their own.
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/JohnCornyn/status/943136421765840896 I wonder if you can actually find this family.
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evilweasel posted:there's only 2.1 million farms in the united states so even if every single one had a cat it wouldn't be "a huge number" of cats, relatively speaking. even if every single one had two cats it wouldn't be. "Farms" in this context probably includes a lot of non-farm rural landowners, and they usually don't have just one or two cats, because rural cats tend to not have a very long lifespan.
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Taerkar posted:I wonder if you can actually find this family. nope, it's the result of an optimization trying to find the biggest percentage tax cut you can get on a family you can claim is middle class
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/JohnCornyn/status/943136421765840896 Ah yes, tell me more about normal, average families, Mr. 1% 
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GOP leaders think the low tax cut approval numbers are just the proles being idiots and assume everyone will come around once the economy is booming again. They know better than the public and economists, because they've successfully brainwashed themselves.
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Taerkar posted:I wonder if you can actually find this family. Check Cornyn's relatives
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What the gently caress is a domesticated cat?
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business hammocks posted:Jones’ statement about rape allegations is a loving disgrace. The cynic in me thinks he's going to try to flip to the republican party before the next election. It's not like Alabama doesn't already have a precedent for that sort of thing.
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Dietrich posted:What the gently caress is a domesticated cat? i think it's distinguishing them from feral cats given that undomesticated cats went extinct a while ago
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NmareBfly posted:GOP leaders think the low tax cut approval numbers are just the proles being idiots and assume everyone will come around once the economy is booming again. They know better than the public and economists, because they've successfully brainwashed themselves. I think the take is more likely where they know it's bad and unpopular but believe they have a voting base that they also know won't abandon them over economic issues. Their real constituents are the money backers as their voters have effectively given up their right to be heard as they vote Republican regardless of actions.
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Radish posted:The Republicans not giving a poo poo about the public perception of this bill is pretty worrisome since it implies they know that it doesn't matter. Hopefully that's because they don't care about their jobs and are fine moving to lucrative lobbyist positions in the companies they are grifting for and not because they know something about their own elect-ability we don't. Republicans have never, ever given a poo poo about public perception. It didn't stop us from reelecting Obama and it hasn't stopped Democrats from winning in NJ, VA, and AL this year. They knew that if they did not pass a tax cut they'd never get another cent from their donors, that's why they are pushing this--that and they know that they have a voterbase that will bitch, moan, piss, whine, and then vote for them again anyway because BETTER THEM THEN A DEMMYCRAT. They're counting on the public to have lovely memories next year, and no one ever lost money betting against the collective memory of the American voting populace. You gotta stop schvitzing. No one is going to suddenly cancel elections or outlaw being a liberal or a Democrat.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:PETA is bad and crazy a lot but also it's one of those things where it's not like people would be any kinder to a less extreme group since people hate their raw message (don't be cruel to animals) more than basically anything imaginable. If they fixed up their image and made their ads more palatable to people's sensibilities people would just reward them with ignoring them forever and not by being more sympathetic. Opposing industrial livestock practices and trying to preserve natural areas gets people’s lives ruined. America absolutely hates animals and does not ever want to think about them as capable of feeling fear or pain.
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Radish posted:The Republicans not giving a poo poo about the public perception of this bill is pretty worrisome since it implies they know that it doesn't matter. Hopefully that's because they don't care about their jobs and are fine moving to lucrative lobbyist positions in the companies they are grifting for and not because they know something about their own elect-ability we don't. The GOP now believes they are completely and utterly hosed, at least the ones in states/districts that are remotely competitive. This is a jewelry store smash-and-grab, they are getting whatever they can.
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Civil Lies posted:The cynic in me thinks he's going to try to flip to the republican party before the next election. It's not like Alabama doesn't already have a precedent for that sort of thing. I have very real concerns about that happening in a 51-Dem Majority situation, but his unwillingness to disavow the Democratic position on abortion and the GOP's continued courting of White Supremacists makes that unlikely, IMO.
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Civil Lies posted:The cynic in me thinks he's going to try to flip to the republican party before the next election. It's not like Alabama doesn't already have a precedent for that sort of thing. This is a pretty special level of ridiculous
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Straight White Shark posted:But that raises the question of what kind of $60k wage household owns enough real estate to make $40k renting it out. There are whole forums on the internet dedicated to teaching people how to become slumlords. This seems like kind of the situation they'd get into.
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Civil Lies posted:The cynic in me thinks he's going to try to flip to the republican party before the next election. It's not like Alabama doesn't already have a precedent for that sort of thing. nah, he's just following the manchin route: he's from a deep red state and the way to get re-elected is to be loudly republican where it will help in the state (which is why nobody bit on obamacare repeal and the current tax nonsense, which nobody likes) and doesn't matter and quietly democratic where it does. in other news, manchin is looking reasonably likely to get re-elected in loving west virginia.
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evilweasel posted:i think it's distinguishing them from feral cats given that undomesticated cats went extinct a while ago 
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Civil Lies posted:The cynic in me thinks he's going to try to flip to the republican party before the next election. It's not like Alabama doesn't already have a precedent for that sort of thing. No loving chance in hell. The guy isn't a blue dog, his entire platform is straight up center-left if you'd actually check it out. He's far better than someone like Manchin
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business hammocks posted:Opposing industrial livestock practices and trying to preserve natural areas gets people’s lives ruined. America absolutely hates animals and does not ever want to think about them as capable of feeling fear or pain. It's not just America. Right wingers in all countries are scum. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...s-a8065161.html There's a place in hell for the likes of Jim Messina.
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Pakled posted:Ah yes, tell me more about normal, average families, Mr. 1% I’m well familiar with this illustration but I just noticed today that the single mother’s son has incredibly long and impossible arms.
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Radish posted:It's not just America. Right wingers in all countries are scum. standard american right wingers are extremists anywhere else, there's no loving comparison
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Lote posted:I’m well familiar with this illustration but I just noticed today that the single mother’s son has incredibly long and impossible arms. The one percent of arm length
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evilweasel posted:standard american right wingers are extremists anywhere else, there's no loving comparison Yeah that's true as well.
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Pakled posted:Ah yes, tell me more about normal, average families, Mr. 1% Missing the final image, F-- would not view again 
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evilweasel posted:standard american right wingers are extremists anywhere else, there's no loving comparison Just look at how Teresa May wants absolutely nothing to do with a potential Trump state visit.
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