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Atlas Air also has a small fleet of N-registered passenger 747s for charter work. Mostly military - join up and maybe you can fly on one!
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Lame, we got moved on a 737 that had to stop three loving times for gas.
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So this UFO stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqNNXpgB2bw Isn't that just a splat of something on the sensor? It doesn't change aspect even though it's traversing across the field of view and when it rotates it looks exactly like a smudge on the glass with the sensor pod head gimbaling behind it.
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Dec 19, 2017 09:50
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The other Peacemaker: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairchild_AU-23_Peacemaker It is not as big as the B-36. Also, Sharkmouth.
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Dec 19, 2017 23:00
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Ola posted:So this UFO stuff. Didn’t two planes see it?
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Dec 19, 2017 23:02
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Dunkirk is out in blu ray and has some very cool special features covering the production. Particularly the aerial stuff is cool as hell. They modified the hell out of a Yak-52 for the Spitfire shots.
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Dec 20, 2017 02:48
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Ola posted:So this UFO stuff.
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slidebite posted:Do we know for a fact that's legit, undoctered footage with the real coms? It came straight from the DOD, so yes or no or maybe. And pilots swore they saw it visually.
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Dec 20, 2017 03:00
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Even if it is undoctored footage, let's be honest, you really can't see anything in that video.
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Dec 20, 2017 03:02
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Just saw this on Space.com, which is citing the NYT as the primary source which gives some legitimacy, or at least I don't think it should be discarded on its face. The problem is 95+% of people think UFO=space aliens and that's certainly the angle news sites want to play. It isn't an exaggeration that any answer but space aliens is far more likely to be correct. It's also entirely possible we'll never know what any single UFO incident is with any certainty but that doesn't mean it's alien or supernatural. Disclosure: I am pretty convinced that there has to be alien life outside our solar system just based on sheer size of the galaxy, let alone universe, but I am not nearly convinced any of them are, or realistically can, drop by for a visit. Would be cool as hell of they could though.
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hobbesmaster posted:Didn’t two planes see it? Maybe. Still. The Drake equation is fascinating, but you need to add many chance-decreasing factors before you get to aliens flying inside our atmosphere, undetected on approach but detectable by video cameras, yet only recorded by grainy ones in ways which look exactly like a huge number of hoaxes and misunderstandings. So I'm not convinced in the slightest, even though 2017 could really do with the discovery of extra terrestrial life to balance out the other news. I'm more captivated by the idea that that oblong interstellar asteroid (or comet with radiation-seared surface) was the burnt out hull of a battleship defeated in space combat hundreds of millions of years ago.
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Dec 20, 2017 10:18
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Ola posted:I'm more captivated by the idea that that oblong interstellar asteroid (or comet with radiation-seared surface) was the burnt out hull of a battleship defeated in space combat hundreds of millions of years ago.
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Dec 20, 2017 14:17
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Comrade Gorbash posted:It's a shame they didn't name it Rama. For real, how they named it anything else I have no idea.
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Dec 20, 2017 14:29
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It looks like a god’s turd.
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Dec 20, 2017 21:24
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Ola posted:Maybe. Still. The Drake equation is fascinating, but you need to add many chance-decreasing factors before you get to aliens flying inside our atmosphere, undetected on approach but detectable by video cameras, yet only recorded by grainy ones in ways which look exactly like a huge number of hoaxes and misunderstandings. So I'm not convinced in the slightest, even though 2017 could really do with the discovery of extra terrestrial life to balance out the other news. I don’t think it’s aliens as fun as it is to joke about it on the internet. There’s a ton of wacky, rare atmospheric phenomenon we don’t understand because it’s hard to catch on camera. Just as an example ball lightning wasn’t caught on good equipment until a couple of years ago (it was a very hot sphere of vaporized silicon from the soil). Between ball lightning and the rarer upper atmosphere lightning phenomena like sprites, blue jets and the like probably cover a lot of UFOs. I’m a fan of the “atmospheric maser “ ball lightning theory myself.. It’s more likely than aliens!
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Dec 20, 2017 21:33
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Nebakenezzer posted:The other Peacemaker: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairchild_AU-23_Peacemaker "Armed gunship, counter-insurgency, utility transport" Did Motormax put the wrong plane in the box?
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R-Type posted:"Armed gunship, counter-insurgency, utility transport" *somewhere in the Pentagon, early 70s* “What do you mean you can’t put a 20mm cannon on a Cessna 180” “...well, to start it doesn’t have enough engine power...” “Fine. A turboprop Pilotus it is then!”
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hobbesmaster posted:*somewhere in the Pentagon, early 70s*  iraqi air force
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The caravan is much more recent. Same idea though.
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Dec 20, 2017 22:43
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Didn't the Iraqi Air Force's Combat Caravan get shot down after only a month?
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a patagonian cavy posted:
Got to see one of those in the flesh a few years back, as well as the system to turn a C-27 into a pocket-gunship.
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Dec 21, 2017 05:12
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Ola posted:So this UFO stuff. quote:"Well, we’ve got a real-world vector for you,” replied the USS Princeton’s radio operator. According to the Times:
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Dec 21, 2017 05:23
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I, too, have had a radar start generating a bunch of insane returns. However, my reaction was less "holy poo poo, it's aliens" and more "gently caress, I need to reset the detector processor". My absolute favorite part of UFO stories is how people treat radar systems as this utterly infallible truth data, as opposed to an antiquated computer system doing its best effort to decipher a ridiculous mishmash of EM signals bouncing all over the place.
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Dec 21, 2017 05:52
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It wasn't uncommon for us to have spurious radar returns displayed with an altitude of -10 (-100 ft), which of course makes no sense. The running joke was that we were detecting submarines again. No, it didn't matter that half the time we were in Nevada or Georgia or Arizona.
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Dec 21, 2017 06:51
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Godholio posted:It wasn't uncommon for us to have spurious radar returns displayed with an altitude of -10 (-100 ft), which of course makes no sense. The running joke was that we were detecting submarines again. No, it didn't matter that half the time we were in Nevada or Georgia or Arizona. Hey, it does happen http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a26598/c-130-sea-level-dead-sea/ (Please excuse the popular mechanics link)
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Godholio posted:It wasn't uncommon for us to have spurious radar returns displayed with an altitude of -10 (-100 ft), which of course makes no sense. The running joke was that we were detecting submarines again. No, it didn't matter that half the time we were in Nevada or Georgia or Arizona. As someone who’s plumbed the depths of radars that you may or may not have used, it’s a goddamned miracle they work as well as they do. They’re great on paper, but the real world is a very, very, messy place...
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Dec 21, 2017 09:50
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We had one guy so hopped up on UFO theories that he jeopardized his clearance trying to analyze spurious radar returns that weren’t his job. Ducting does weird poo poo.
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Dec 21, 2017 14:48
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It’s not so much that the radar saw it, it’s that the craft was confirmed on the FLIR pod.
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Godholio posted:It wasn't uncommon for us to have spurious radar returns displayed with an altitude of -10 (-100 ft), which of course makes no sense. The running joke was that we were detecting submarines again. No, it didn't matter that half the time we were in Nevada or Georgia or Arizona. Under certain circumstances, civilian controllers are obligated to call traffic, regardless of what the respective mode-C readouts are. I take great pleasure in the idiocy of our traffic phraseology when I have to call a target that is showing a negative altitude. It is confusing to the pilots 100% of the time, but we're still required to do it. 
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thesurlyspringKAA posted:It’s not so much that the radar saw it, it’s that the craft was confirmed on the FLIR pod. But the thing on the FLIR pod is just a blotch that seems to rotate in sync with the pod head. No film of it creating wake in the sea and then soaring to the sky.
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Captain Postal posted:Hey, it does happen  As soon as I started reading, I knew all their poo poo would stop working because of course it would.movax posted:As someone who’s plumbed the depths of radars that you may or may not have used, it’s a goddamned miracle they work as well as they do. They’re great on paper, but the real world is a very, very, messy place... Agreed. Simple in concept, wizardry in implementation.
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Captain Postal posted:Hey, it does happen I love that they thought to make it work down to -400ft because the lowest airfield in the US is at -200, but they didn't think to just push that slightly further to cover the whole earth.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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cowboy elvis posted:Dunkirk is out in blu ray and has some very cool special features covering the production. Particularly the aerial stuff is cool as hell. They modified the hell out of a Yak-52 for the Spitfire shots.     yup Also this   And these  
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Dec 21, 2017 22:16
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"We've got this big expensive camera rigged up to the tail of an airplane, but how do we keep the lens dry?" "Just wrap a garbage bag over it"
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Wingnut Ninja posted:I, too, have had a radar start generating a bunch of insane returns. However, my reaction was less "holy poo poo, it's aliens" and more "gently caress, I need to reset the detector processor". ONE WEIRD TRICK TO FOOL THE APS-145 RADAR Sea State > 1
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Somewhere out at Groom Lake, some secret squirrel test or operational squadron is showing that video up in their ready room and pissing themselves laughing.
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Honestly, that remains the best argument for why the video means literally nothing. If it was super serious poo poo, it wouldn't have been so deliberately released. Or maybe I'm the guy being laughed at by the people with mega-double-super-reptile-secret clearances as they zip about in their hypersonic egg-ships.
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dupersaurus posted:"We've got this big expensive camera rigged up to the tail of an airplane, but how do we keep the lens dry?" You've clearly never been around a film crew. Tape and plastic, instant weatherproofing. That was before we ripped a hole for the lens element and taped that too.
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