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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I know it means very little but I'm glad that they couldn't finish this poo poo before the New Year. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/943543958730309633?s=17
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evilweasel posted:(since I doubt Congress will formally adjourn). Congress maintains like 3 people to quickly gavel in for a minute long session to sidestep it.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Frankly, I'd be more worried if Republicans had shown themselves to be more competent and united than they have this past year. They're not even competent at being evil, and that's their number one talent. But if they do start passing things regularly now, I'm afraid they might actually improve in the polls, even if the things they pass are horribly unpopular. Americans are stupid and will react positively to a legislature that just "gets things done".
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quote:Foreign Policy reported that the Special Counsel has obtained “records” that reveal McGahn in late January researched the consequences of lying to the FBI and of violating the Logan Act, a centuries-old federal prohibition on private citizens negotiating with hostile foreign governments. The research, conducted with the help of two aides, prompted McGahn to conclude that Flynn had likely committed a crime by discussing sanctions with a top Russian official during the transition, two current administration officials told Foreign Policy. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/mcgahn-trump-knew-flynn-probably-violated-law-in-january i don't even know why the gently caress the white house has a lawyer who doesn't have attorney-client privilege with the president but lol, good luck explaining away "well, my lawyer told me he committed a crime, that's why i asked the FBI to stop investigating him" evilweasel fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Dec 21, 2017 |
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Isn't it pocket-vetoed by that point if the bill passes today and they all go home? If so, and he signs it anyways, wouldn't people be able to sue over it? The GOP could just pass it again but that eats their one free "lets gently caress the country forever" 50 vote threshold for 2018 at the very least. Assuming the conservatives on the SCOTUS wouldn't just strike down any challenges on some bullshit excuse like the judiciary not being responsible for enforcing Congressional rules that happen to be in the Constitution. Or that the GOP never actually recess Congress any more because they're loving scum.
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Inferior Third Season posted:This tax bill shows they're finally figuring out how to enact their terrible agenda. If you'd asked me a year ago, I would have said major tax cuts for the rich and Obamacare repeal would have happened by April, so it could have been worse. They just used the one 50-vote bill they have, what the hell else could they pass?
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Your Boy Fancy posted:There's a dog who can't wait to meet you, and he loves you without knowing all the things you've done. This was a good post, but I wanted to point out this line cause it's so wonderful. 
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Evil Fluffy posted:Isn't it pocket-vetoed by that point if the bill passes today and they all go home? I believe that Democrats refuse to let the Senate formally adjourn (and the motion is filibusterable) so that Trump can't recess appoint anyone.
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Your Boy Fancy posted:Like, all bullshit aside, watch the anger. Anger is what's dictated the political landscape of my entire adult life to date. We were angry we'd been attacked during 2004. We were angry we'd been duped and the world had gone sideways in 08. We were angry people were trying to take out our favorite president in 2012. And we were angry at the whole stupid world in 2016, so we blew it up. In between those races, we were angry about Social Security in 06, angry that a black man was president in '10, angry that nobody had what they wanted in 14, and angry at the stress every waking moment had brought us this year. I hope you don't mind, I copied and pasted this as a reply to someone who was despondent about Trump. I sourced it to "someone on the SA forums"
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Inferior Third Season posted:This tax bill shows they're finally figuring out how to enact their terrible agenda. If you'd asked me a year ago, I would have said major tax cuts for the rich and Obamacare repeal would have happened by April, so it could have been worse. Nope. They get one shot per year at passing something with 50 votes via reconciliation in the Senate. Everything else will have the Democrats filibustering it unless their demands are met.
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evilweasel posted:
Though his signing will be unnecessary and just for show in that case, right? Since it'll become law before that anyway?
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Inferior Third Season posted:This tax bill shows they're finally figuring out how to enact their terrible agenda. If you'd asked me a year ago, I would have said major tax cuts for the rich and Obamacare repeal would have happened by April, so it could have been worse. Maybe, but I don't necessarily know about that. What they're doing is horrifically unpopular, and they don't seem to give a poo poo about being held accountable for what they're doing. If they bungle this CR as they look like they will, and continue not funding CHIP, they're going to suffer for it; even if they manage to get some things passed.
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Lycus posted:Though his signing will be irrelevant in that case, right? Since it'll become law before that anyway? yes, but it will be funny to mock the president failing to get his name on his only legislative achievement
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evilweasel posted:I believe that Democrats refuse to let the Senate formally adjourn (and the motion is filibusterable) so that Trump can't recess appoint anyone. Oh right, forgot about that. Trump probably has a giant loving list of conservative hacks to recess appoint if ever given the chance too. 
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Your Boy Fancy posted:Like, all bullshit aside, watch the anger. Anger is what's dictated the political landscape of my entire adult life to date. We were angry we'd been attacked during 2004. We were angry we'd been duped and the world had gone sideways in 08. We were angry people were trying to take out our favorite president in 2012. And we were angry at the whole stupid world in 2016, so we blew it up. In between those races, we were angry about Social Security in 06, angry that a black man was president in '10, angry that nobody had what they wanted in 14, and angry at the stress every waking moment had brought us this year. this is a good post man. you're a good dude. 
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Evil Fluffy posted:Oh right, forgot about that. Trump probably has a giant loving list of conservative hacks to recess appoint if ever given the chance too. The most significant concern would be firing Sessions and recess appointing someone who will fire Mueller, avoiding the whole ringamarole of firing everyone in the justice department until you land on a career trumpist.
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nwo hatchet man posted:Might as well give up now then instead of, you know, getting people elected who can enact change. I voted, and wow, I'm still gonna be poor as poo poo as that's all I can do. Still in a dead-end, still no where to go, but please hope!
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Hellblazer187 posted:I hope you don't mind, I copied and pasted this as a reply to someone who was despondent about Trump. I sourced it to "someone on the SA forums" Don't you feel bad giving this person hope only to later have it annhilated? This will only lead him to be more desponded down the road. His blood will be on your hand. pkay fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Dec 21, 2017 |
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https://twitter.com/Emma_Dumain/status/943625008001224704 So they can give away $1.5 trillion to corporations and the wealthy, but they can't manage to fund children's health insurance for more than a few months at a time. Disgusting.
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1stGear posted:So do I just need to cut off a toe to avoid getting drafted or do I need to go all the way to a finger Keep in mind this is coming from the Telegraph, so I'm not sure it's all that credible If they were planning something, I'm sure more mainstream sources such as the NYT and WaPo would be covering it
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pkay posted:Don't you feel bad giving this person hope only to later have it annhilated? This will only lead him to before desponded down the road. His blood will be on your hand. Everyone online is a man.
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Willo567 posted:Keep in mind this is coming from the Telegraph, so I'm not sure it's all that credible They’re *always* planning. That’s the entire point of like the entire pentagon. They have plans and backup plans and contingencies for everything People keep telling you to stop posting in this thread for a reason- please consider their advice
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Office Pig posted:You know I don’t necessarily agree with you on everything. This? This is the kind of crimson spirit I’ve lived my entire life learning to appreciate. Most of us just want to live our lives in peace. And I’ll be damned if anyone knows the best way to do that. You and me? All the weirdos in this thread? We agree on most everything. May as well be friends about it.
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/Emma_Dumain/status/943625008001224704 What poor kid has donated to their campaign fund lately?
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Your Boy Fancy posted:The tax cuts are reversible. There's a generation of amazing people who are angry enough to devote time and energy into running for office, and they're more left-wing than either of us. The sun will still rise in the morning, whether we like it or not. Somewhere in America, someone has an idea, and people are rallying to her side to make it happen. There's free workout videos on YouTube. The anger that's building in the rank and file of the country is what propels policy, and people are getting angry enough to smash what's currently in place. Someone is standing up to say "I can fix it" and everyone breathes a sigh of relief, because they were starting to think they'd have to stand up first. There's a dog who can't wait to meet you, and he loves you without knowing all the things you've done. There's a poster here who loves you, too, even though they've seen your posting history. That poster probably isn't even me! Not an empty quote
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Republicans: doing the barest minimum possible to get ahead of the P.R while the looting of the treasury for the richest 1% continues.
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Willo567 posted:Keep in mind this is coming from the Telegraph, so I'm not sure it's all that credible I hope when North Korea launches nukes your city goes first so our last 5 minutes on this thread aren't filled with you congratulating yourself.
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This feels like a long con but I can't quite figure out why: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-20/wells-fargo-fifth-third-unveil-minimum-wages-hike-bonus-payments-after-tax-reform-pa Large companies giving out bonuses and raising wages in response to the tax bill? I know AT&Ts was going to happen anyways, but what about the rest of them? Are they just trying to convince people that this time trickle-down economics will actually work?
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Your Boy Fancy posted:The tax cuts are reversible. There's a generation of amazing people who are angry enough to devote time and energy into running for office, and they're more left-wing than either of us. The sun will still rise in the morning, whether we like it or not. Somewhere in America, someone has an idea, and people are rallying to her side to make it happen. There's free workout videos on YouTube. The anger that's building in the rank and file of the country is what propels policy, and people are getting angry enough to smash what's currently in place. Someone is standing up to say "I can fix it" and everyone breathes a sigh of relief, because they were starting to think they'd have to stand up first. There's a dog who can't wait to meet you, and he loves you without knowing all the things you've done. There's a poster here who loves you, too, even though they've seen your posting history. That poster probably isn't even me! YBF, you're a godsend for the posters in this thread when "nothing matters" starts to become deafening in our souls.
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:This feels like a long con but I can't quite figure out why: Polishing a turd.
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Mummy Xzibit posted:I hope when North Korea launches nukes your city goes first so our last 5 minutes on this thread aren't filled with you congratulating yourself. Jokes on you the first will be shot down and the resulting EMP will knock out electrical grids across the US.
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Hellblazer187 posted:I hope you don't mind, I copied and pasted this as a reply to someone who was despondent about Trump. I sourced it to "someone on the SA forums" Same. I keep my friends up to date on the news largely through what's shared here, and this is the sort of thing I needed to hear, at least. Thank you very much, Fancy. You rock.
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https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/943595907353927680 This bill is shaping up to be a massive win for the country
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pkay posted:Jokes on you the first will be shot down and the resulting EMP will knock out electrical grids across the US. Inshallah, as long as we don't have to see his posts.
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Mummy Xzibit posted:YBF, you're a godsend for the posters in this thread when "nothing matters" starts to become deafening in our souls. But nothing matters. Just look, Trump just gutted the ACA and got tax cuts in one single bill. It's almost like the battle over the ACA repeal didn't matter. And it didnt because nothing matters.
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Your Boy Fancy posted:Most of us just want to live our lives in peace. And I’ll be damned if anyone knows the best way to do that. You and me? All the weirdos in this thread? We agree on most everything. May as well be friends about it.
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pkay posted:But nothing matters. Just look, Trump just gutted the ACA and got tax cuts in one single bill. It's almost like the battle over the ACA repeal didn't matter. And it didnt because nothing matters. Employer mandate still exists and medicaid for all isn't a pipe dream on the coattails of a blue wave. And this was the Republican shot at reconciliation for 2018. What are they supposed to do after this legislatively? They were gonna pass something at some point, it's not like the end of the year was the cutoff. All things considered there are far worse timelines. Edit: Essentially, it could always be better, it could always be worse. What matters is what happens going forward. Even if nothing matters in a universal sense, things very, very much matter here and now in our society and country. Zisky fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Dec 21, 2017 |
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:This feels like a long con but I can't quite figure out why: Upthread a bit, the giveaway stems from a concession to union workers. CWA is basically having their hard-fought gain whitewashed.
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