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Is there a thread for 2018 governors? I've been paying so much attention to the Senate, I know nothing about that.
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Lycus posted:Is there a thread for 2018 governors? I'm been paying so much attention to the Senate, I know nothing about that. Nope, just a 2017 state-level race thread.
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Dec 20, 2017 05:42
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:A ton of governors mansions are up for grabs next year. I have a bottle of pretty nice scotch that I've been saving for celebration specifically if Charlie Baker loses, despite how fun it has been watching him continuously crush his own balls trying to straddle the fence.
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Dec 20, 2017 05:47
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Fulchrum posted:I think its time to admit that 2016 was an unwinnable situation against Trump, since you would have to contend with a media who were married to the idea that they needed to portray both candidates as equivalents, a candidate who was so insubstantial and shameless you couldn't pin any of the bad poo poo he did to him because he would pivot aaaaany day now, an electorate that didn't care that it was being lied to, and in fact rewarded the most shameless liar, Russian interference no matter what, voter suppression on an unprecedented scale, incredibly motivated white rage while the media cannot call a white supremacist a white supremacist....people who say "Bernie would have won" are still clinging to the delusion that this was in any way about policy or substance, and wasn't just a referendum on white people wanting to blame everything on the brown people. But there wasn’t any significant increase in white conservative turnout so this idea that there was a swelling tide of conservatism that washed over the country doesn’t really bare out. What we did see was a very low turnout for the dems. This could be attributed to voter suppression and/or running a deeply unpopular candidate who didn’t bother to campaign in several key states, who didn’t offer anything of substance to voters beyond not being the crazy one.
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Dec 20, 2017 05:55
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Evil Fluffy posted:If the Dems take the Senate they'd better not confirm a single loving nominee of Trump's. Not that there will be any vacancies because the GOP's going to fill them all by then one way or the other. Realtalk question: the judge thing is probably one of the single biggest sources of my day-by-day anxiety because I've got a JD and got myself all filled up with idealism about the sanctity of our judiciary and the importance of lifetime appointments to remove political bias and other bullshit, but I never took much time to actually study how appointments go in real-world terms. How much can/should we expect this court-packing to continue or accelerate given that in more than a calendar year there have "only," been 18 appointments (not counting Gorsuch) and that the current queue is "only," 6/15 and 34/140? Given the current year was already a historic high-point of confirmations, do we really need to fear they're going to try to more-than-double that in Year 2 to get that entire list done before there is any risk of losing the Senate? Or that their goal might be to fill the entire list of vacancies before 2020 despite that it would be absurdly beyond precedent? I mean, I know the obvious answer would be to never assume the Republican Party can stoop no lower, but still, contemplating the absolute worst case scenario has literally made me lose sleep, so it would be nice to hear it's not as bleak as it seems on this front at least.
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Dec 20, 2017 05:59
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If you cannot sleep I suggest exercising for 45 minutes or longer every day. It's really helped me out with the sleeping. With the magic of cell phones you can even shitpost from your exercise machine of choice.
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Dec 20, 2017 06:00
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Sanguinia posted:Realtalk question: the judge thing is probably one of the single biggest sources of my day-by-day anxiety because I've got a JD and got myself all filled up with idealism about the sanctity of our judiciary and the importance of lifetime appointments to remove political bias and other bullshit, but I never took much time to actually study how appointments go in real-world terms. How much can/should we expect this court-packing to continue or accelerate given that in more than a calendar year there have "only," been 18 appointments (not counting Gorsuch) and that the current queue is "only," 6/15 and 34/140? Given the current year was already a historic high-point of confirmations, do we really need to fear they're going to try to more-than-double that in Year 2 to get that entire list done before there is any risk of losing the Senate? Or that their goal might be to fill the entire list of vacancies before 2020 despite that it would be absurdly beyond precedent? Life time appointments are extremely dumb. That is why they're pushing for SC justices in their 40s and 50s and Federal Judges in their 30s. They want guys who will rule from the bench for the next 60 years.
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Dec 20, 2017 06:01
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Sanguinia posted:Realtalk question: the judge thing is probably one of the single biggest sources of my day-by-day anxiety because I've got a JD and got myself all filled up with idealism about the sanctity of our judiciary and the importance of lifetime appointments to remove political bias and other bullshit, but I never took much time to actually study how appointments go in real-world terms. How much can/should we expect this court-packing to continue or accelerate given that in more than a calendar year there have "only," been 18 appointments (not counting Gorsuch) and that the current queue is "only," 6/15 and 34/140? Given the current year was already a historic high-point of confirmations, do we really need to fear they're going to try to more-than-double that in Year 2 to get that entire list done before there is any risk of losing the Senate? Or that their goal might be to fill the entire list of vacancies before 2020 despite that it would be absurdly beyond precedent? Also, yes, of course the worst case scenario is highly probable and perhaps even likely - haven't you been paying any attention?
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Dec 20, 2017 06:05
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Sanguinia posted:Realtalk question: the judge thing is probably one of the single biggest sources of my day-by-day anxiety because I've got a JD and got myself all filled up with idealism about the sanctity of our judiciary and the importance of lifetime appointments to remove political bias and other bullshit, but I never took much time to actually study how appointments go in real-world terms. How much can/should we expect this court-packing to continue or accelerate given that in more than a calendar year there have "only," been 18 appointments (not counting Gorsuch) and that the current queue is "only," 6/15 and 34/140? Given the current year was already a historic high-point of confirmations, do we really need to fear they're going to try to more-than-double that in Year 2 to get that entire list done before there is any risk of losing the Senate? Or that their goal might be to fill the entire list of vacancies before 2020 despite that it would be absurdly beyond precedent?
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Dec 20, 2017 06:13
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Evil Fluffy posted:
2019: "We can't confirm a Supreme Court justice while the president is under impeachment proceedings." 2020: "We can't confirm a Supreme Court justice in the last year of a term. Let's let the people decide."
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Dec 20, 2017 06:15
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Grapplejack posted:Hey so uh can we talk about something real quick There was a moment during the election when Hillary mentioned UFO stuff.
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Dec 20, 2017 06:17
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I'm worried a lot of people here are gonna get broke-brained when Trump is never impeached.
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Dec 20, 2017 06:18
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Harik posted:Is there a tax plan calculator that takes EITC/ATC into account? Because for basically the entire population of low-income families with children it just says "0" instead of the correct negative amount. There are some notes in section 14 paragraph 88 that states: "BOOTSTRAPS!!!"
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Dec 20, 2017 06:19
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I kind of wonder if this is just electoral triangulation in action. UFO buffs, the Coast 2 Coast AM crowd is a large swing demographic and both Trump (Cruz's dad was JFK's assassin) and Hillary courted them in minor ways.
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Dec 20, 2017 06:20
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Oh, cool. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/19/health/lethal-viruses-nih.html
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Dec 20, 2017 06:20
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Petr posted:I'm worried a lot of people here are gonna get broke-brained when Trump is never impeached. Most of the people here are already broke brains so it won't be much of a change. Besides, Trump would resign in success before he would let himself be truely impeached.
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Dec 20, 2017 06:21
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https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/943334420693635073 Jesus. This is the worst timeline
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Dec 20, 2017 06:21
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Petr posted:I'm worried a lot of people here are gonna get broke-brained when Trump is never impeached. Right he's gonna get booted out by millions of milennials.
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Dec 20, 2017 06:22
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https://twitter.com/joshuamound/status/943329541564633088
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Dec 20, 2017 06:23
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Synthbuttrange posted:https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/943334420693635073 Trump would walk right in there without a hazmat suit bragging about making viruses great again.
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Dec 20, 2017 06:27
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We need to get Pence to do a tour of that lab
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Dec 20, 2017 06:31
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Serfer posted:bribery, the coolest of crimes It's not bribery if it's political donations or tax cuts designed to benefit specific individuals. Apparently. Just like it's not murder if you kill children by defunding their health insurance. Just the hard facts of life, money doesn't grow on trees unless you were born with a money tree up your rear end.
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Dec 20, 2017 06:36
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Synthbuttrange posted:https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/943334420693635073 It was a bad ban that hit very clearly legitimate research and needed to be reversed. Like it’s a ban that sounds good if you think of mad scientists sitting and cooking up ultra super weapons but really it ended up banning dull medical research on gene expression.
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Dec 20, 2017 06:37
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Y'all remember when they found small pox in some old lab freezer a while back? Man good times!
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Dec 20, 2017 06:39
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Petr posted:I'm worried a lot of people here are gonna get broke-brained when Trump is never impeached. poo poo, we've been broke brained since Nov. 9th, 2016. You need to catch the gently caress up.
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Dec 20, 2017 06:40
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https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/943355364761841665
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Dec 20, 2017 06:45
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Bicyclops posted:I have a bottle of pretty nice scotch that I've been saving for celebration specifically if Charlie Baker loses, despite how fun it has been watching him continuously crush his own balls trying to straddle the fence. Yeah, uh, might want to reassign that bottle. Baker will win handily.
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Dec 20, 2017 06:46
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gently caress Pence and the horse that rode in on him!
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Dec 20, 2017 06:47
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Tax bill passed. Time to drink and forget.
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Dec 20, 2017 06:47
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Welp, that's it. RIP western democracy
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Dec 20, 2017 06:49
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When the dems retake power they better do exactly what Trump is doing to everything Obama did, but in reverse and also to everything they did. They won't, because they're democrats, but they should.
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Dec 20, 2017 06:50
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Well, at least this is all they can do legislatively until late next year.
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Dec 20, 2017 06:51
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Gotta post the video too. https://twitter.com/amplifirenews_/status/943354850271793152
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Dec 20, 2017 06:53
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Synthbuttrange posted:https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/943334420693635073 That sort of research will help us proactively screen for, target, and maybe even begin developing vaccines for epidemics like ebola to help decrease the amount of collective pain and suffering experienced when they occur. It's incredibly valuable and is much better than our current approach of: scramble at the last minute and throw money haphazardly at a dart board hoping for the best.
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Dec 20, 2017 06:56
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empty whippet box posted:When the dems retake power they better do exactly what Trump is doing to everything Obama did, but in reverse and also to everything they did. They won't, because they're democrats, but they should. This needs to stay an issue for when dems are in power again. We can’t let them be like how Obama was on the Bush tax cuts.
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Dec 20, 2017 06:59
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https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/943288488249749504quote:A pivotal moment in the Republican party’s drive for tax overhaul legislation came in September, when two GOP senators agreed that tax cuts could add $1.5 trillion to deficits over 10 years, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said Tuesday.
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Dec 20, 2017 07:01
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empty whippet box posted:When the dems retake power they better do exactly what Trump is doing to everything Obama did, but in reverse and also to everything they did. They won't, because they're democrats, but they should. Agreed. And there will of course be the people who will object and say that we should hold ourselves above the GOP and that if we mirror their behavior we become no better - to that I'd say that first, seizing power for the clear betterment of the people is an obvious moral good, and long-term the only thing that is going to prevent this kind of psychotic government from becoming a regular fixture in American government is if all sides experience the downsides of permitting it to happen, and therefore have a common cause in establishing rules for preventing it happening again.
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Dec 20, 2017 07:01
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what are the chances Paul Ryan does a mic drop and takes some cushy job from someone he just handed over billions to
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Dec 20, 2017 07:15
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Withnail posted:what are the chances Paul Ryan does a mic drop and takes some cushy job from someone he just handed over billions to Roughly 100% if it looks like a Dem wave is coming.
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Dec 20, 2017 07:19
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Trump is really about to be the King of Debt.
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Dec 20, 2017 07:20
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