loquacius posted:

The House is more valuable here, though (since control of the House gets you #2 in the line of succession) and it is particularly out of reach for us until at least 2020 due to gerrymandering.

Harry Enten posted:

First, Democrats are probably favorites to win the House. Their current advantage is larger than the lead Republicans had at this point in the 1994 cycle, the lead Democrats held at this point in the 2006 cycle or the lead Republicans had at this point in the 2010 cycle. Those were all years when the minority party won control of the House. And a 12 percentage point Democratic advantage in the national House vote come next November would likely be more than enough for the House to flip again. I’ve previously calculated that the Democrats need to win the national House vote by 5.5 to 8 points to win the House.

loquacius posted:

in what way

the GOP will still run Congress and they will rally around him because he's (a) racist, (b) a dedicated servant of their rich donors, and (c) decorous

Any GOP-run Congress that (miraculously) agrees to remove Trump from office will frame the entire thing as a pro-Pence movement and come out of it just as powerful as before.

Katt posted:

The greatest generation should be upset to see all these demonstrations against nazism after all they fought for.

loquacius posted:

I'm not really confident in 538 being gospel after the last election, sorry. If the Dems manage to surprise me and take both houses in 2018 I will dance a little jig (no though sorry) but I'm not holding my breath.

I honestly kind of agree that this is a meaningless conversation, though. The power of either Trump or Pence to do significant damage is highly dependent on the disposition of Congress, which is the same factor that determines whether an impeachment is even possible, meaning that whether and when we can swing that is a more important conversation by far than whether it'd be a good idea to replace the insane orange Nazi with the stoic Nazi terrified of his own penis.

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Utah's biggest newspaper anointed the state's longtime Republican senator, Orrin G. Hatch, as its “Utahn of the year,” a distinction that came with a nearly full-page photo on the paper's front page on Christmas Day.

The senator seemed to appreciate the recognition, tweeting an image of the front page and thanking the Salt Lake Tribune for “this great Christmas honor.”

But the Tribune's distinction wasn't exactly an honor, in the strictest sense of the word.

Along with a news article and the photo, the newspaper published a scathing editorial that took aim at the senator's recent record, most notably his part in the Trump administration's decision to shrink two national monuments in the state, and said that the designation was meant to anoint the Utahn who had had the most impact, “for good or for ill.”

Hatch had earned the title because of his part in the “dramatic dismantling” of the Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante national monuments, his role in helping to pass the recent tax code overhaul, and his “utter lack of integrity that rises from his unquenchable thirst for power,” the editorial board wrote.

Matthew 19 1-9 posted:

When Jesus had finished saying these things, he left Galilee and went into the region of Judea to the other side of the Jordan. 2 Large crowds followed him, and he healed them there.

3 Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”

4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

7 “Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”

8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

Matthew 19:10-12 posted:

10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”

11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”

MelvinBison posted:

Key phrase there is "at the beginning."

e.: You know what? gently caress it, I'll make this an effort post.

The passage he's quoting deals with Jesus responding to a group of Pharisees who, as they do at several points in Christ's life, ask questions about Jewish law for justification to try him for heresy. Here's the full passage:

Jesus is using that passage to call out religious leaders at the time on their own hypocrisy, not to call out non-binary genders. As a matter of fact:

Christ says there are some people who don't fit the heterosexual template. And that's okay.

Katt posted:

The greatest generation should be upset to see all these demonstrations against nazism after all they fought for.

Sandpuppy posted:

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Golbez posted:

What? I am so confused. Is he saying flying to Thailand causes global warming? But if you want snow why would you go to Thailand? Or is it a matter of, if there's no snow we might as well go to Thailand? And finally: "why it isn't snow" I can see a way in which this works, but this comic hasn't earned that path.

Sandpuppy posted:

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Can't wait to drown to death in Economic Recovery!

Jurgan posted:

538 were pretty good overall. They said over and over again that Trump had a real chance, and ultimately gave him a 1/3 chance of winning. There was no way anyone could say Trump was the favorite based on the polls, but they said Trump was "a normal polling error away from winning." They were far more accurate than the people who said Clinton had a 99% chance of winning.

Sandpuppy posted:

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Cabbit posted:

So this is Red Panels, right? This is totally the Red Panels guy.

Trogdos! posted:

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Cloud Potato posted:

Jo Johnson to tell universities to stop 'no-platforming' speakers

Sandpuppy posted:

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Dr. Stab posted:

Richard Spencer was a WW2 vet?

Hihohe posted:

British comics have me convinced that island resides in the Warp where beings of raw emotion roil and convulse while saying "oval office"

Hihohe posted:

British comics have me convinced that island resides in the Warp where beings of raw emotion roil and convulse while saying "oval office"

The Sausages posted:

I'm guessing their target audience is the kind of people who don't see the irony of saying "First they came for the Nazis..." even though that's not even what's happening.

The Sausages posted:

loquacius posted:

yeah this argument is literally "we don't need a social safety net because we have charities"

Katt posted:

The greatest generation should be upset to see all these demonstrations against nazism after all they fought for.

The Sausages posted:

I'm guessing their target audience is the kind of people who don't see the irony of saying "First they came for the Nazis..." even though that's not even what's happening.

Johnny Walker posted:

I don't have to believe in the Bible to point out your hypocrisy in cherry-picking from it.

Katt posted:

The greatest generation should be upset to see all these demonstrations against nazism after all they fought for.

Samurai Sanders posted:

Man I wanna know from conservatives what this big government thing is right now, if it's not the party that is in control of everything.