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Jesse eisenberg pretty much single hsndedly ruined the movie for me
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Agreed. When Bryan Cranston was rumored to be Lex I was ecstatic. Then we got mumbly mchee and his "I took a philosophy 101 class" weirdness and man just gently caress Snyder.
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Dec 23, 2017 22:25
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The Last Jedi: People improbably surviving in the vacuum of space in scifi movies is a big pet peeve of mine, but this instance was made a thousand times worse by the fact that Leia had been out there for a while before somehow coming back to life and using Force magic to fly back to the ship. Also, it pissed me off that they killed Snoke before we learned anything about him. He's the driving force behind all of the antagonists, and we don't know where he came from, how he started the First Order, and what his motivations are beyond generic evilness. There isn't even a throwaway line about it.
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Dec 23, 2017 23:12
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Gordon Shumway posted:Also, it pissed me off that they killed Snoke before we learned anything about him. He's the driving force behind all of the antagonists, and we don't know where he came from, how he started the First Order, and what his motivations are beyond generic evilness. There isn't even a throwaway line about it. I feel like we learned about as much about Snoke in TLJ as we did about Palpatine in ROTJ. 
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Dec 23, 2017 23:17
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Don't worry, i'm sure they have another set of prequels brewing for that.
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Dec 24, 2017 01:26
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Don't worry, i'm sure they have another set of expanded universe novels brewing for that.
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Dec 24, 2017 01:49
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yeah I eat rear end posted:Don't worry, i'm sure they have another set of prequels brewing for that. Isn't that what the Rogue One style films are for? Gordon Shumway posted:The Last Jedi: People improbably surviving in the vacuum of space in scifi movies is a big pet peeve of mine, but this instance was made a thousand times worse by the fact that Leia had been out there for a while before somehow coming back to life and using Force magic to fly back to the ship. The vacuum of space is a lot more survivable than you think for the length of time she was in it. Remember, vacuum is only one atmospheric pressure away from earth's atmosphere. It sounds like a lot, but compared to other things you could be exposed to it's really not.
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Dec 24, 2017 02:01
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MeccaPrime posted:That whole Kryptonite Spear sequence at the end bothered me in a different way. (ending spoilers) Why did Supes have to be the one who stabbed Ogre-Zod?? Wonder Woman was shown to have some pretty decent strength and fighting prowess; why couldn't Supes have tossed it to her and have her stab him with it? Isn't she an Amazonian or something? Aren't spears kinda their thing?? The whole "sacrifice" seemed unnecessary to me. I like how it didn't occur to the ancient Greek hoplitesque armor wearing warrior with super strength that javelins are a thing.
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Dec 24, 2017 02:19
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Slime posted:Isn't that what the Rogue One style films are for? yeah, there have been more than a few people exposed to vacuum who have survived. If you're far enough from a star you won't even cook to death that fast!
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Dec 24, 2017 02:35
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Anything improbable happening in Star Wars can be attributed to The Force.
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Dec 24, 2017 03:56
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"The Force" is a very diplomatic way of saying "incoherent scripts"
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Dec 24, 2017 04:06
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Powaqoatse posted:"The Force" is a very diplomatic way of saying "incoherent scripts" "Incoherent scripts" is a very uncharitable way of saying "I don't like that 'a wizard did it' is a valid answer in this fictional universe". 
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Dec 24, 2017 04:10
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Besesoth posted:"Incoherent scripts" is a very uncharitable way of saying "I don't like that 'a wizard did it' is a valid answer in this fictional universe". probably true: true i might actually enjoy the movies if everyone shut the gently caress up about them so i wasnt at all times aware of every plotline, background character, and idk wtf
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Dec 24, 2017 04:15
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Powaqoatse posted:probably true: true Lol (?) If you let a bunch of incoherent nerd rambling about what amounts to SW fanfiction ruin your enjoyment of a movie.
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Dec 24, 2017 04:29
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no i just dont watch them anymore every time ive tried since 95ish theyve been disappointing or downright bad. back when episode 1 got hyped up, i watched the old ones through, and theyre alright. theyre not fantastic, and theyre not entirely awful. theyre purely "just ok" to me, but thats 20 years ago so i got the idea that maybe if all the outside talk was gone, itd be possible to see the film in a vacuum. probably not though.
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Batman vs Superman: dawn of Justice spoilersInescapable Duck posted:Much like the rest of the climax of the movie, it's so they can make Excalibur references. I confess I was a slightly drunk watching it. But what the gently caress? I really don't recall excalibur poo poo beyond Luther's 'Angles.... are actually DEVILS' thing with the painting. Marmaduke! posted:Doesn't she have to go back and get it a few scenes later anyway? Yeah she went back, but then she nearly drowns under some rubble. Superman has to stop fighting, abandon his team mates, and rescue her sorry rear end from yet another terrible decision. Admittedly, the building falling on her wasn't her fault though. I'll give her that. But it's kind of insulting because it just makes her a damsel in distress and a victim of bad decisions. She's fairly competent before all that. Oh well. I got my money's worth.
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Dec 24, 2017 04:55
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Powaqoatse posted:no i just dont watch them anymore If the film wasn't in a vacuum people wouldn't be grousing about it.
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Slime posted:The vacuum of space is a lot more survivable than you think for the length of time she was in it. Remember, vacuum is only one atmospheric pressure away from earth's atmosphere. It sounds like a lot, but compared to other things you could be exposed to it's really not. Unless I'm mistaken, she was out there while other scenes happened. Also, they show her effectively dead and frozen stiff, and she just somehow gets better. Maybe if she had immediately done the Force thing after getting sucked out, it would be less irritating. They made it seem like she had been out there a while and had already succumbed to vacuum. Now I realize that this doesn't jive with the fact that the ship is flying full speed away to stay out of range, and she's still somehow right next to it so that she can fly back, but that's a different, slightly less irritating passage of time problem that the movie has.
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Slime posted:The vacuum of space is a lot more survivable than you think for the length of time she was in it. Remember, vacuum is only one atmospheric pressure away from earth's atmosphere. It sounds like a lot, but compared to other things you could be exposed to it's really not. Everyone seems to forget that the reason she's in space is a giant explosion. Which should have killed her straight up.
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Dec 24, 2017 14:53
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People in Star Wars have something called The Force
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Mu Zeta posted:People in Star Wars have something called The Force It has limits! Anakin couldn't use it to prevent himself from being set on loving fire, for example. If you just use the Force to make characters invincible, what's the point? Either kill a character off or don't, don't try to have it both ways by pulling some dumb Force bullshit out of your rear end. (I'm talking to the writers here, not you, Mu Zeta, you're cool)
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Dec 24, 2017 15:06
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Honestly the biggest bullshit of the movies is how they trot out Brienne of Tarth to all the press junkets and interviews. Bait and switch motherfuckers.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Agreed. I wonder if it was intentional that the senator whos holding the superman hearings is the only one who looks clearly aware that Lex is literally insane and justdoing the most hosed up poo poo. Every other character treats him with like forbearance and humoring him, even up to and including the ending. Shes the only one who immediately recognizes that this person is a major fucker.
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Slime posted:
No, it's really not. Oxygen starts to outgas from the blood in your lungs instantly, and as soon as that deoxygenated blood hits your brain it's lights out. On exposure to vacuum you've got, oh, maybe 15-20 seconds of consciousness and then you pass out and your brain starts to die. It's faster than drowning, and holding your breath is worse than useless.
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Last Jedi: Space Bombers?? Why THE gently caress would you build spaceships that require GRAVITY to Attack other spaceships??? Also: One ship with a hyperdrive can 9/11 a whole fleet? Why has no one ever just strapped a hyperdrive to an asteroid? Seems much more efficient.
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Dec 24, 2017 18:08
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blarzgh posted:Last Jedi: Space Bombers?? Why THE gently caress would you build spaceships that require GRAVITY to Attack other spaceships??? A better question is why did those ships have tissue paper for armor?
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Putting Aquaman in your Justice League movie is going to hamper your plot because either A) the story takes place in the water...this lets the character shine but it will get more and more contrived the more you do it; or B) it doesn't take place in the water, in which case you have a bland superhero who's strong and sort-of invulnerable and that's kind of it. Green Lantern makes more sense and is much more powerful but his movie flopped, so welp.
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Back to Batman V. Superman: Dawn of Justice spear talk, I was disappointed that the retrieval of the spear didn't include Aquaman coming up from the depths to hand the spear to Lois. That would have been a cool character intro. Justice League was marginally better IMO, but Steppenwolf paled in comparison to the JL trying to take down Clark. Cyborg telling the Flash "we're the accidents" was the most he got in terms of character development.
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Dec 24, 2017 18:37
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Len posted:A better question is why did those ships have tissue paper for armor? Perhaps they disabled their shields when they knew the rebels couldn't fight back? The Empire/Last Order is known for being dumb. Much like everyone else in these movies
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blarzgh posted:Last Jedi: Space Bombers?? Why THE gently caress would you build spaceships that require GRAVITY to Attack other spaceships??? well they don't necessarily require gravity. All they need is an armature to shove them down at a decent speed. You can't shove a hyperdrive on an asteroid unless you also build in the computer that does all the calculations. HDs for a personal craft is the size of a cooler, a sedan for a crew ship and they just get bigger. At least they've never shown to have elaborate remote control over a ship, for some reason. I suppose you could stick a droid in there.
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Inzombiac posted:well they don't necessarily require gravity. All they need is an armature to shove them down at a decent speed. It's from the old EU but http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Slave_circuit
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blarzgh posted:Last Jedi: Space Bombers?? Why THE gently caress would you build spaceships that require GRAVITY to Attack other spaceships??? The real answer is because George Lucas isn't very creative and never thought of it before.
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I've been reading too much of the Expanse series lately where things like thrust, distance, light delay, vacuum dynamics, etc. are taken pretty seriously so I went in extra critical but still, the first 45 minutes of that movie were garbage, but they were as bad as the last 2 hours were fantastic. Oh, and another thing: what's the goddamn point of not telling Poe and everyone on board about the plan? To test them all and see which of the last handful of rebels in the universe would follow orders unquestioningly?
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The original sin of the new Star Wars movies was JJ deciding he had to replicate the exact Empire/Rebellion dynamic of the first trilogy. Every other bad decision follows from that one. I think it would've been more interesting to have the next generation have to fight to defend the fledgling New Republic against Sith neo-Imperial terrorists but from basically the position the Empire was in in the first trilogy, and now the Imperial remnant/Sith are the scrappy dangerous underdogs. In that case it would've been more interesting to actually see the Luke/Kylo Ren relationship in the New Jedi Academy as it developed. The new movies as they are now deliberately wipe out and invalidate everything that happened in the old movies and I hate that.
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Len posted:It's from the old EU but http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Slave_circuit The EU deserved to die even if it means getting rid of some cool stuff. Let go of the past. Kill it if you have to.
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blarzgh posted:
We see from when they're introduced that Holden dislikes Poe. She's just doing it out of personal spite
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Ravenfood posted:it might not be the best idea to tell everyone that your plan is to sneak away in cloaked, unshielded transport ships just in case you have a traitor on board. Or someone who's already shown an inability to follow orders and whose friends unwittingly bring such a traitor into the mix.
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TLJ: That the code breaker they went to find wasn't Lando.
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blarzgh posted:Last Jedi: Space Bombers?? Why THE gently caress would you build spaceships that require GRAVITY to Attack other spaceships??? Same thing with the long range plasma cannons firing in an arc. Space does not work that way  The lightspeed kamikaze was cool as gently caress, but just made you question why did they never do that to the Death Star, or why the empire doesn't just do that to blow up planets
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