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pseudorandom name posted:Weren't The Martian and Wool self-published? I believe both were eventually picked up by real publishers.
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Dec 20, 2017 21:26
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pseudorandom name posted:Weren't The Martian and Wool self-published? I mean statistically speaking there's bound to be a tiny percentage of self published books that are worth reading. That doesn't mean we want to be buried under RPGLit or man-tiger hybrids that gently caress space-vampires in the quest for quality. Let a "self published" thread wade through the miles of poo poo to uncover the one or two dry patches of land they happen to stumble across.
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Dec 20, 2017 21:27
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Perhaps I should ask this a different way: is there anyone who's a fan of that stuff who is willing to start up a separate thread for it?
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Dec 20, 2017 21:30
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Proteus Jones posted:God yes. And I nominate BravestOfTheLamps for the task.
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Dec 20, 2017 21:32
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Perhaps I should ask this a different way: is there anyone who's a fan of that stuff who is willing to start up a separate thread for it? I can do it, as a brave veteran of the Kindle Unlimited trenches.
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Dec 20, 2017 21:45
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Serious question: do we need to split the self published crap off into a separate thread It seems cyclical and therefore manageable. But if it sustains itself enough to be a constant toothache rather than an intermittent diversion I’d vote yes.
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Dec 20, 2017 22:28
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Isn't a ton of RPGlit trad published though? Which is what more people have been complaining about. That poo poo could definitely stand to be quarantined in its own thread. I mean, there's garbage SFF, but that poo poo is like the maggots feeding on the garbage.
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Dec 20, 2017 23:27
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Stuporstar posted:Isn't a ton of RPGlit trad published though? Which is what more people have been complaining about. That poo poo could definitely stand to be quarantined in its own thread. I mean, there's garbage SFF, but that poo poo is like the maggots feeding on the garbage. Great, another offshoot thread where no one will post because there's only like 4 of us with low enough standards to read this stuff.
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Dec 21, 2017 01:10
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Reign as kings on the 2nd or 3rd page of the TBB subforum, rather than pariah's here.
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Dec 21, 2017 01:49
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Victorkm posted:Great, another offshoot thread where no one will post because there's only like 4 of us with low enough standards to read this stuff. You could just do it on, heh, Reddit.
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Dec 21, 2017 02:01
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Proteus Jones posted:God yes.
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Dec 21, 2017 02:14
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ShinsoBEAM! posted:I can do it, as a brave veteran of the Kindle Unlimited trenches. Please do. Maybe it'll draw off the traffic from here or maybe it'll just die on its own, I dunno. I see the humor value in those posts but there's a nails-on-chalkboard quality to them also.
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Dec 21, 2017 02:43
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Not to get all Lampsy but are those litrpg things really that much worse than some of the other stuff that gets posted here.
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Dec 21, 2017 04:56
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fritz posted:Not to get all Lampsy but are those litrpg things really that much worse than some of the other stuff that gets posted here. yes besides it's important to have a bright line test and "published by an actual publisher" is a convenient bright line, at least for now before Amazon replaces all publishers or wait some of those litrpg books are probably published by real publishers aren't they point being, I'm turning and turning in the widening gyre here
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Dec 21, 2017 05:06
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There is already a "PYF horrible book" in , unsurprisingly, PYF.
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Dec 21, 2017 05:15
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 Terra Ignota Book 3, The Will To Battle, (series started with Too Like The Lightning) is out I might like it better than book 2. I was a big drat sucker for the parliamentary stuff and intrigue stuff, though. also she fairly early on in this one says what Terra Ignota means (Narrator: "Hey, that's the name of the series!"), for Latin-illiterates
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Dec 21, 2017 05:29
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:There is already a "PYF horrible book" in , unsurprisingly, PYF. Theoretically we could move most of this forum into PYF.
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Dec 21, 2017 05:36
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Theoretically we could move most of this forum into PYF. Thank you.
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Dec 21, 2017 06:22
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GreyjoyBastard posted:
I'm in the middle of book 2 so that's Christmas sorted. 
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Dec 21, 2017 08:18
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:yes In the music forum, there is one thread for metal, one for doom metal, one for death core and one for punk and probably more. All I am saying there is precedence for genre separations. Especially given there is already one thread for space opera and one for GW stuff, all of which could arguably be merged into this thread. Please don't do this
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Dec 21, 2017 08:49
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Madeleine L'Engle's "A Wrinkle in Time" is a great sci-fi book that is well worth re-reading
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Dec 21, 2017 14:42
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GreyjoyBastard posted:
Is there any kind of resolution or does it just leave everything open for the (concluding??) last book?
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Dec 21, 2017 22:58
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A3th3r posted:Madeleine L'Engle's "A Wrinkle in Time" is a great sci-fi book that is well worth re-reading It's been about a decade since I last reread it, and with the movie coming out it's about time for another. It was my favorite book as a child.
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Dec 21, 2017 23:35
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uberkeyzer posted:Is there any kind of resolution or does it just leave everything open for the (concluding??) last book? Ending spoiler, obviously: The war doesn't start until the end, so no. I still loved it, it's all about the politics of a world about to explode, but the conclusion is the nature of how the war finally kicks off. Short answer: it's arguably even less adequately concluded as a single book than TLtL. Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Dec 22, 2017 |
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Dec 22, 2017 00:42
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Short answer: it's arguably even less adequately concluded as a single book than TLtL. That's... impressive.
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Dec 22, 2017 01:35
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Still, she's nailing all her deadlines, it looks like, so whatever really, I can deal with some books that end on commas if they don't have multiple years and broken promises between them.
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Dec 22, 2017 04:45
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Does anyone have a book recommendation that deals with monkey's paw-like consequences? Maybe something like a society unearths ancient technology and thinks it's a boon but spends an entire book dealing with unforeseen consequences?
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Dec 22, 2017 05:17
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Xtanstic posted:Does anyone have a book recommendation that deals with monkey's paw-like consequences? Maybe something like a society unearths ancient technology and thinks it's a boon but spends an entire book dealing with unforeseen consequences? Black Company. "Oh we're doomed if we can't get out of this contract... Oh poo poo."
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Dec 22, 2017 05:45
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Xtanstic posted:Does anyone have a book recommendation that deals with monkey's paw-like consequences? Maybe something like a society unearths ancient technology and thinks it's a boon but spends an entire book dealing with unforeseen consequences? Tuf Voyaging springs to mind. (Pre-fame George R R Martin)
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Dec 22, 2017 08:12
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Thranguy posted:Tuf Voyaging springs to mind. (Pre-fame George R R Martin)
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Dec 22, 2017 08:24
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End of the year time! Looking back on the sci-fi I've read in 2017 the only thing that really stood out to me was Ian McDonald's two Luna books - a trilogy with book three not yet released. Really great Game of Thrones style series with corporate dynasties clashing on the moon, fantastic descriptive work (I think he's the best prose stylist in contemporary sci-fi), and some awesome setpieces which have really visually stuck in my mind. Lucas making his unprotected moondash in his fancy suit and leather shoes, the killer robots getting unleashed on the populace in the second book, Lucasinho and his little sister fleeing across the surface during the confusion of the civil war and him having to step up and be the adult.) What's the best SFF book you read this year?
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Dec 22, 2017 10:06
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freebooter posted:What's the best SFF book you read this year? That I read for the first time this year? Probably KSR's Aurora. That came out this year? Hrm, Maybe Brust's Vallista?
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Dec 22, 2017 10:13
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Khizan posted:That I read for the first time this year? Probably KSR's Aurora. That would be my #1 the year I read it, for sure. It has its flaws and detractors, and I get that, but loving hell - that moment when the ship is flying towards the sun? "Meaning is the hard problem." That means nothing to someone who hasn't read the book, but in the context of what's happening: that, right there, I think is one of the most affective things I've ever read in sci-fi.
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freebooter posted:End of the year time! Looking back on the sci-fi I've read in 2017 the only thing that really stood out to me was Ian McDonald's two Luna books - a trilogy with book three not yet released. Really great Game of Thrones style series with corporate dynasties clashing on the moon, fantastic descriptive work (I think he's the best prose stylist in contemporary sci-fi), and some awesome setpieces which have really visually stuck in my mind. Lucas making his unprotected moondash in his fancy suit and leather shoes, the killer robots getting unleashed on the populace in the second book, Lucasinho and his little sister fleeing across the surface during the confusion of the civil war and him having to step up and be the adult.) For the first time this year -- well, I finally got around to trying Lois McMaster Bujold and I'm quite enjoying it. Still working my way through the Vorkosigan books. Also, G. Willow Wilson's Alif the Unseen, Matt Ruff's Lovecraft Country, and the Southern Reach trilogy.
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Dec 22, 2017 18:56
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anilEhilated posted:Mind you, that's more concerned with the intergalactic weirdo ex machina that unfucks the abovementioned situations. Still an excellent read and easily my favorite thing GRRM has ever written. Sometimes he doesn't though. Sometimes he does exactly as his clients request and leaves them to the fate that their decisions engender.
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Dec 22, 2017 19:27
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Xtanstic posted:Does anyone have a book recommendation that deals with monkey's paw-like consequences? Maybe something like a society unearths ancient technology and thinks it's a boon but spends an entire book dealing with unforeseen consequences? Ship of Fools is largely this. Arguably some of the advances made in KSR's Mars trilogy end up having long term catastrophic consequences for a lot of people. Accelerando to some degree--humanity is not ultimately pleased with what it wrought, also Singularity Sky, and Stross's short story A Colder War fits the bill. Also a couple Thomas Disch short stories but I can't recall the title for those, but both in Fun With Your New Head which is a great collection overall. Oh, and Roadside Picnic of course. Also I suppose a lot of time travel stories where something is set wrong at the beginning and the rest of the story is just trying to get back to square one.
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Dec 22, 2017 20:18
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The second Alex Verus novel contains a literal monkey's paw, but the antagonist picks it up, not the protagonist.
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Dec 22, 2017 20:30
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freebooter posted:What's the best SFF book you read this year? Zachary Mason's Void Star. Really good modern cyber-punk.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The second Alex Verus novel contains a literal monkey's paw, but the antagonist picks it up, not the protagonist. This turns out way cooler than it had any right to.
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