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Alkydere posted:If Elon Musk can actually get us, as a species, to start tip-toeing off this dying planet he can showboat as much as he loving wants. 
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Paracaidas posted:Twice! Build the Wall(around Alabama)! Also my two cent about the intern pic. 1) Probably the whitiest it's been in the last 8 maybe even 16 or 24 years. 2) Donnie probably asked for the women to stand next to him.
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Space travel owns, though. Lot of power in optimism, and in believing there's reason to be optimistic. We need something.
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space travel isn't a publicity stunt or a jobs program it was a way of harnessing public optimism about science creating a better world, to justify lavish spending on extraordinarily destructive weapons programs
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im paraphrasing heavily from acme novelty #19 here
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boner confessor posted:space travel isn't a publicity stunt or a jobs program And you just described a publicity stunt.
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Rinkles posted:Space travel owns, though. Lot of power in optimism, and in believing there's reason to be optimistic. We need something. *We* need something. That's the problem. The war right now isn't against ISIS or ~terrists~, it's in the political system ensuring we're fighting each other. Pick a reason: it keeps re-election chances high, it keeps the rich getting richer, it's easier than risking everything to actually *fix* something and risk pissing off a key donor. There's no profit in the cure or treatment, just in making sure the disease gets worse.
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Oh, well if you're looking for a way to capture the public imagination and get them united behind a common goal and purpose, and drive the economy forward as a nice side bonus, I can think of no better inspiration than the October Revolution of 1917.
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Kilroy posted:Oh, well if you're looking for a way to capture the public imagination and get them united behind a common goal and purpose, and drive the economy forward as a nice side bonus, I can think of no better inspiration than the October Revolution of 1917. bleh
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Exploration is a publicity stunt.
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exploration is a great thing *spends a kajillion dollars building a space station roughly 250 miles from the earth's surface*
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if you could drive a honda civic straight up into the air, it would take about four hours to get to the ISS exploration!
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Every dollar we spend on the space program returns $10-14. It's quite literally the best investment we've ever made.
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boner confessor posted:
oh nevermind, you're doing a bit and talking out of your rear end
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ah sorry i pissed on musk's real accomplishments such as, and also
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privatized the space industry with fiscally sustainable systems that make future space travel possible (imagine where air travel would be if planes were not reusable, same concept) forced the entire auto industry to shift to electric at least a decade earlier than they would have otherwise which makes a big goddamn dent in the climate change fight but yeah, he's just a paypal hack 
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Not to mention the power wall greatly increases the efficiency of the  market, so you'd think this forum would be all for it
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Bottom Liner posted:Every dollar we spend on the space program returns $10-14. It's quite literally the best investment we've ever made. I'll grant you it certainly can have a good return on investment, but that's far from the best return out of a government program. Energy efficiency programs return ~$40 for ever $1 spent. And on the extreme end the Malcolm Baldrige National Quality Award returns $820 for every $1 spent.
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privatized the space industry while accepting billions of dollars from the us government https://www.nasa.gov/content/nasa-chooses-american-companies-to-transport-us-astronauts-to-international-space-station also lol at musk forcing electric vehicles when toyota has been selling hybrids since the late nineties dont waste my time if you're just a wired magazine techbro fellator giddy over star trek fantasies of space communism boner confessor fucked around with this message at 08:02 on Dec 29, 2017 |
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Kelly posted:There is so, so much in this interview but this: But, like, dude said out loud that the Democrats should've won.
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Welp science doesn't have a good enough quarterly ROI gently caress it and defund it.
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Pakled posted:Not really, no. The thing went like "haha libs are so stupid they'll believe the OK signal is a white power gesture if we start pretending like it is" and so they started using it as a white power gesture which turned into media reporting on it being a white power gesture to which they reacted "haha stupid libs got owned, we played them like a fiddle" Yeah, I didn't think so. The way the post was worded made it sound there were a few who said "WAIT! We're not REALLY racist! We were just trolling those libs who unfairly say we are!"
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I'm surprised people can even be optimistic about space travel. It took the USA like three generations to go "gently caress England" I bet the citizens of Mars will tell earth to gently caress off within 30 years of becoming independent resource wise. Then starts the space wars of dominance over resources, moons and planets. "Martian born Rick Johnson elected governor of The Moon. Promises higher taxes on imports from Earth and a stronger trade relationship with the Republic of Mars. Threatens Earth with moon mineral sanctions if Earths blockade of Venus asteroid cluster is not lifted. Permitting Martian harvester ships access after UN declares Venus asteroids to be within international space" "Earth President Ivanka Trump the third, threatens pre-emptive strike on the moon after silos believed to contain Martian Planet Cracker torpedoes were observed by satellite near a supposed mineral refinery. Governor Johnson maintains that they are merely storage silos and invite UN inspectors to confirm it" "Planet Cracker Torpedoes within Earths missile defence grid violates the treaty of Phobos said president Trump. A UN investigation holds no credibility and we will only accept an investigation carried out by Earth-mil officials who must be granted full jurisdiction during their investigation on The Moon" Either that or Mars never achieves resource independence and becomes subservient to earth with people living in squalor in the Mars mineral mines. Working 80 hour weeks in exchange for oxygen and nutrient credits to spend at the mining corporations company store. I mean we can dehumanize people living in the same city as ourselves. Never mind people living on another planet. People will be going "Martians have a right to 8 hour workdays and Sundays off" and people on earth will be going "My grandfather grew up in the early 2000s and had to work 100 hour weeks and he was only paid in raw potatoes. Why should Martians who are not even human get more of my money?" The Gigafactory already has labour rights issues and Musk hasn't even gotten off the planet yet. Katt fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Dec 29, 2017 |
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PhazonLink posted:Welp science doesn't have a good enough quarterly ROI gently caress it and defund it. maybe let's not cream ourselves over science as the savior of all things when science is also what lies at the root of our problems maybe, uh, vacant industrialism and the relentless drive to create more advanced technology is, uh, kind of what's loving up our ecosystem? maybe? nah. better not to imagine that. i wouldn't want to think that i'm complicit at all in pollution and the degradation of the ecosystem through my consumer behavior
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No you see it's not a white power gesture, it's white power innuendo, that's different, get owned libcucks
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boner confessor posted:maybe let's not cream ourselves over science as the savior of all things when science is also what lies at the root of our problems Your response is nihilism, or were you only half joking earlier?
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People laughed at Musk when he said he was going to work on reusable rockets that can land upright. Who is laughing now, fuckers?
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It took us millions of years to adapt to life on this planet and techbros want to abandon it so they can live in a series of dingy hamster tubes on a big dusty shitball.
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boner confessor posted:maybe let's not cream ourselves over science as the savior of all things when science is also what lies at the root of our problems Marx was right
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boner confessor posted:maybe let's not cream ourselves over science as the savior of all things when science is also what lies at the root of our problems You should be part of the solution, start by throwing your computer away.
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Protect the gorgeous vista right outside my window? Oh no no sir, I need to do a few more calculations so that in 50 years 8 miserable jackasses can strain sand for copper for 13 hours a day.
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DiggityDoink posted:This was my dad. We haven't talked for a long time now but his motto was "If there's no cops, there's no laws." This mostly had to deal with driving and speeding when there weren't any around but it really brings up the time he showed me some seriously questionable porn on his computer when I was around 15 asking me what I thought of it. You don't deserve to put up with your weirdo of a dad. Katt posted:Earth President Ivanka Trump the third  I honestly feel we need to get a lot better at actually equitable societies before we can manage to live off Earth in any numbers, otherwise our fragile habitats will just get wrecked by the first rear end in a top hat who gets mad about something.
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boner confessor posted:exploration is a great thing *spends a kajillion dollars building a space station roughly 250 miles from the earth's surface* I've seen well-reasoned arguments against spending a lot of money on space, or ofwhy Musk in particular is no one to celebrate. The only way this post could be further from one is if you had literally said "You can't explore space, I can see it from right here!" instead of just implying it.
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Nerds want to live on Mars to test if "Not if you were the last man on the planet" holds up after a few months.
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Well, I could live on the only planet in the known universe that I can walk around on, breathe on and eat poo poo off the ground on. Alternatively, i could spend my days on a planet half my lifespan away and drink my own reconstituted piss infinitely.
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boner confessor posted:maybe let's not cream ourselves over science as the savior of all things when science is also what lies at the root of our problems wow, you really went full on hippie with this post
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Azhais posted:Marx was right Wherever you go... whatever you do... Tesla will be right here, waiting for you.
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I choose to worship Bezos as the techbro lord and savior.
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Eox posted:It took us millions of years to adapt to life on this planet and techbros want to abandon it so they can live in a series of dingy hamster tubes on a big dusty shitball. Look how reliant humanity is on a very small group of people with an insane leader not ordering a nuclear attack he so obviously wants an excuse to order. As long as we're dependant on a single planet, with the power to make that planet virtually unlivable for humanity, we're extremely vulnerable as a species.
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