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CelticPredator posted:TLJ is better than 80% of all Star Wars movies. The acting was good, there was some actual drama, and it was occasionally funny, so this more or less checks out relative to the franchise.
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aBagorn posted:By this metric, it’s the second best Star Wars movie, and I’m inclined to not argue Ok 70%.
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Dec 22, 2017 22:32
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Though my list would go Empire, TLJ and then A New Hope. So
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Vox Nihili posted:I am glad you were able to enjoy that scene, our world needs more childlike wonderment. I know you're being facetious but I think if you're going into an episode of Star Wars without that then you're probably always going to be disappointed.
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Dec 22, 2017 22:34
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CelticPredator posted:TLJ is better than 80% of all Star Wars movies. It's not even top 3. OT reigns supreme. I did like it better than the PT though, even if PT had some better ideas (but worse execution). It's on par with rogue one. In fact it's similar in its blandness and how its too afraid to follow through on its themes. TFA, of course, is dead last. I'd even put Holiday special ahead of that garbage.
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Dec 22, 2017 22:38
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AndyElusive posted:I know you're being facetious but I think if you're going into an episode of Star Wars without that then you're probably always going to be disappointed. Meesa think so too! Okie-day!
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Dec 22, 2017 22:47
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Return of the Jedi sucks except for one scene.
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Kevin Palpatine posted:Meesa think so too! Okie-day! Blurublurublu! Be gone weesa you!
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Young Freud posted:Why do you think people wanting detailed backstories of "mysterious" characters like Phasma and Snoke and irritated at their loss, instead of realizing their pompous, arrogant one-pump chumps? Explaining Snoke's backstory would help explain things like how the First Order came into being, what happened in between RotJ and TFA, and what the state of the galaxy is.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Explaining Snoke's backstory would help explain things like how the First Order came into being, what happened in between RotJ and TFA, and what the state of the galaxy is. You know. There didn't need to be a scene in the movie even. Just an extra paragraph in the opening crawl would have been fine. Another amusing anecdote: my group is now running with the alternate character interpretation that BB-8 is a psycho murderbot like hk-47 But no one realizes it because they can't hear the inflections in beep language. This improves the already pretty good TLJ significantly. Edit: I mean the opening crawl of TFA not TLJ because complaints about how the FO came to be are really about that movie not so much this one. BardoTheConsumer fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Dec 22, 2017 |
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Dec 22, 2017 23:05
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b-minus1 posted:except that was actually an amusing one liner and didn't actually take you out of the moment, unlike the ones in the last jedi It didn't take me out of the moment. He was loving with them over comms for 30 seconds while his *whatever* charged up. It isn't a super-far fetched idea.
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BardoTheConsumer posted:I like phasma a lot more in this movie than TFA, that's for sure. Yeah she got dunked on anticlimactically by Finn but unlike her mentor boba fett she got a moment of being a real threat first. I feel like they could be using Gwendoline Christie a lot better than they have. They could even build Phasma as some kind of credible threat by hanging around with Kylo. But she's probably gonna return in the next part just to get clowned again.
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TeaJay posted:I feel like they could be using Gwendoline Christie a lot better than they have. They could even build Phasma as some kind of credible threat by hanging around with Kylo. But she's probably gonna return in the next part just to get clowned again. Oh I absolutely agree. I was just saying this was a baby step in the right direction.
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b-minus1 posted:lol ok. poe made a "your mom" joke in a star wars movie. There is "your mom" jokes in the bible
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CelticPredator posted:Return of the Jedi sucks except for one scene. Return of the Jedi is better than A New Hope  (So is Phantom Menace  )
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Holdo is a boring poo poo one-off character who the movie sets you up to dislike and distrust, only to pull a "gotcha" that validated her and made the casino arc completely pointless. This is the worst way to do a "twist" in movies imo.
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The only good Star Wars movie is a dead Star Wars movie.
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Dec 22, 2017 23:37
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If they follow the action hero fantasy themes they havn't used it, there needs to be a slave rebellion lead by Finn. Phasma comes back and her getting killed again will solidify the rebellion.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:There is "your mom" jokes in the bible And Shakespeare! CHIRON: Thou hast undone our mother. AARON: Villain, I have done thy mother.
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I think Johnson made a pretty good movie but I think it’s unfortunate that he had to start in the middle of this trilogy. Excited to see what he delivers with a clean slate and with new characters that nobody has attachments to. I was hyped when they announced his involvement because I’ve been keeping my eye on him since Brick and I know he’s got some more great movies in him. I still believe he’s the best man for the job going forward.
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AwwJeah posted:I think Johnson made a pretty good movie but I think it’s unfortunate that he had to start in the middle of this trilogy. Excited to see what he delivers with a clean slate and with new characters that nobody has attachments to. I was hyped when they announced his involvement because I’ve been keeping my eye on him since Brick and I know he’s got some more great movies in him. I still believe he’s the best man for the job going forward. Yeah, I agree with this. I hope the reaction to this movie doesnt make them overly wary of what he wants to do, or even that the reaction doesnt make him do that to himself.
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R. Guyovich posted:Anyone else notice Dunkirk was the movie Rogue One should have been? lol hey man, Tarantino is directing a R-rated Star Trek, so anything is possible under the reign of #MAGA
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Comstar posted:If they follow the action hero fantasy themes they havn't used it, there needs to be a slave rebellion lead by Finn. Phasma comes back and her getting killed again will solidify the rebellion. I know that TLJ was all about killing our stupid nerd theories, but Finn leading a stormtrooper rebellion in EP9 was always my dumb nerd theory. Now that he's killed Phasma, maybe they can work that into the mythology of Finn. Finn Chromekiller: the Scum that Stood.
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Angry Salami posted:So, talking about Snoke. I didn't like Snoke in TFA, wasn't impressed by him at all, he's goofy looking and has a stupid name. All the fan theories about his origin just came across as totally idiotic, and I'm quite happy to learn he was just a prop to set things up and can now be discarded. This is actually one of the best thought out and well-intended critiques I've read yet in this thread. You're absolutely right. It makes the whole Luke-Kylo dynamic feel empty to a certain degree. Much left to be desired. And before someone tells me to check out the new EU stuff that will explain it all, just go gently caress yourself because I'm not reading some companion bullshit. If it isn't in the films, it's dead to me.
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:I know that TLJ was all about killing our stupid nerd theories, but Finn leading a stormtrooper rebellion in EP9 was always my dumb nerd theory. Now that he's killed Phasma, maybe they can work that into the mythology of Finn. This is the first theory in a long time that I've read and actually liked.
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I didn't like Episode VII because it was basically a New Hope with new characters. For that reason I like this movie immsenly better. The only thing that I wish was there was something different about the huge Empire/First Order vs the resistance/rebels. The resistance beat the Empire, I don't understand why they didn't try to make things a bit different with the imbalance in power between the two sides. Could have been way more interesting I think if it was a true war like Clone Wars. Also, lol at all the fan fiction about Snoke
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If we’re moving on to the ranking section of the discussion it’s ESB > ANH > ROTJ > TLJ > TFA > TPM > RotS > AotC
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trash person posted:If we’re moving on to the ranking section of the discussion it’s ESB->ANH->TLJ->ROTJ->TFA->R1->TPM->ROTS->AOTC for me, but only because the special editions are now canon because I'm never gonna get to see the theatrical cut again.
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Are you ranking quality or how much you liked the movie ?
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euphronius posted:Are you ranking quality or how much you liked the movie ? I am unable to parse this question because i dont see a difference between those two things. Or I refuse to see one.
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Quality is objective, enjoyment is subjective
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euphronius posted:Quality is objective, enjoyment is subjective Well in that case I guess I'm ranking objectively but my subjective enjoyment follows the same formula.
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Now that the numbers are indicating that word of mouth is hurting this film in a big way (see http://bit.ly/2Dx2vmi), who wants to start taking bets on how long before Disney makes Rian Johnson "part amicably" from his spinoff trilogy project?
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Ranking for enjoyment: ESB > ANH > TFA > TLJ > ROTJ > ROTS > TPM > AOTC Ranking for quality: ESB > ANH > ROTJ > TLJ > TFA > TPM > ROTS > AOTC Ranking by first impression* ROTJ > ANH > TFA > ESB > TLJ > ROTS > TPM > AOTC * I was really young -- probably 6 or so -- when I watched the OT, and ESB was scary and dark, so I didn't really like it at first. And ROTJ was awesome because the good guy wins in the end and Ewoks were cute af. The only constant is that AOTC was pure garbage, made of poo poo and piss.
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PT6A posted:Ranking for enjoyment: AOTC was the best of the prequel trilogy. Rogue One is the only good movie outside of the OT with TLJ well behind ESB ROTJ (they need to be watched together) ANH R1 TLJ TFA AOTC TPM ROTS
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Oh yeah, I forgot about Rogue One. For enjoyment, I'd put it just behind TLJ, for quality I'd put it just in front of TLJ. Attack of the Clones was poo poo because it failed technically, the story was a bunch of meandering bullshit that no one cares about, and it wasn't even fun to watch. And that diner... that loving diner... ROTS was also extremely flawed, but at least the story seemed to have a point and it wasn't a complete abortion in terms of execution. PT6A fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Dec 23, 2017 |
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For me, the best part about the Mr. Plinkett review of TPM (aside from the fact that it was goddamn hilarious) was that TPM was the best of the prequels in terms of execution and story. And it still gets absolutely shredded in the most humorous way possible. edit: his reviews of AOTC and ROTS weren't as spectacular imo, even considering the increase in production value
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mastershakeman posted:why do you say his physique is unusual? he just looks like a guy who works out a ton that's quite ugly and has terrible hair he has a long torso
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:There is "your mom" jokes in the bible More importantly, there's a 'your mom' joke in Shakespeare. A pretty goddamn brutal one too.
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