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white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich
I was extremely committed to Hillary winning and happily voted for her and would fight anyone online or irl that mentioned anything about her slave-owning tendencies but once she lost I began to make fun of her to fit in with the people who remained on these dead gay forums

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punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

comedyblissoption posted:

Chomsky explains why the soviet union was not socialist or a transition to socialism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06-XcAiswY4

Just because the soviet union called themselves socialist does not mean you should believe that they were socialist. Socialist in this case means the classical definition of democratic control of economic decisions. This would be like believing that they were also democratic because they called themselves democratic.

Apologists will claim that the soviet union's state capitalism was an attempt to transition to socialism, but then you have to ask yourself why the soviet union transitioned to privatized capitalism instead.

This is why Lenin sucks.

gradenko_2000 posted:

And by these standards, are there any states that are or were socialist? Like, is/was Castro any better? Venezuela?

Venezuela claimed that they were doing this to an extent "Socialism in the 21st century" but despite the lipservice gave workers and residents very little options of control over the government.

To add to this, people always bring up Venezuela, but never mention Bolivia who is right next door and follow the same populist statism, and is currently one of the fastest growing economies and poverty declining nations in the world. But nevertheless it still isn't following many socialist tenets.

Tiberius Christ posted:

Cuba may be on the way to be a true socialist nation, one where the workers own the means of production. It's still very communist though, but they've started a huge co-op sector in the past 5 years and it's really made some major changes. Wages have quadrupled, the people feel way more in control of their lives, as an example I was reading an article about a bus co-op that is expanding faster than anyone could have imagined. If you give local communities access to their own labor power they can do amazing poo poo with it.

There were talks about this but I wonder how many autonomy they really have due to the clot and regulations imposed by the state.

punk rebel ecks has issued a correction as of 20:11 on Dec 28, 2017

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Breakfast All Day posted:

mentioning anything about hillarys past before 2015 other than the purposefully vague "she was politically involved in early civil rights" and "supported crime reform legislation" and "spoke her mind on gay marriage" and "instrumental in the discussion around race in the Obama 2008 campaign" and "experienced in mideast politics" is sexist
she also said she literally told wall street to "cut it out" in a debate

oh wait im not supposed to say that that's sexist

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

to be fair to state capitalist autocratic dictators, some of them did extraordinarily better for their society from impoverished beginnings than the common alternative of 'free market' capitalism

a protectionist corrupt kind-of-capitalist economy seems to work okay too if you look at countries like south korea

'works okay' is relative to something like the crushing poverty of most south american, latin american, and african countries told to embrace 'free market' ideology

comedyblissoption has issued a correction as of 20:13 on Dec 28, 2017

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

https://twitter.com/dictionarycom/status/946100966977306624
I regret to inform you all that the hillarymen have seized control of the dictionary

belgend
Mar 6, 2008

me when The Club do another win

dictionary.com .... welcome to the resistance


resistance is defined by dictionary.com as

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
Does the government pay for people's disability benefits?

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

punk rebel ecks posted:

Does the government pay for people's disability benefits?

yes, under a social security program that Gary Cohn convinced trump technically isn’t social security and is therefore MAGA to cut :smugdon:

Distant Chicken
Aug 15, 2007

comedyblissoption posted:

she also said she literally told wall street to "cut it out" in a debate

oh wait im not supposed to say that that's sexist

lol unless i’m misremembering she would tell them to cut it out, like in the future

platzapS
Aug 4, 2007

Raskolnikov38 posted:

lol it’s where you can give what you'd normally donate to the homeless to democrats who then give it to orgs that actually give it to the homeless

It's probably a grift but it's interesting to me that neither party engages in direct-aid base-building efforts.

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Remember when Kamala Harris decided not to prosecute any bankers

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


can’t wait til the next uk general election when all the donuts protect theresa may from criticism by corbyn

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


white sauce posted:

Remember when Kamala Harris decided not to prosecute any bankers

including mnuchin

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

including mnuchin

Sociopaths gotta look out for one another :discourse:

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

OatmealRaisin posted:

lol unless i’m misremembering she would tell them to cut it out, like in the future
she was talking about the banks in the past when she was a senator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_3lPM_5S4M

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011

Fallen Hamprince posted:

gently caress off hamprince

never

Tiberius Christ
Mar 4, 2009

Fallen Hamprince posted:

https://twitter.com/dictionarycom/status/946100966977306624
I regret to inform you all that the hillarymen have seized control of the dictionary

yowzas the amount of replies from the hill people for a really tepid burn

Dairy Days
Dec 26, 2007

hillary clinton should take up rough framing

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
thesaurus.com would have won

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Matt Zerella posted:

thesaurus.com would have won

a huge racist already won

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



so are you allowed to tell women without ivy league graduate degrees to stay home

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

logikv9 posted:

a huge racist already won

wait what? I though the one who called black people super predators and literally owned slaves lost?

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


it was the russians..... again!!

https://twitter.com/riotwomennn/status/945998992294531072

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
telling someone to take up knitting is sexist but it's also very funny

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Matt Zerella posted:

wait what? I though the one who called black people super predators and literally owned slaves lost?

I mean you're the one saying the saurus would've won :shrug:

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

shoulda picked gende-rneutral hobby like fan-dubbing anime or the tropical fishkeeping

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
the ultimate final LOL that will be had at the end of all this is when bernie wins the primary in 2020 everyone of these crazed lunatics will act as if they were always on board

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

logikv9 posted:

I mean you're the one saying the saurus would've won :shrug:

:eyepop:

nice.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
do not get me started on fan dubbing, which is being RUINED by SJWs,

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:

Raskolnikov38 posted:

lol it’s where you can give what you'd normally donate to the homeless to democrats who then give it to orgs that actually give it to the homeless

Humble Bundle does the same thing and with actual transparency, plus you get some Star Trek audiobooks and anime harassment simulators on the side.

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich
https://twitter.com/eileendefreest/status/945976594308444161?s=17

Behold, the white masters that we so desperately need to have in the Democratic Party

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

logikv9 posted:

do not get me started on fan dubbing, which is being RUINED by SJWs,

https://twitter.com/broderick/status/848586734640263168

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
i still however maintain my theory that following this stuff and reading #resistance tweets to make yourself mad breaks your brain sorry

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Venom Snake posted:

the ultimate final LOL that will be had at the end of all this is when bernie wins the primary in 2020 everyone of these crazed lunatics will act as if they were always on board

2020 general is gonna end like metal gear solid 4

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

Notorious R.I.M.
Jan 27, 2004

up to my ass in alligators

white sauce posted:

https://twitter.com/eileendefreest/status/945976594308444161?s=17

Behold, the white masters that we so desperately need to have in the Democratic Party

I'm a big fan of this argument because it works very well when looking at races like Luther Strange v Roy Moore 8)

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

Even tho I hate Trump I'm glad hillary lost

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

"hillary clinton shuld kill arself"

"if she did kill herself, and im sure she could in spectacular fashion, the devil would send her soul right back up to earth because she always bounces back"

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Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Uncle Wemus posted:

Even tho I hate Trump I'm glad hillary lost

I remember as the results were rolling in, going "well... the only upside of this is we'll stop hearing about what a good politician Hillary is."

My god, how naive I was.

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