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chitoryu12 posted:I always figured that cheap beers were all the same, but I started doing reviews on Beer Advocate and realized that if I paid attention I could taste a surprising amount of difference. I can taste some differences but it's like twenty different flavors of tap water. Just different varieties of Not Worth Drinking Except Alcohol.
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chitoryu12 posted:As a manager, I treat my office in a way that's so casual that some people would balk at it. You have to ask for days off outside of PTO usage (and PTO still needs approval, but it almost always gets approved unless there's some kind of emergency where we need to have you work), but nobody will ever be fired for being out sick as long as they have a doctor's note, no matter how long they're gone. We let people work on weekends when the office is closed if they want to make up for time lost for sick days or vacations. If there's an emergency and someone needs to leave early or come in late, we'll usually approve as long as it doesn't gently caress everyone else up. One of our employees has a whole battery of medical issues, so we allow her flexibility in her coming and going to reflect that. Our strongest rules are that you need to call ahead if you're going to be late and you need to come in and leave at the times you put on the board for your planned attendance. Yeah, I run operations for a small coffee company and in the office we can: come in when we like, leave when we like, take time off if we're sick, take days in lieu, work from home if necessary. And we're 6 people doing the work of 12, (small company growth blues) everyone works like hell and is happy and productive because we're able to manage our own time. We've got retail stores with hourly workers too and recently I successfully proposed hiring an extra member of staff by demonstrating that we were spending more in hiring and training than we would on an hourly worker, and the number one cause of burnout amongst our staff was excess covershifts caused by sickness or holiday. It's good to work for a company where senior management actually use their brains.
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SiKboy posted:This has literally never been true. Remember when Eggplant Wizard aka Aubergine used to push the Latin jokes? veni veni veni is kind of funny, as a user name
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KingSlime posted:Veni veni veni makes an interesting point. Yes the US has some seriously rear end backwards laws that should not be defended (unless you benefit from them, in which case know that you will be the first to hang). I mean, based on my experience only, everyone complains about working conditions where I work. There are some people who make others pick up their slack, but the possibility of loving over the good workers to be able to nail the few that cause problems is totally not worth it. People who habitually call in sick are going to reap what they sow eventually, but having strict rules about such things is just going to cause more problems than it's worth, know what I mean jellybean?
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chitoryu12 posted:I always figured that cheap beers were all the same, but I started doing reviews on Beer Advocate and realized that if I paid attention I could taste a surprising amount of difference. This is how I determined that Sapporo is horrible and PBR is the best for pounding at a bar for $1 because it has so little flavor that you actually need to focus on your tongue to taste anything but carbonation. PBR also meets the FDAs standards to be considered gluten free so it's a super cheap beer that's okay for people with celiac disease.
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pbr is a pro tier cheap lovely beer but if you can get it, hands down the best is milwaukee's best light
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boner confessor posted:pbr is a pro tier cheap lovely beer but if you can get it, hands down the best is milwaukee's best light The Beast is foul, no thanks.
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Cheapbeerchat: http://www.chicagotribune.com/dining/foodfocus/ct-macro-beer-tasting-food-0712-20170706-story.html It's Hamm's.
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I wonder if shops would be able to schedule employees for Christmas Eve who simply don't celebrate Christmas, or who don't care, and stay open late for the stragglers.
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Dec 25, 2017 22:23
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What are you, some sort of terrist that doesn't celebrate our lord and savior's birthday?
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ante posted:What are you, some sort of terrist that doesn't celebrate our lord and savior's birthday? Jehovas Witness's?
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Hyperlynx posted:I wonder if shops would be able to schedule employees for Christmas Eve who simply don't celebrate Christmas, or who don't care, and stay open late for the stragglers. Could that be used against the shop, though? Can see it being like, "We're being discriminated against by being forced to follow a holiday we don't believe in or forced to work a day those who do don't have to!".
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Aramoro posted:Jehovas Witness's? Let's not sully ISIS' good name with that comparison
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Azhais posted:Let's not sully ISIS' good name with that comparison https://twitter.com/dril/status/831805955402776576?s=17
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Hyperlynx posted:I wonder if shops would be able to schedule employees for Christmas Eve who simply don't celebrate Christmas, or who don't care, and stay open late for the stragglers.
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How much would you bid now? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izx8r-bUcQ0
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DiggityDoink posted:The Beast is foul, no thanks. 
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:I think it's more of a social idea that you're either working or being lazy and there's no in-between, and that somehow sickness is a moral issue instead of a biological one. It's this. When I was a young worker, I'd come in sick thinking it meant I was showing management what a hard-working go-getter I was, and everything around me socially had reinforced that as proper behavior. It wasn't until I had a legit office job that this whole 'we can't afford the team getting sick' mentality came into play, and it took me a bit of time to internalize.
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BovineFury posted:How much would you bid now? "one dollar" 
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BovineFury posted:How much would you bid now? That was schaden but it was handled so well by all parties involved that I find it somehow a win. Even Carey states it best: "They almost have it all cleaned up already." Those people are professional as hell. Also it was cool the audience gave the crew some applause as well. zakharov posted:"one dollar" Perfect timing.
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as a manager, if you got some scribbly illegible bullshit on hospital letterhead would you just shrug and accept it?
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Former DILF posted:as a manager, if you got some scribbly illegible bullshit on hospital letterhead would you just shrug and accept it? I didn't really care too much so long as they were being honest with me. If you were calling in because of bronchitis or a hang over it still resulted in you not being there. Just don't lie to me.
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Former DILF posted:as a manager, if you got some scribbly illegible bullshit on hospital letterhead would you just shrug and accept it? You mean for sick time? I'd only give a gently caress if the person giving it to me had a history of sketchy illness.
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:That was schaden but it was handled so well by all parties involved that I find it somehow a win.
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Former DILF posted:as a manager, if you got some scribbly illegible bullshit on hospital letterhead would you just shrug and accept it? You do realise you are allowed to call and verify the note, right?
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If we're talking about just an ordinary sick day and not some extended absence, requiring a doctor's note is really loving stupid. Doctors hate it because they have way more important things to do with their time than writing a note to teacher like it's loving high school, and it drives up medical costs and makes it harder for people who actually need the attention of a doctor to get to see one. Also, it's another way to discourage sick employees from staying home and not infecting their coworkers. I can't figure out why if you give your employees x days of sick leave and y days of vacation a year you shouldn't just expect them to take x+y days off and be happy if they show up for more than that. It's one of their benefits, treat them like adults.
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I don't even get how that works. You tell the doctor you were sick a couple of days ago and he's supposed to do something other than be like "Okay???"
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The way I've always handled it is that if I'm sick enough to need more than one day off work then I'm sick enough to see a doctor about it.
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If I have two days off in a row before or after a weekend I need a note, only because my work has been burned in the past with middle-management types taking long weekends and abusing the system. Especially during the mining boom when salaries were through the roof. A couple of months ago, I had the Friday off, scraped myself out of bed to go in Monday afternoon to sign off on some budgets, then didn't go back until the following Friday. I don't think it was the actual 'flu but it was no fun.
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The Lone Badger posted:The way I've always handled it is that if I'm sick enough to need more than one day off work then I'm sick enough to see a doctor about it. There's a whole bunch of things that can knock you on your rear end for more than a day that a doctor can't do anything about. What do you want him to do, write a script for antibiotics that aren't going to do a single thing because you have a viral infection? Memento posted:If I have two days off in a row before or after a weekend I need a note, only because my work has been burned in the past with middle-management types taking long weekends and abusing the system. Especially during the mining boom when salaries were through the roof. Again, here's me failing to understand how taking the PTO that an employee is entitled to as part of his benefits package is "abusing the system." It's their leave, let them take it. Your poo poo shouldn't be brittle enough that things fall apart because some people take a long weekend. Really, PTO should just be PTO, period. The only thing that's different between sick leave and vacation at my company is how it carries over at the end of the year. Other than that nobody gives a poo poo, nor should they. Phanatic has a new favorite as of 02:28 on Dec 26, 2017 |
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Phanatic posted:There's a whole bunch of things that can knock you on your rear end for more than a day that a doctor can't do anything about. What do you want him to do, write a script for antibiotics that aren't going to do a single thing because you have a viral infection? Agreed. The only reason I've ever had to produce a doctor's note was when I was getting my knee rebuilt. And I needed it for short-term disability insurance to kick in.
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We've also had temps just not come back to work after getting sick because a doctor's bill that would take them months to pay back was worse for them financially than getting a new job.
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Google is failing me. Can someone repost that french video of the guy dressed as santa chasing down a car after it hit someone?
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Here you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muAPJiMho2Y&t=66s
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Thank you! Merry christmas.
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Santa racing down French streets to catch a hit and run driver is amazing.
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Phanatic posted:Again, here's me failing to understand how taking the PTO that an employee is entitled to as part of his benefits package is "abusing the system." It's their leave, let them take it. Your poo poo shouldn't be brittle enough that things fall apart because some people take a long weekend. Planning and staffing is the reason upper management give, yeah, but I see your point. poo poo never got really terrible and nothing was so fragile that it couldn't wait for the next day/be done after hours by someone who would then get paid OT for it.
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I don't know of anyone who was ever denied PTO, but the highest levels of management (such as the owners) reserve the right to deny it if there's some sort of emergency that would royally gently caress things up if someone suddenly decided to disappear for a half a month. Like if both of the people making our physical product decided they were going to take a long vacation at the same time in a few weeks and our schedule showed that we'd be too understaffed to effectively cover for them, for example. We also started requiring some sort of proof for leaving due to illness because of people who started regularly walking out in the middle of the day for vaguely defined problems like headaches, or one who consistently failed to come in on almost every single Monday because of claimed flu-like symptoms at the end of every weekend. It was enough of a problem that it noticeably slowed our work and resulted in customer service issues because of the same people consistently not coming in, and unfortunately you can't just establish a policy for one person because that comes off as discriminatory. "Proof" doesn't have to be a doctor's note, as we've made people leave to see the doctor when they started coughing up blood or throwing up in the bathroom. It's not like poo poo will fall apart if we don't have maximum capacity for a day, but our scheduling flexibility (which makes us really popular with young people in school) means that sometimes we have days without a ton of people in for large parts of the day and we can't exactly afford to spend 6 hours with only 2 or 3 people trying to do everything.
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