Speaking of Cold Waters, is it worth 40 dollars?
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 06:54 |
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# ? Jun 1, 2024 04:03 |
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War in the East is on sale for $24. Should I pick it up? Will I regret it if I don't? Is DC:B a better version of WitE?
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 06:57 |
COOL CORN posted:War in the East is on sale for $24. Should I pick it up? Will I regret it if I don't? That's a good price for WitE. Both are great games. Part of the allure of WitE is if you play it long enough to watch your troops totally swap roles in different seasons and years. The game plays totally differently in January 1944 than it does in August 1941. DC:B has the decision system and it's totally unique and a lot of fun. On the downside you've only got Barbarossa. WitE
DC : B
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 13:10 |
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Man, I'm reading Ian Toll's Pacific war trilogy, so I've been on a huge Pacific kick lately. Are there any good grog Pacific games that are a little lighter in scale than WitP? As much as I've tried - and am a lifelong fanboi of the Eastern front - WitE's mechanics have never really clicked for me and I fear WitP would fall into the same category. Does something like a WitP Lite exist?
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 15:33 |
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Gewehr 43 posted:Man, I'm reading Ian Toll's Pacific war trilogy, so I've been on a huge Pacific kick lately. Are there any good grog Pacific games that are a little lighter in scale than WitP? As much as I've tried - and am a lifelong fanboi of the Eastern front - WitE's mechanics have never really clicked for me and I fear WitP would fall into the same category. Does something like a WitP Lite exist? I guess it's not that groggy really but I like Order of Battle
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 15:37 |
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Order of Battle is basically a rejiggered Panzer Corps, but it's probably the best Pacific Theater strategy game you'll get outside of uber-groggy stuff like WitP or broken insane messes like Pacific Storm. What I really want to see is an expansion for the new Strategic Command that covers the Asia-Pacific Theater, like the old SC series eventually did (with mixed success).
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 15:46 |
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Yooper posted:I'm looking for an example of a "good" grog manual. Or even any detailed game with a well laid out, easy to use, manual. I can think of lots of not good ones, especially for board games, but I'm having a hard time thinking of a really awesome one. If board games count then I think all GMT manuals are really good. Both for explaining the game and for use as a reference when you're not quite fully remembering a rule. They're all available on their (hilariously groggy) website, too.
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 16:13 |
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ASL has a Pacific module. Not sure how accessible it is, but the basic rules are fairly easy to grasp, imo.
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 16:54 |
Orange Devil posted:If board games count then I think all GMT manuals are really good. Both for explaining the game and for use as a reference when you're not quite fully remembering a rule. I've got a bunch, and yes, some are great. GMT writes a very precise manual, though not always eye candy.
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 17:08 |
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Jobbo_Fett posted:ASL lol
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 17:39 |
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ASL is at least more accessible than AGEOD and WITW's air war
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 17:43 |
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Gewehr 43 posted:Man, I'm reading Ian Toll's Pacific war trilogy, so I've been on a huge Pacific kick lately. Are there any good grog Pacific games that are a little lighter in scale than WitP? As much as I've tried - and am a lifelong fanboi of the Eastern front - WitE's mechanics have never really clicked for me and I fear WitP would fall into the same category. Does something like a WitP Lite exist? You could get WiTP but just play the smaller scenarios, where you don't have to worry about production, oil, pilot training etc
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 17:43 |
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Thanks for the recommendations, guys. It's got an interesting sales model... free demo into which near limitless DLC plug. I guess that's okay as it'll allow me to pick and choose what campaigns I want to play with. Reviews are mixed on steam. Any good feedback for a guy who was kinda lost in the finer nuances of WitE?
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 17:44 |
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oh yeah Pacific General is on GOG, you might want to. check that out too
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 17:53 |
skooma512 posted:Speaking of Cold Waters, is it worth 40 dollars? I bought it at release and refunded it. Maybe they have made an effort since then though.
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 23:13 |
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skooma512 posted:Speaking of Cold Waters, is it worth 40 dollars? Most definitely. It's not a normal kind of sub sim, it's more hands on in the control of the sub and more hands off on every other aspect. Feels significantly more satisfying that way IMHO, though your mileage may vary. Significantly improved with each patch too, with plenty of post launch support scheduled.
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# ? Dec 22, 2017 23:22 |
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Fired up Command Ops 2 to try and learn it. Loaded up the tutorial scenario and, standard to this loving genre, there's nothing beyond that. So I opened the manual to find the tutorial to follow along with and it doesn't loving exist. Where the gently caress is the tutorial for this loving game?
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# ? Dec 23, 2017 00:48 |
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At that moment the monk was enlightened.
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# ? Dec 23, 2017 01:00 |
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Baloogan posted:At that moment the monk was enlightened.
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# ? Dec 23, 2017 01:02 |
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This is a really good one: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1221175711 e: also if you can bear to spend the time, watch this ten hour lp of the St Vith scenario: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZiKC1BzBrw The guy is actually listenable and explains the process for thinking about what to do. Alchenar fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Dec 23, 2017 |
# ? Dec 23, 2017 01:29 |
Alchenar posted:This is a really good one: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1221175711 Wow, that is a really good guide. If all grog games came with a section that was just like that, gently caress, we'd almost be mainstream.
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# ? Dec 23, 2017 03:41 |
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My haul so far this sale has been: * Silent Hunter bundle (third time I've bought these games) * Sudden Strike bundle * AGEOD Civil War 2 * Decisive Campaigns Barbarossa * Decisive Campaigns Case Blue It's regrettable that the Command Ops games aren't on sale. I'm still on the fence about: * Strategic Command WW2 * Another AGEOD game, either Alea Jacta Est or To End All Wars * Afghanistan '11
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# ? Dec 23, 2017 04:53 |
Afghanistan 11 is a pretty decent game. If you liked Vietnam 65, they improved on the formula. If you don't have Vietnam 65 and think you might like these games, it's a little less than 5 bucks. I'd give that a try and see if you like the logistics management gameplay. These games are mostly logistics at the end of the day, since you have to keep everyone supplied if they're not in a base. The FOBs themselves need supply too.
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# ? Dec 23, 2017 09:46 |
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I finally caved and bought CMANO because it's on sale again.
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# ? Dec 23, 2017 12:13 |
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e: Nothing to see here.
markgreyam fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Dec 24, 2017 |
# ? Dec 23, 2017 12:53 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:My haul so far this sale has been: This is currently what's scratching my aforementioned PacWar itch. You're probably aware, but if you run any mods on it, you'll need to make it large address aware. There's an app that I found thru the subsim forum that makes it a literal 3-step process: select executable, check LAA box, save. The Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate mod is also pretty great. I've been running that and, though still in beta, it strikes a good balance between fun and realism. I used the Trigger Maru and Real Fleet Boat mods for a few years and they both made the enemy escort AI bipolar. They either frittered off to shangri-la after a torpedo attack, or they detected my submerged, silent, and stationary submarine at 12000 yards and pulverized me. FotRSU - because we don't have enough acronyms here already - does a pretty good job at making the escorts feel realistic. Also, it includes a copy of the LAA app I mentioned above.
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# ? Dec 23, 2017 14:03 |
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Gewehr 43 posted:This is currently what's scratching my aforementioned PacWar itch. You're probably aware, but if you run any mods on it, you'll need to make it large address aware. There's an app that I found thru the subsim forum that makes it a literal 3-step process: select executable, check LAA box, save. The Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate mod is also pretty great. I've been running that and, though still in beta, it strikes a good balance between fun and realism. I used the Trigger Maru and Real Fleet Boat mods for a few years and they both made the enemy escort AI bipolar. They either frittered off to shangri-la after a torpedo attack, or they detected my submerged, silent, and stationary submarine at 12000 yards and pulverized me. Does it fix the 3D models to make the screws turn the right direction? Stock SH4 screws on at least some classes turn backwards, and it always drove me irrationally loving nuts.
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# ? Dec 23, 2017 14:32 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:My haul so far this sale has been: I recommend Strategic Command WW2; it's a pretty fun grog-light game that you can fool around in without breaking it *too* much.
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# ? Dec 23, 2017 14:46 |
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Does Command Ops 2 fix resolution issues from 1? I don't wanna buy essentially the same game twice, but I can't even play 1 because I can't see unit stats and condition properly.
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# ? Dec 23, 2017 15:44 |
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Chump Farts posted:Does Command Ops 2 fix resolution issues from 1? I don't wanna buy essentially the same game twice, but I can't even play 1 because I can't see unit stats and condition properly. Yeah the last update finally fixed the resolution issues.
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# ? Dec 23, 2017 16:33 |
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Yooper posted:Wow, that is a really good guide. If all grog games came with a section that was just like that, gently caress, we'd almost be mainstream. We try: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1081327870
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# ? Dec 23, 2017 18:28 |
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Someone please talk me out of trying to make central european scenarios in cmano. Even just trying to restrict it to denmark cant wade off the scenario creep.
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# ? Dec 23, 2017 18:45 |
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Please don't buy To End All Wars, it's complete trash and the turns crash and/or take 30 minutes even before 1915.
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# ? Dec 23, 2017 20:22 |
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If you end up getting Strategic Command 2, check out the map mod a goon linked to up-thread. I think it really improves things.
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# ? Dec 23, 2017 20:29 |
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MrYenko posted:Does it fix the 3D models to make the screws turn the right direction? Well, I can't speak for all ships, bit the Chuck_D fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Dec 24, 2017 |
# ? Dec 23, 2017 23:59 |
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skooma512 posted:Speaking of Cold Waters, is it worth 40 dollars? Whether or not it's worth $40 to you is going to depend a lot on how much you want a good tactical game vs. how much you want a deep campaign. The campaign is not deep. It's there, it works, and it functions to provide a connected framework for missions, but that's it. Aside from that the game is ridiculously good and getting solid post-release support.
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# ? Dec 24, 2017 00:07 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:It's regrettable that (check your PMs)
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# ? Dec 24, 2017 05:14 |
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WITP has already been worth $30 just in the smaller scenarios. I'm a week into the Dec 7 scenario as the Allies and have some decisions to make. Are the PI defendable? I'm pulling as may ships out as possible to Surabaya, then to Australia or Ceylon. Unfortunately the AOs were jumped on the way but most TFs have survived. There's a large auto convoy full of CW troops going to Singapore. I'd drop them in Rangoon instead but the port is too shallow. Letting them go to Singapore feels like sending them to a POW camp, there has to be somewhere else in the DEI or Burma for them. My plan is to build up Pago Pago, Suva, and Noumea as bases to defend the trade route to Aus. Everything north of that line feels totally vulnerable.
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# ? Dec 24, 2017 21:36 |
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Woodchip posted:WITP has already been worth $30 just in the smaller scenarios. I'm a week into the Dec 7 scenario as the Allies and have some decisions to make. WITP is a life style game. In that it's the only game you ever need
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# ? Dec 24, 2017 21:37 |
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# ? Jun 1, 2024 04:03 |
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Phi230 posted:WITP is a life style game. In that it's the only game you ever need Yeah, it's filling the gap face-to-face WiF left in my schedule.
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# ? Dec 24, 2017 21:38 |