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ModernMajorGeneral
Jun 25, 2010

Solemn Sloth posted:

There’s a pretty big difference to the sense of space contributed to by a restaurant/cafe and an apple store

Agreed. Even though restaurants are commercial enterprises the act of going out and eating food in groups has been a part of human social interaction for millennia in a way that Apple stores clearly don't provide.

Whitlam posted:

I never said anything about it being okay because it's Labor, I just said I disagree with the knee-jerk opposition because the space will be used for public events and activities

Where are you getting this stuff about the space being open to public events from? Nothing like it is mentioned in the ABC article. If you're referring to the additional open land created by the development, sure, but I wouldn't thank Apple for that.

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Concatenation
Jul 23, 2005

Your human mentality cries out for vengeance and thrives on the violence you say you can hardly endure.
Ah, the sheer trend-following arrogance of using a Mac to make music. Looking forward to seeing how many cold chisel and ac/dc songs are in their list

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Rererereposting

Triple M is making the surprising move to launch its own top 100 playlist on Australia Day next year, just weeks after triple j announced it is moving the date of the Hottest 100.

An email sent to Triple M subscribers, obtained by The Music today, announced the 'Ozzest 100' list and takes a jab at the youth broadcaster.

"So, the taxpayer funded FM has decided that there’ll be no soundtrack for Australia Day. Let’s face it, that’s usually full of hipsters or kids making music on a Mac," the email reads.

"At Triple M, we’re going to give you what you’ve asked for. The perfect Australia Day soundtrack."

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Can't wait for the same people that complained about fed square and never visit town to complain about this.

Whitlam
Aug 2, 2014

Some goons overreact. Go figure.

ModernMajorGeneral posted:

Where are you getting this stuff about the space being open to public events from? Nothing like it is mentioned in the ABC article. If you're referring to the additional open land created by the development, sure, but I wouldn't thank Apple for that.

Fed Square posted:

This isn’t just any regular Apple shop – as a Global Flagship Store and Apple’s most significant store in the Southern Hemisphere, the space will host workshops, classes, and live music events. It will add to the exciting program of events already delivered by Federation Square, its partners and cultural tenants such as ACMI, the Koorie Heritage Trust and the NGV.
http://fedsquare.com/an-apple-global-flagship-store-to-open-at-federation-square

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Former senator Lady Florence Bjelke-Petersen has died at 97 years of age.

Lady Bjelke-Petersen was the wife of Queensland's longest-serving Premier Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Anidav posted:

Former senator Lady Florence Bjelke-Petersen has died at 97 years of age.

Lady Bjelke-Petersen was the wife of Queensland's longest-serving Premier Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen.

The pumpkin scones have left the building!

Lid posted:

Rererereposting

Good, let's ring Triple M up and tell them to get hosed too. They're about to discover why the stats they get might be a little bit wrong.

ModernMajorGeneral
Jun 25, 2010

Although you can't tell from the description, some or all of these could easily just be paid commercial events for Apple's benefit.

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib

MikeJF posted:

But also Death of the Architect. Honestly, a few little shard shapes in the hat or collar would be all it needs, or shards as the balcony rail or patterned in the glass. Just a token nod.

https://twitter.com/drunkill/status/943381760317931520

Korgan
Feb 14, 2012


Lid posted:

Rererereposting

Triple M is making the surprising move to launch its own top 100 playlist on Australia Day next year, just weeks after triple j announced it is moving the date of the Hottest 100.

An email sent to Triple M subscribers, obtained by The Music today, announced the 'Ozzest 100' list and takes a jab at the youth broadcaster.

"So, the taxpayer funded FM has decided that there’ll be no soundtrack for Australia Day. Let’s face it, that’s usually full of hipsters or kids making music on a Mac," the email reads.

"At Triple M, we’re going to give you what you’ve asked for. The perfect Australia Day soundtrack."

Can't wait for a whole day's worth of Barnsey and Accadacca

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
Still lolling that the AFPs idea of OpSec is “don’t tweet the link out to anyone”.

Whitlam
Aug 2, 2014

Some goons overreact. Go figure.

ModernMajorGeneral posted:

Although you can't tell from the description, some or all of these could easily just be paid commercial events for Apple's benefit.

Maybe, maybe not. Even if Apple is getting something out of it beyond venue hire/exposure, if classes are being run and concerts are being staged, there will still be more things to do in the city and jobs created, some in construction, some ongoing. As I say, I'm no huge fan of Apple, but I'm just not yet convinced that this is an irredeemably bad thing.

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Solemn Sloth posted:

The jobs claim is the most spurious to me, since a large number are just construction, and the remainder are very unlikely to be full time. I’d like to see how many FTE ongoing jobs it’s going to provide.
Yeah I'm pretty dubious that it'll make 200 ongoing jobs, maybe half that even if they're just casuals?

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

How much is Apple paying you to shill for this?

G-Spot Run
Jun 28, 2005
More like powderfinger and spiderbait in between acdc and barnsey tracks I spose

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Anidav posted:

Former senator Lady Florence Bjelke-Petersen has died at 97 years of age.

Lady Bjelke-Petersen was the wife of Queensland's longest-serving Premier Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen.

Queensland goes into mourning for over a month, tearfully remembering the great times under Sir Joh's police state.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Lid posted:



"So, the taxpayer funded FM has decided that there’ll be no soundtrack for Australia Day. Let’s face it, that’s usually full of hipsters or kids making music on a Mac," the email reads.


None of that pro tools poo poo mate I only listen to music made on windows as god intended.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Anidav posted:

Former senator Lady Florence Bjelke-Petersen has died at 97 years of age.

Lady Bjelke-Petersen was the wife of Queensland's longest-serving Premier Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen.

Is she in hell?

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

Korgan posted:

Can't wait for a whole day's worth of Barnsey and Accadacca

Hey, dude, don't be selling them short.

There'll be some of Pink's worse songs in there. A few singles from Australian Idol runners-up (not the winners, though). Maybe even some Midnight Oil songs that none of the core listener base actually cares about the message of.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004


Love being reminded that Apple is doing this for the prestige of being next to the ACMI, a government funded museum.

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Cleretic posted:

Hey, dude, don't be selling them short.

There'll be some of Pink's worse songs in there. A few singles from Australian Idol runners-up (not the winners, though). Maybe even some Midnight Oil songs that none of the core listener base actually cares about the message of.
Shannon Noll's version of What About Me?

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Yes I think they are burying her in Queensland.

Whitlam
Aug 2, 2014

Some goons overreact. Go figure.

CrazyTolradi posted:

Shannon Noll's version of What About Me?

Maybe The Horses, although that may be more of a Triple J ironic thing.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Nah it'll be CHISELS and BARNSEY and JET and ESKIMO JOE and whatever the A/R person loving the DJ is into at the moment. Do they play much of Tina Arena, I haven't listened to them since Get This ended.

Paingod556
Nov 8, 2011

Not a problem, sir

Cleretic posted:

Hey, dude, don't be selling them short.

There'll be some of Pink's worse songs in there. A few singles from Australian Idol runners-up (not the winners, though). Maybe even some Midnight Oil songs that none of the core listener base actually cares about the message of.

"Welcome to Triple M, where zero fucks are given to whinging welfare cheat black fellas and their Invasion Day crap. And now, a double up of the Oils, Dead Heart and Beds are Burning."

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay
Let's vote Treaty to the top spot, everybody get on board

January 26 by A B Original for #2

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Oooh, apparently Musk's giant double a's stopped the lights from flickering last week when a coal generator fell over.

That's technically not in their list of obligations but it looks like it's set up to smooth anyway.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Resident Idiot posted:

Yeah, I think there might be more to this story - Centrelink have been more than happy to assess you as being in a relationship, even if it's a same sex one since 2009 (which is apparently now long enough to be a tradition) and actually being married or not doesn't have all that much to do with it. Same sex marriage has nothing to do with this.

Sounds like one of those weird edge cases:

quote:

The woman’s partner is not an Australian citizen or resident and lives overseas, and the couple does not share finances. The Tasmanian woman was claiming family tax benefits on the basis that she previously did not satisfy requirements to be classified as a de facto partnership. And yet, after she declared her 2016 overseas marriage after the legislation was passed, not only has Centrelink decided to retroactively recognise that marriage, but also nullify its own ruling that she did not satisfy the requirements of de facto status.

Seems pretty believable to me that Centrelink would say in that particular case they didn't meet the legal criteria to be listed as a de facto couple, until they started legally recognising the marriage.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Birdstrike posted:

Let's vote Treaty to the top spot, everybody get on board

January 26 by A B Original for #2
and the listeners wouldn't even get the irony

Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Korgan posted:

Can't wait for a whole day's worth of Barnsey and Accadacca

Some vintage Prussian Blue might get a look in I think...

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

MikeJF posted:

Oooh, apparently Musk's giant double a's stopped the lights from flickering last week when a coal generator fell over.

That's technically not in their list of obligations but it looks like it's set up to smooth anyway.

I think you'll find that this is politicaly correct fake news sjw bullshit, coal can not fail

cohsae
Jun 19, 2015

CrazyTolradi posted:

Yeah I'm pretty dubious that it'll make 200 ongoing jobs, maybe half that even if they're just casuals?

My dude have you ever seen how many people they have working in Apple stores?

Resident Idiot
May 11, 2007

Maxine13
Grimey Drawer

Senor Tron posted:

Sounds like one of those weird edge cases:


Seems pretty believable to me that Centrelink would say in that particular case they didn't meet the legal criteria to be listed as a de facto couple, until they started legally recognising the marriage.

Hmm. Family Tax Benefit uses the same rules as Social Security payments for this, and there's a pretty extensive policy writeup here:

http://guides.dss.gov.au/guide-social-security-law/2/2/5/50

where being married isn't an impediment on being treated as single if there's good reason for an exemption.

It's entirely possible if not probable somebody screwed up though, which would leave her on the hook for it.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE
Every time I go into an Apple store there are like 30 people in there. In addition to sales staff and tech support they run classes for different stuff. School groups go on excursions to Apple stores, and the kids do coding workshops and poo poo.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

https://twitter.com/davpope/status/943372948123017216

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



:lol: The NBN has become a complete and utter farce: https://www.nbnco.com.au/blog/connected-homes/whats-the-word-around-the-block-build-for-nbn.html

quote:

Powered by nbn, more and more home owners and renters are seeking a smart future. No wonder that The Block, Australia’s most watched reality TV show, is getting its latest contestants to build their properties fast broadband ready.

Now in its thirteenth season, the episode of The Block, which recently aired on October 4, introduced the nbn™ broadband access network.

Steve Wilson, an nbn Deployment Specialist who featured in the episode, reveals: “on the new series we’re connecting properties to the nbn™ access network in real-time and providing access via retail service providers.”

The work will allow contestants to connect to Wi-Fi in their respective houses, showcasing the benefits of fast broadband to thousands of TV viewers across the country.

A representative told nbn, “new homes provide the perfect environment to plan for the ideal tech solution, but you need to plan early so that nbn can ensure we design the right network solution in time for when residents move in or when you plan to sell.

Without an nbn™-powered plan, many of the smart devices being installed won’t have the necessary bandwidth to work to their full potential.”

Brown Paper Bag
Nov 3, 2012

Korgan posted:

Can't wait for a whole day's worth of Barnsey and Accadacca

Barnsey is woke these days so maybe he'll tell them not to play his stuff. That'd be hilarious

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

#ideasboom
College Slice

I worked for an ISP for years and still work in ICT, and let me tell you this is a loving load of Pissssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

And probably being paid for with tax dollars.

Chicken Parmigiana
Sep 12, 2007

Whitlam posted:

and it's the only one in the southern hemisphere, which means whether people like Apple or not, it'll be a tourist attraction

No it won't, and this is what I really don't get about the way this was announced. "That's right, Melbourne. Apple — yes, THAT Apple — are opening a rare Apple® Flagship Store® right here, Down Under, for we unworthy barbarians. And thanks to me, Daniel Andrews, they have chosen THIS VERY CITY as etc. etc." — as if anyone gives a poo poo about Apple anymore! It's not ten years ago. Everyone already has an iPhone, everyone has a complaint about whichever one they own, Apple isn't trendy anymore, they're just... around.

What I mean is, when I saw the headline, 'Fed Square building to be knocked down to make room for Apple Store', I genuinely thought it must be a joke. You might as well have said a Starbucks. It's ridiculous. Melbourne people like public spaces, they like Fed Square, they all own iPads, and none of them give a gently caress about Apple and Apple Stores and the Apple Store® Experience™. It's old news; no longer fashionable, exciting, or interesting, even for boring Australians who are excited by American brands just like on the telly.

I have my own reasons for hating this plan, many and varied, but I'm just trying to imagine the ordinary Melbournite-on-the-street's reaction to it, and I think Daniel Andrews tried to imagine the same thing, and I think he's misread the current public mood about Apple, like your mum trying to keep up with which cartoons you're into. I guess we'll see.

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MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




He didn't misread the public mood about Apple, he read the extremely large number waved in front of him by them.

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