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Inescapable Duck posted:Start the world's most passive-aggressive civil war? Wouldn't be the first time that sort of thing was tried. An early revolution in Freetown, Sierra Leone went along those lines, with parallel laws, government, and governor. Spoilers: The British crushed it brutally anyway.
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Inescapable Duck posted:Start the world's most passive-aggressive civil war? Cerebral Bore posted:Dual Power here we go That's sort of the anarchist signature move, isn't it? Like, the impression I get from the one local lefty mixer I went to was that seemed to be the plan. Like, build up local independent institutions. I dunno, is there a concept to look up for that? Separatism? Like the Panthers?
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merry Christmas everyone https://twitter.com/NYTNational/status/944185812702453760 
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Wow, going all out on the Christmas thing by pulling a Herod. At least one of those babies has to be named Jesus.
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double nine posted:merry Christmas everyone Oh look, the brain child of former gitmo taskmaster John Kelly.
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Rockopolis posted:I dunno, is there a concept to look up for that? Separatism? Like the Panthers? Hezbollah? If shits so bad alternate institutions start popping up shits hosed hard for all of us.
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Koalas March posted:yeah thats not funny tell us more about your distrust of robot police, Detroit. 
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https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/944601602551353344 https://twitter.com/TheRoot/status/944598510242091008 Red and Black fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Dec 23, 2017 |
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pro-click.
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Inescapable Duck posted:Start the world's most passive-aggressive civil war? Since the alternative is to accept legislative hostage-taking in perpetuity, I'm willing to try anything. "We -wanted- to make a stand, you see, but that would imperil the grant for the Birdwatching Assitance Fund! We're not here to burn the house down!"
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:The Dems were forced to choose between CHIP or DACA. CHIP needed to be dealt with immediately, DACA still has time to work with. Remember when the Dems promised to shutdown the government if they didn't get a DACA fix? Sure, if they get a DACA fix in a month, this will all be forgotten. But that's a bigger political challenge that the GOP are less likely to offer concessions on, the Democrats have a long reputation of spinelessness and folding when things get tough, and absolutely no one has any faith that the likes of Manchin or Nelson will be any more likely to stand up for DREAMers next month. Look, we can talk about the blame for government shutdowns and CHIP all we want. But after the big game Nancy and Chuck talked about DACA earlier, they are not going to be able to get away with blaming it on Republicans now if they don't get a fix in. They could have done that before, but now they've taken ownership of the issue and Dems are now on the hook to back up their talk with action - something that they don't have a particularly great track record on! Kilroy posted:It's not clear that a government shutdown will energize the Democratic base, though. Seeing the Dems stand up and fight for something will absolutely energize the base. Meanwhile, if the Republicans stop people's Social Security checks and Medicare payments from going out in order to avoid having to fund children's healthcare, the Republican base are going to be furious. It's easy to say that Republicans don't care about government services, but a lot of their voters use and depend on those. If the government skips a round of disability checks or shuts down the VA hospitals, there's gonna be a lot of angry old white people with guns marching outside Republican offices in places like Tennessee and Mississippi.
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Kilroy posted:It's not clear that a government shutdown will energize the Democratic base, though. I think its clear that another exceptionally public display of cowardice, inaction and submission will de energize it though. If rhe Republicans wanted to shut down the government, the Dems wouldnt even have gotten CHIP - its obvious they dont want to shut it down, not while they are in charge, not with the midterms on the horizon. The dems beed to fight and do that and then run with the narrative of how the republicans were willing to gently caress everyone if it meant they got to gently caress over poor kids. Most non tuned in people are going to blame the Republicans for any shutdown and the Republicans know it
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"Oh there government done shut down that's GEWD!!!" 1 Attachment: crying_eagle_troop_silhouette_sunset.jpeg
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The only thing you can do to stop R votes involved things you can't say on this forum Or outing a Republican candidate's pedophilia. Two things will keep a Republican from voting, and one of them only sorta.
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I'm hinging my opinion of this whole business on what happens in January.
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Potato Salad posted:The only thing you can do to stop R votes involved things you can't say on this forum or general discouragement I know a few people who won't turn out for establishment rinos for example, which is to say, they're awful, morons, or both but still which is part of why I was hoping for the tax bill to drag on longer
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Heavily implying that you'd like to go murder people who vote for your political opponents is cool and good and not at all psychotic.
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Main Paineframe posted:Seeing the Dems stand up and fight for something will absolutely energize the base. Meanwhile, if the Republicans stop people's Social Security checks and Medicare payments from going out in order to avoid having to fund children's healthcare, the Republican base are going to be furious. It's easy to say that Republicans don't care about government services, but a lot of their voters use and depend on those. If the government skips a round of disability checks or shuts down the VA hospitals, there's gonna be a lot of angry old white people with guns marching outside Republican offices in places like Tennessee and Mississippi. During the last government shutdown my VA compensation was still deposited into my checking account. And the healthcare side of the VA is considered to be "essential services" and is not affected by a shutdown. The VBA and VCA are shutdown but the VHA stays open and I don't know if anyone who has an opinion besides "gently caress them" for the people at the VBA.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Heavily implying that you'd like to go murder people who vote for your political opponents is cool and good and not at all psychotic. If those people vote for taking away children's health care they're actually murdering kids hth
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Heavily implying that you'd like to go murder people who vote for your political opponents is cool and good and not at all psychotic. Self defense isn't really all that psychotic though?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Heavily implying that you'd like to go murder people who vote for your political opponents is cool and good and not at all psychotic. *child dies from absent CHIP funding* *Trumpster rubs it in your loving face* “Hey you better not get all crazy about this.”
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I'm sure the court will be very receptive to that argument after you kill granny.
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well lets not abandon our decorum
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I'm sure the court will be very receptive to that argument after you kill granny. No one gives a gently caress if the old white judge in charge of the court approves lol
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Heavily implying that you'd like to go murder people who vote for your political opponents is cool and good and not at all psychotic. Shimrra Jamaane posted:I'm sure the court will be very receptive to that argument after you kill granny. Very cool that you're privileged enough to view politics as some polite gentlemanly game instead of the knife fight it is.
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Calibanibal posted:well lets not abandon our decorum "b-but bad dems with their decorum might shut down the government that i will loudly tell you is run by fascists (who i will totally do anything to stop, just trust me on that as long as it doesn't mean the fascists get defunded)"
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Still think McCain has a chance to redeem his maverick cred by just chainsawing McConnell in half live on CSpan. Can blame it on the tumor. Good for the ratings, too, if he can throw in a good one-liner about doing it to cut the deficit. Edit Or Franken, get a little extra use out of him on the way out. He's a comedian, I think he'd find it to be funny. Rockopolis fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Dec 23, 2017 |
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karthun posted:During the last government shutdown my VA compensation was still deposited into my checking account. And the healthcare side of the VA is considered to be "essential services" and is not affected by a shutdown. The VBA and VCA are shutdown but the VHA stays open and I don't know if anyone who has an opinion besides "gently caress them" for the people at the VBA. The VA is funded a little farther in advance than most other government services, so it can usually handle a short shutdown. If the last shutdown had lasted another couple of weeks, the VA would have been in trouble. Rockopolis posted:Still think McCain has a chance to redeem his maverick cred by just chainsawing McConnell in half live on CSpan. Can blame it on the tumor. Maverick McCain was never anything more than an act he put on to distance himself from the horrifically unpopular GOP presidency while he was setting up his presidential run. Now that his White House ambitions are dead, so is the "Maverick" act.
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Main Paineframe posted:Maverick McCain was never anything more than an act he put on to distance himself from the horrifically unpopular GOP presidency while he was setting up his presidential run. Now that his White House ambitions are dead, so is the "Maverick" act. How about Puerto Rico going for a redo by sending a couple guys with tommyguns and presumably wearing zoot suits?
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If guns don't kill people, people do; then cars don't plow into people, nazis do.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Heavily implying that you'd like to go murder people who vote for your political opponents is cool and good and not at all psychotic.  
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Heavily implying that you'd like to go murder people who vote for your death is cool and good and not at all psychotic.
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For those still interested, The Root did a video interview with Cornel West regarding his "fued" with Coates. The angle that was brought up in this thread of Coates' mischaracterization of Malcom X's legacy is indeed gone over. Also, since black women and the Democratic Party have been discussed, it looks like there may be some concern that black women voters may actually be leaving the Democratic party, which makes the moves by Doug Jones recently even more stupid looking in the face of this possibility. Kokoro Wish fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Dec 24, 2017 |
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Kokoro Wish posted:For those still interested, The Root did a video interview with Cornel West regarding his "fued" with Coates. The angle that was brought up in this thread of Coates' mischaracterization of Malcom X's legacy is indeed gone over. Regarding changing opinions among black women, I wonder how much of that is an age demographic thing (due to people of later generations making up a larger portion of the electorate), where younger black women - just like younger people of other races/demographics - are generally less willing to tolerate the political status quo.
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Kokoro Wish posted:. Is there a source for that that isn't a right wing rag?
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Kokoro Wish posted:For those still interested, The Root did a video interview with Cornel West regarding his "fued" with Coates. The angle that was brought up in this thread of Coates' mischaracterization of Malcom X's legacy is indeed gone over. Newsmax? Really?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Heavily implying that you'd like to go murder people who vote for your political opponents is cool and good and not at all psychotic. There's a thread where we're all pretty much fine with this idea and it's name is Trump.
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Koalas March posted:This is a thing I tell a lot of people: If that's not you, then it's not about you. "Of course I wasn't talking about you! You're one of the Good Ones!" You of all people should see just how bullshit of a statement that is
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I remember there were articles concerned about low enthusiasm among AA voters in the runup to both Virginia and Alabama.
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