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What the heck is up with this thread? Only one I've seen that consistently eats the last post. Usually that's just server issues. Could just be on my end, though. Contribution: not a big fan of the Scientology faction in nuka-world having a tangible INT buff to their cult shenanigans.
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# ? Dec 23, 2017 23:41 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 21:45 |
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Neurolimal posted:What the heck is up with this thread? Only one I've seen that consistently eats the last post. Usually that's just server issues. Could just be on my end, though. It's all the threads that zendeathrobot has posted in IIRC. I don't think there is a public consensus on the why.
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# ? Dec 23, 2017 23:46 |
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osirisisdead posted:I watched bits and pieces of gameplay from streamers and rocked and rolled through the story in 20 hours of Nerf mode last year until the Institute revolutionary synth plotline, but I got bored. This was my experience. Not just for the eating and drinking, though I do like it for ~immersion~ but because it's the only way they combat feels balanced (they do more damage, you do more damage). It oddly makes Idiot Savant even more overpowered though because enemies give double XP and any level of thirst is -INT, so even without the ability to savescum quest turn-ins even killing random raiders and ghouls may randomly drop like 1,000XP on you. And who knows, maybe some day I'll actually get past the Glowing Sea portion of the main quest and finish the game!
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# ? Dec 24, 2017 04:59 |
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it says a lot about the game when the nuclear death cult is best faction
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# ? Dec 24, 2017 06:08 |
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I snuck out of a fight between some Children of Atom and some Gunners in power armor the other day
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# ? Dec 24, 2017 23:05 |
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osirisisdead posted:I snuck out of a fight between some Children of Atom and some Gunners in power armor the other day , Terrible cretins.
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# ? Dec 25, 2017 01:33 |
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I was in power armor and doing the sneaking.
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# ? Dec 25, 2017 02:05 |
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osirisisdead posted:I was in power armor and doing the sneaking. UHURHURKK Ah yes the Power Armor, if you're looking to upgrade The Atom Cats Garage is the place to do it, although not on a budget. Have you heard any word about the other settlements?
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# ? Dec 25, 2017 05:34 |
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Yes. Next steps: I am taking some basic resources to The Castle to get food production and more defense going there.
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# ? Dec 25, 2017 07:31 |
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I should probably get around to doing this whole main quest thing eventually. I heard the game has one.
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# ? Dec 25, 2017 12:03 |
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Loaded up an old save today and went to Diamond City to see the decorations. It was Halloween.
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# ? Dec 25, 2017 23:02 |
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The brotherhood of steel showed up in the commonwealth and announced that they’re hear to help and then some guys jumped out of a helicopter and started trying to kill me. I assume that’s not how it’s supposed to go down?
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# ? Dec 26, 2017 04:09 |
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A bunch of stuff feels shoehorned in because it’s fallout. Super mutants could be removed. The BoS too. I’d like to see the game as a conflict between the humans of the surface and a menace they don’t understand (the institute) and of course the world. It’d be neat if you asked into the situation right after the humans collapsed after a civil war. The railroad vs the minutemen. Railroad was the militant faction that hired the gunners because the minutemen didn’t want to save synths.
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# ? Dec 26, 2017 04:45 |
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Knuc U Kinte posted:The brotherhood of steel showed up in the commonwealth and announced that they’re hear to help and then some guys jumped out of a helicopter and started trying to kill me. I assume that’s not how it’s supposed to go down? Sounds like they're making good on their promise imo
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# ? Dec 26, 2017 10:31 |
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Knuc U Kinte posted:The brotherhood of steel showed up in the commonwealth and announced that they’re hear to help and then some guys jumped out of a helicopter and started trying to kill me. I assume that’s not how it’s supposed to go down? American foreign policy in a nutshell
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# ? Dec 26, 2017 15:13 |
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Knuc U Kinte posted:The brotherhood of steel showed up in the commonwealth and announced that they’re hear to help and then some guys jumped out of a helicopter and started trying to kill me. I assume that’s not how it’s supposed to go down? Ah, so they're no longer simply waiting for the savages outside their bunkers to die. I'd probably be more disappointed if I was actually surprised.
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# ? Dec 26, 2017 15:35 |
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That's something that also irks me about the institute. They're literally just the BoS but cleaner and more secluded. It feels like they realized they went too hard into writing BoS as Noble Good Guy Paladins in 3 and needed a new standin for a big threat. Their tech is also pretty bizarre considering BoS and splinter faction Enclave had direct government support; how did the institute end up with a thousand ultrascientists?
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# ? Dec 26, 2017 16:03 |
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Neurolimal posted:That's something that also irks me about the institute. They're literally just the BoS but cleaner and more secluded. It feels like they realized they went too hard into writing BoS as Noble Good Guy Paladins in 3 and needed a new standin for a big threat. Their tech is also pretty bizarre considering BoS and splinter faction Enclave had direct government support; how did the institute end up with a thousand ultrascientists? Presumably they got all the sensible scientists after sending all their crazy ones to Mt Big. Well, I say sensible, considering whatever they did to put Super Mutants in the commonwealth. I haven't completed a run-through yet, I always stop at a point to start a fresh with new mods, so I haven't come across any lore to explain why the heck there are Super Mutants there, other than Swan.
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# ? Dec 26, 2017 16:33 |
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Goddamn the dialogue in this game is so bad it makes me angry. "Pick an option that has no impact on how the conversation will progress" or "Pick a Charisma option that gives you a tiny amount of XP but will also have no impact on how the conversation will progress"
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# ? Dec 26, 2017 17:31 |
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Replaying this makes me think that it would have been a whole hell of a lot better had the main character been Nick Valentine. But I think that would have been far too difficult for Bethesda's "Baby's first video game" writers to handle. Especially considering you'd have to accommodate for two+ genders. Which wouldn't have been difficult, because as far as I can tell Nick considers himself a person separate from the memories of the original Nick Valentine, so the gender wouldn't be a big deal aside from a few "Is it strange being a woman with a man's memories?" kind of questions. Expand out the Eddie Winter case and throw in an investigation of the institute. Then you don't have that weirdness of a supposedly distraught father completely ignoring the fact that he just lost his kid & wife in favor of loving off around the wasteland for 100+ hours. Anyway, the takeaway here is that Todd Howard is a hack and can suck my balls. Thanks for reading!
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# ? Dec 26, 2017 18:08 |
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On a more positive note, I do think F4 is far better written than most of Bethesda's prior games (even if I dislike them aping Bioware's speech wheel and adding voice acting to the MC). There are a scant few quests that I'd say are almost Obsidian tier, and most of the non-main quest stuff is okay. BoS are still insufferable but that's just the hole they chose to dig.
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# ? Dec 26, 2017 20:47 |
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I remember the BoS being really reasonable in New Vegas, but wasn't that the "yeah our mandate is to collect tech and help the locals" chapter? I do know that I never wanted to harm them, but the BoS in F4 I had no problem turning on.
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# ? Dec 27, 2017 00:08 |
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null_pointer posted:I remember the BoS being really reasonable in New Vegas, but wasn't that the "yeah our mandate is to collect tech and help the locals" chapter? I do know that I never wanted to harm them, but the BoS in F4 I had no problem turning on. IIRC they're still very isolationist, and take their "we're the sole hope for humanity" stuff to extremes (Veronica's girlfriend is excommunicated because they want to encourage procreation). Also if you convince Veronica to leave the BoS, they will attack and kill the charity faction outpost she intends to join. Like most factions you can improve them though. That's something I really liked about how NV separated morality from factions; if you had positive morality/negative morality the endings would speak of your character making the faction better/worse, even the worst/best factions.
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# ? Dec 27, 2017 00:20 |
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Fallout 4: Two goons huddle in the ruins of the thread and discuss lore Right, but the banishment happened under Elijah, who was clearly a) old-testament levels of gently caress Everyone Only Technology Will Save us, b) batshit crazy and (in my universe, at least) c) died buried alive under the Sierra Madre due to his obsession and hubris. I can't remember if post-Elijah leadership was less psychopathically murderous, but I think that's why I need to play NV, again. That's the only thing truly good that really comes out of F4 -- it makes people want to replay New Vegas.
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# ? Dec 27, 2017 01:13 |
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The NV chapter can form a tenuous ceasefire with the NCR under the good elder, or can go hard into the kill-anyone-with-a-laser-pistol-and-steal-it with the bad elder. Most of the endings feature them all getting killed though, including the best ending (House). F3 was the one where they split into the 'maybe we should help the locals who are getting gangfucked by super mutants nonstop' faction versus the 'gently caress that, steal their laser pistols' faction. It's somewhat hidden away in audio logs in F4, but the implication is that when Maxson hit puberty he helped the dickhead faction kill off all the altruistically minded leaders to bring the two factions back together. Basically, F4 retconned them back into being the same fuckers they were in F1/2.
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# ? Dec 27, 2017 03:22 |
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So, basically, 21st century American politics ...
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# ? Dec 27, 2017 04:36 |
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Wolfsheim posted:
Incidentally why I'm more than happy to infiltrate the BoS and betray them to the Railroad/Institute. Fucker had it coming.
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# ? Dec 27, 2017 07:42 |
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Dang is it new year's eve already?
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# ? Dec 27, 2017 22:52 |
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Are there any festivities in Diamond City? Are you invited somewhere?
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# ? Dec 27, 2017 22:59 |
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irrelevant to the mission of getting a load of food and settlers over to the Castle to segue to the preparation to connect the supply lines up the coast.
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# ? Dec 27, 2017 23:06 |
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Sky Shadowing posted:A good twist to the Institute is Evil thing would have been if it wasn't them murdering the people and replacing them with synths. If that had been the Railroad hiding the synths from the Institute. God drat it. I wish Bethesda had hired more nerds to review it's poo poo. I just Hope Fallout 5 is set to Florida and involves more new and interesting factions like communist cubans, jamaican prirates, ghoul enslaving dixies and isolationist seminoles, with a flooded Miami and an Orlando controlled by an animalistic cult.
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# ? Dec 28, 2017 00:07 |
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Plus the Aquaboy perk, I made some hardshell diving armor.
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# ? Dec 28, 2017 00:15 |
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osirisisdead posted:Plus the Aquaboy perk, I made some hardshell diving armor. I had the same impulse soon as I saw the raider PA e:ah, i thought that was taken underwater
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# ? Dec 28, 2017 00:26 |
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I need to walk to the Castle first for an emergency supply run and then I'm going to walk to Nordwhatever.
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# ? Dec 28, 2017 00:29 |
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osirisisdead posted:irrelevant to the mission of getting a load of food and settlers over to the Castle to segue to the preparation to connect the supply lines up the coast. You can ferry settlers between settlements?
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# ? Dec 28, 2017 00:36 |
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I wish the power-armour types had their separate pros and cons instead of being purely linear in terms of stats with the x-01 on top.
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# ? Dec 28, 2017 00:45 |
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Ensign Expendable posted:You can ferry settlers between settlements? I think you just select them in Workshop Mode and you can tell them "Move" ... though I can't get Preston or Sturges out of Sanctuary.
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# ? Dec 28, 2017 00:52 |
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Have him following you and then dismiss him to wherever you want him.
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# ? Dec 28, 2017 01:19 |
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John F Bennett posted:Are there any festivities in Diamond City? Are you invited somewhere? Unfortunately, no. There's a few Christmas fairy-lights about for the 25th of December, some Halloween decorations around for the 31st of October. I don't think there are any other 'holidays' celebrated in Diamond City.
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# ? Dec 28, 2017 01:32 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 21:45 |
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I'm irked that Preston didn't stick at The Castle and everyone just left that one dude on the radio, but I sent a bunch of Settlers that way and I am heading in with Tato's and Carrots to get a vegetable soup garden going. I want to see if they teleport, or die, or what. Idk it seems like they like the bar I installed at the Rocket...
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