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Turtlicious posted:I think it's clear we got some wealthy rear end dudes in this thread. I'm starting to suspect that website isn't on the level.
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TheScott2K posted:Pretty much everyone has said they neither want nor need their cut But they *do* need it, because when they are old and weak the Republicans will have destroyed every support for them, so they need to hoard the $500 a year their masters are deigning to allow them.
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Dec 19, 2017 21:13
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My God if that Virginia delegate wins her race by 1 vote I will laugh and never stop.
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Turtlicious posted:I think it's clear we got some wealthy rear end dudes in this thread. You should take a look in the business subforum, what you'll see there will blow your loving mind.
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Turtlicious posted:My bad, please continue to tell us how the tax cut benefits you. I am happy to hear about your piece of the blood money! I think it’s kinda encouraging and neat that so many wealthy posters are posting negatively about this tax plan
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TheScott2K posted:Pretty much everyone has said they neither want nor need their cut I wouldn't mind a tax cut, I just would want it financed by the blood of the 0.1% not the less fortunate.
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SHOAH NUFF posted:I think it’s kinda encouraging and neat that so many wealthy posters are posting negatively about this tax plan
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Dec 19, 2017 21:16
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RuanGacho posted:I'm starting to suspect that website isn't on the level. https://twitter.com/maximlott Yeah probably not
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SHOAH NUFF posted:I think it’s kinda encouraging and neat that so many wealthy posters are posting negatively about this tax plan I'm such a leftist Statist I think UBI should be our fun money and everything else should be taken care of. KNew posted:https://twitter.com/maximlott  I hadn't even looked at it, how the gently caress did you idiots fall for this?
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I’m kinda wondering how long it’ll take between this bill passing and the stock markets realizing that the gains were all a speculative bubble and everyone pulling out of the market, simultaneously. Will it be long enough to blame on the tax bill fueling wild speculation, or sooner than that where Greasy Shitstain Liar Kelly Ann Conway can stand up in front of a camera and blame Obama policies for dooming the economy before the Great White Tax Bill could help lift the burden from the job creators? Either way, 2018’s gonna suck poo poo. Time to batten down the hatches and prepare for an unemployment stint.
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Dec 19, 2017 21:19
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Lol the balance of the entire Virginia state legislature is hinging on one single vote. Can't make this poo poo up.
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Dec 19, 2017 21:19
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Those posters showing savings are indeed aware that it is, indeed, a farce doomed to die for the sake of no one but the worst among. It is simultaneously cold comfort among those for whom this bill is immediate murder by legislation.
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Dec 19, 2017 21:19
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Agreed. A number of my friends are aghast at how much they're going to save, despite not needing the money and being on track for retirement.
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Dec 19, 2017 21:20
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Lol the balance of the entire Virginia state legislature is hinging on one single vote. Can't make this poo poo up. Some guy from Newport News deciding whether we get a Medicaid expansion
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Alter Ego posted:My God if that Virginia delegate wins her race by 1 vote I will laugh and never stop. LAUGH WITHOUT CEASING LANDSLIDE SYMONDS BABY
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Office Pig posted:Those posters showing savings are indeed aware that it is, indeed, a farce doomed to die for the sake of no one but the worst among. I'm saying I'm pretty sure those numbers make all the most generous possible assumptions and may in fact be completely wrong. Like the output could be "the money you'll save over the entire 10 years"
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Dec 19, 2017 21:22
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there are still (a) absentee ballots left to recount and (b) one single, lonesome, provisional ballot left to count this gonna get crazy
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Dec 19, 2017 21:23
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I think some people read that the bill favorited billionaires and translated that in their head to only being tax breaks for only billionaires. And are now lashing out that it gave up to dozens of dollars a month to some randoms and it ruins their talking point that it was only a tax break for the billionaires and now they have to say some longer "it raises and lowers taxes on various rich and not rich groups in a way that disproportionately favors the rich groups at a large cost to society"
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Dec 19, 2017 21:23
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Absentee and especially provisional tend to favor Democrats don't they? Except for military absentee
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Absentee and especially provisional tend to favor Democrats don't they? Except for military absentee Absentee, depends on the state (basically if they have early voting it does, if they don't it doesn't). Provisional, yes.
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Gonna be a bummer if the Democrat wins and then the absentees flip it back but man what the hell either way.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I think some people read that the bill favorited billionaires and translated that in their head to only being tax breaks for only billionaires. And are now lashing out that it gave up to dozens of dollars a month to some randoms and it ruins their talking point that it was only a tax break for the billionaires and now they have to say some longer "it raises and lowers taxes on various rich and not rich groups in a way that disproportionately favors the rich groups at a large cost to society" It's showing your tax bill for 2018. Your tax bill for 2025 will be higher (the tax bill for the billionaires and the corporations will still be lower, though).
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In ... less fraught Trump news, it's curious how his very use of language has become anathema: http://maristpoll.marist.edu/1218-whatever-loses-ground-but-retains-annoying-word-title/ quote:The recent addition of “fake news” takes second place with 23% Two of his trademark catchphrases are the single most annoying things 31% of Americans can imagine.
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RuanGacho posted:I'm such a leftist Statist I think UBI should be our fun money and everything else should be taken care of. It seems about the same as what other sites have been estimating.
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Office Pig posted:Those posters showing savings are indeed aware that it is, indeed, a farce doomed to die for the sake of no one but the worst among. it's not immediate murder for basically-anyone, don't be weird and dumb it's possible for something to be very bad without directly killing people
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Dietrich posted:It's showing your tax bill for 2018. Your tax bill for 2025 will be higher (the tax bill for the billionaires and the corporations will still be lower, though). If we're lucky a new and more reasonable tax bill will be written by then as a replacement, after the republicans are all
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Turtlicious posted:I think it's clear we got some wealthy rear end dudes in this thread. I think part of it is that SA skews a little older. I'm in my 40s and living very differently than I was in my 20s. Probably some of the young people in here will be in a similar situation. Having said that, I read some of the fallout from this and it makes me feel sick to my stomach. Agent Burt Macklin fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Dec 19, 2017 |
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https://twitter.com/reemadamin/status/943216518413811714 ONLY A SINGLE PROVISIONAL BALLOT LEFT TO COUNT
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Agreed. A number of my friends are aghast at how much they're going to save, despite not needing the money and being on track for retirement. On track for retirement, *assuming* Medicare and Social Security survive. Perhaps they should recalculate to see if they will be able to afford the crushing health bills that old folk will get without Medicare.
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Dietrich posted:It's showing your tax bill for 2018. Your tax bill for 2025 will be higher (the tax bill for the billionaires and the corporations will still be lower, though). Eh, you may or may not still see a tax cut. People did a real bad thing of being hyperbolic and changing "it favors billionaires" into a hyper literal idea that it only gave tax breaks to only billionaires and to all billionaires and not to anyone else ever. Like you need to recalibrate to "this is bad because it disproportionately benefits the people that need it least" but not go too far and hit fiction of the idea that it was ever "no one gets a tax cut except all billionaires" or something. It can be both bad and also cut your taxes a little.
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/reemadamin/status/943216518413811714 Just lol if it ends up tied.
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/reemadamin/status/943216518413811714 I know "lol this script is implausible" jokes are played out, but seriously...
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eviltastic posted:I know "lol this script is implausible" jokes are played out, but seriously... Satire's been dead and buried in the salted, unfeeling earth for a year and a month. I believe everything now.
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What happened with the one where a bunch of people were given the entirely wrong ballot?
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Was the health care spending deduction removed in the final bill?? If so, that's where my tax cut is going 
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Like you need to recalibrate to "this is bad because it disproportionately benefits the people that need it least" but not go too far and hit fiction of the idea that it was ever "no one gets a tax cut except all billionaires" or something. It can be both bad and also cut your taxes a little. A lot of people here are white men with decent full-time jobs in red/purple states. The very definition of a Trump voter. Since Republicans can't do tax breaks by party affiliation, they are going to do it by demographic.
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/reemadamin/status/943216518413811714 
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twice burned ice posted:Just lol if it ends up tied. What happens in case of a tie? Is there a new election or does someone get a tiebreaker?
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