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ajkalan
Aug 17, 2011

Update on previous page.

Hifumi's shogi-piece dress looks cool.

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fivepapers
Nov 2, 2017
Yeah, I think I'd rather have Hifumi as a team member and Yusuke as a confident too. I always felt like Yusuke was mostly just there, and not really....feeling like part of the team? Like I felt the team members in P4 were more or less close enough with each other but with Yusuke, he only really interacts with MC and maybe Futuba later on. Another reason would be avoiding the awful blackmailing plot but I'm sure they'd find another excuse to put that in.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


Tora should've been a missable party member - recruitable, but not important to the plot. That way it wouldn't gently caress up the central theme of ROTTEN ADULTS while still allowing the story to be like "oh hey, not all adults with responsibility/power are total garbage".

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

You can sort of see the skeleton of what might have been Hifumi's recruitment arc as her Social Link goes on.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
The movie scene is amazing for just how adorable Makoto is. Also I never really held what Yusuke did at the start against him as due to everything we have seen from hanging out with him, it seems most of that could be blamed on being under the influence of a complete piece of poo poo.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Yoshida still owns.

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.

fivepapers posted:

Yeah, I think I'd rather have Hifumi as a team member and Yusuke as a confident too. I always felt like Yusuke was mostly just there, and not really....feeling like part of the team? Like I felt the team members in P4 were more or less close enough with each other but with Yusuke, he only really interacts with MC and maybe Futuba later on. Another reason would be avoiding the awful blackmailing plot but I'm sure they'd find another excuse to put that in.

I imagine the problem is that two 'smart' characters don't mesh as well in scenes and can often make one of them seem redundant. P3 had Mitsuru and Fuuka, but they were smart in different ways. P4 had Yukiko who was only book-smart, and Naoto who was a bit more on the ball. In P5 you already have Makoto and Futaba, so there isn't a lot Hifumi would be able to contribute to scenes without tweaking her character.

Of course, every game has a problem with party members who just kinda flat around after a while. P3 somehow handled it best despite having the largest cast; the only really superflous member is Fuuka (and Koromaru but he's best dog).

TheGreatEvilKing
Mar 28, 2016





Kith posted:

Tora should've been a missable party member - recruitable, but not important to the plot. That way it wouldn't gently caress up the central theme of ROTTEN ADULTS while still allowing the story to be like "oh hey, not all adults with responsibility/power are total garbage".

He doesn't really have responsibility or power though - he's kinda the guy fighting a doomed crusade that goes nowhere with no real resources but perseverance.

Blademaster_Aio
Jan 22, 2017

I don't think Hifumi can contribute anything to the party dynamic.

We have Makoto.

Yusuke is a better party member. And his confidant is great.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
That burger... through a mysterious energy, it attracts every other burger in the universe with a force proportional to the product of their masses, and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them!

Blademaster_Aio
Jan 22, 2017

Glazius posted:

That burger... through a mysterious energy, it attracts every other burger in the universe with a force proportional to the product of their masses, and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them!

It's amazing how stuffing our face with a burger made us more charming.

Nothing is more charming than some guy winning a challenge that involves scarfing down food I guess.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Sadly, I feel like Yusuke and Hifumi would end up filling the same role in the party (though maybe Hifumi won't end up blackmailing the party, so that's a plus on her). They both seem like great characters in their confidant scenes because it actually focuses on exploring their character arc.

But if Hifumi had been the party member instead, I can totally see the main writer reducing into someone one-note whose only contribution to the party is shouting wacky chuuni lines.

Blademaster_Aio posted:

I don't think Hifumi can contribute anything to the party dynamic.

We have Makoto.

Yusuke is a better party member. And his confidant is great.

What DOES Yusuke contribute to the party dynamic, exactly? The only thing I can remember is him constantly going on how he's hungry. He's like Ilyana in Fire Emblem to me.

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


He's a little weird and that's kind of funny is the main one. Also he improved the calling cards dramatically, so mostly he brings a sense of artistic style that a good phantom thief team needs I guess?

GuyUpNorth
Apr 29, 2014

Witty phrases on random basis
Hifumi was a party member in early drafts with concept art, before the story went through some major revisions that necessitated a new character. Some traces of that still exist if Arist or someone else delves into it.

LightningKimba
Nov 5, 2010

Unleashing my best...

LUMINARY UPPERCUT!!

But the important question is - What element would Hifumi even have, if she were in the party? :v:

Deltasquid
Apr 10, 2013

awww...
you guys made me ink!


THUNDERDOME
Maybe some sort of physical damage + fire gimmick, in between Ann and Yusuke in style? Or extreme buffer + debuffer, as she's the Queen of Shogi and I think it's mostly Maaku covering the role of having every single buff and debuff on him.

Nevertheless I like Yusuke. He doesn't add that much to the party dynamic except he's that chill cool guy hanging out in the back who probably drinks expensive coffee and then complains that he's broke, but he must, for that's AeStHeTiC. I bet he's the guy who puts on acid jazz at every meeting and only gets away with it because Maaku is a massive dork as well. He fills a niche of "elegance in thievery" in the way that Ryuji is the more Western punk-graffiti style, Ann is the seductress type and Makoto is the cool biker.

GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

Hunt11 posted:

The movie scene is amazing for just how adorable Makoto is. Also I never really held what Yusuke did at the start against him as due to everything we have seen from hanging out with him, it seems most of that could be blamed on being under the influence of a complete piece of poo poo.
Yeah, it really is the best part of that movie date. She just can't get enough of those Yakuza movies.

GuyUpNorth posted:

Hifumi was a party member in early drafts with concept art, before the story went through some major revisions that necessitated a new character. Some traces of that still exist if Arist or someone else delves into it.

Surprised it took that long into the discussion for someone to bring this up. I thought Hifumi being a cut party member was common knowledge amongst people who followed the information around this game. Would've been cool to see, how her chuuni side would've come out and what her Persona would've been. Her Confidant abilities play off of her shogi prowess to make her a sort of strategic planner, so it probably would've have had something to do with that. Makoto has the tactical party member niche down though.

Deltasquid posted:

Nevertheless I like Yusuke. He doesn't add that much to the party dynamic except he's that chill cool guy hanging out in the back who probably drinks expensive coffee and then complains that he's broke, but he must, for that's AeStHeTiC. I bet he's the guy who puts on acid jazz at every meeting and only gets away with it because Maaku is a massive dork as well. He fills a niche of "elegance in thievery" in the way that Ryuji is the more Western punk-graffiti style, Ann is the seductress type and Makoto is the cool biker.

I never really had a problem with Yusuke, but he wasn't my favorite character either. He was just kinda there as a character to me. He seems cool and is good for a laugh from time to time with how his whole artistic outlook leads him to do weird stuff, but otherwise he didn't make much of an impression on me like other characters did. Didn't really have a problem with his blackmail stuff like others seem to have either.

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.
Yusuke is basically the voice of reason in the group along with Ann. Ryuji's a hothead and Makoto, while intelligent, has a bit of insecurity that makes her second-guess a lot of things (like how she keeps fretting about bothering Futaba).

Yusuke and Ann don't have a lot of personal hangups and have a cooler head than Ryuji, so they're often the people that go, 'wait a minute, I think that might not be the best idea' without mulling over it for ages. Or sometimes their 'foot in the mouth' syndrome leads to them bringing up the ugly questions that need to be asked, like how Ann point-blank asks Futaba if Wakaba commited suicide (which wasn't exactly tactful, but it made the plot move forward).

Of course, in a group setting, they kinda have to fade in the background since they just chime in with a 'wait Ryuji you're an idiot' every now and then to keep the plot moving.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Ubiquitous_ posted:

From how it’s been presented in trailers so far, the third Catherine is transgender. But not transgender in an open-minded sense, but more in the “she’s a trap” sense.

How the game handles it is still a question mark, but the initial impression is not good.

There is nothing to present that. We just see Vincent shocked to seeing her naked. (He did the same thing with Catherine.)

MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Dec 29, 2017

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Really Pants posted:

if this one is the saxophoney dungeon intro, it's called Muscle Blues

Nah, it's the actual dungeon music.

Stroth
Mar 31, 2007

All Problems Solved

LightningKimba posted:

But the important question is - What element would Hifumi even have, if she were in the party? :v:

You're assuming that the super skilled strategist that teaches you combat maneuvers wasn't meant to be your mission control?

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

LightningKimba posted:

But the important question is - What element would Hifumi even have, if she were in the party? :v:

Light & Dark, obvs

LightningKimba
Nov 5, 2010

Unleashing my best...

LUMINARY UPPERCUT!!

Stroth posted:

You're assuming that the super skilled strategist that teaches you combat maneuvers wasn't meant to be your mission control?

Y’know upon retrospect, if we didn’t have Futaba, Hifumi is practically our navigator bundled up nicely.

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.
They could switch off depending on the player's choice. Considering how much Futaba is "sleeping", Hifumi could've substituted in for those occasions.

Stroth
Mar 31, 2007

All Problems Solved

LightningKimba posted:

Y’know upon retrospect, if we didn’t have Futaba, Hifumi is practically our navigator bundled up nicely.

"They cannot stand against the righteous anger of the Phantom Thieves! Rend them to ash with the fury of the black sun!"

"Wha?"

"They're weak to fire Skull. drat plebeians I just don't know why I bother sometimes."

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


If Hifumi was a Navigator Choice from Madarame onwards that would be fantastic. I don’t hate Morgana that much but his navigation voice lines are so awful.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Part 83: 8/2-8/4: Ryuji Has Bad Taste In Porn




I heard stocks are down. Is that because of Medjed?
I really wish they wouldn’t do this...
I heard some other company’s private data got leaked...
What are the Phantom Thieves doing!?

Music: Beneath the Mask (Instrumental Version)





There’s actually something I think I should tell you… ...But I can’t make up my mind. …Sorry, never mind. Forget what I said.
I’m eating now. Maybe I should respond later...



Oh, and make sure you eat your curry before it gets cold.



Music: Tokyo Emergency



New message from Mishima. Probably another request.



I can’t keep up with this constant influx of posts. Isn’t it tough being popular, #Millennials? Anyway, here’s the latest lead I have. This one seems to be about… someone abusing their power? I wonder if it was written by a former employee of the company in question.



You can’t seriously just be accepting of that!

I was being facetious, Mishima.

Now, I know the name of the company, but I don’t have any details on the person himself. The company’s over in Shinjuku, so try asking around places where business men could hang out. A bar at night might be a start. That should be a good place to get more info on this situation. I hope this isn’t asking too much of you… Sorry, I’ll look for another one, just in case.
It’d be a shame to let this one slip away. This is a textbook example of corporate exploitation. It might be difficult to get the employees to open up to you though… Maybe if you get a job at a bar, you’ll be able to learn some information.




Translation: we can make one more tool than usual if we start during the day.

Music: Everyday Days






Ranking up Morgana’s Confidant has given us a plethora of new tools we can make, including the Eternal Lockpick (never breaks, but we don’t have the materials yet), and Reserve Ammo (lets us refill our ammunition without leaving the Palace)

We choose to make more Lockpicks. We’re at Rank 3, meaning we can make 4, plus it’s daytime, so we get an extra craft. Once I savescum trying to get the double craft bonus to proc, it actually procs twice, meaning we end the day with another seven lockpicks in addition to the one we already had. Now, this would almost be enough to last us through the entire rest of the game, but we have a lot of free time in the next month or so and not a lot of opportunities to increase our Proficiency, so we’re not done just yet.

Maaku gains Proficiency +3, including the bonus +1 from the double craft proc.

Music: Beneath the Mask




...#Millennials.” They’ve been in the spotlight with their upcoming showdown with Medjed. The Phantom Thieves are a hot topic, and they are among the most commonly searched terms…
People really like us. We can’t afford to mess this up now.



Let’s see what’s going on over in Book Town.

Well then, let’s go in the store.



Our bookstore caters to experts, so the books here might be a tad difficult for most high schoolers.

My Knowledge is Rank 4, motherfucker. Hand me Infinite Jest and get the hell out of my sight.

Well, I’ll sell you the easiest book that we’ve got. Go ahead and take your time with it.



8000 yen!? On second thought, let’s not…

The way this store works is that the owner will sell you the least challenging book, and until you complete it, you can’t buy another. Once you do finish it, you can buy the next one in the sequence and so on. There are three main books, each longer than any other book in the game, plus a final book, which I’ll be trying to get (but might not make it to). It’s well worth the effort of reading the others, trust me.



However, could we discuss another matter?
>Hang out with her
Thank you… I’m closing up shop, so please hold on.

Music: Alright (Elp Version)



I mean, the fortunes I see have an extremely high accuracy rate. But… I suppose my divine power isn’t completely absolute, huh?



Well, of course… but I’m sure that would only end in disappointment… You know, I’ve wondered in the past whether fate really can be changed… But I always concluded that it was something beyond our control. Almost like the laws of nature. Eternal… impossible to defy… And yet, there exist people like you who can ignore those laws and impose their own will upon the world… How can I become one of those people, Hamiru-san?




This city keeps finding ways to subvert my expectations… There was nobody like you back in my hometown in the country, Hamiru-san. It was a small, traditional town deep in the mountains, populated almost entirely by older people…



And so, so boring.

During the winter, it’s practically inaccessible due to all the snow. That alone should tell you volumes. The youth there are forced to be strictly obedient to their elders as well. Not explicitly, of course… Oh, and there’s a small shrine in the center of the village. There, I...



...It doesn’t matter anymore. I left that place to come to this city. It means nothing to me now!



It came from someone who dared to care about me, even though I’m just a monster with strange powers… That’s why I sell Holy Stones. I want to help those who suffer from inescapable fates similar to my own.

Well, that’s better than just being a straight-up con artist, but doesn’t really explain why you sold me a hunk of rock salt.

But… now I wonder if they really do much of anything.

I thought the answer was clearly “no.” Didn’t you already believe that?

After all, you managed to change the destinies of my clients without one. Is it truly possible to alter fate with nothing more than mere words, attitude, and passion…?



Chihaya throws the stone away.



If that’s the case, I won’t be needing this. I’m going to confront fate head-on, with my own strength.

Wow! Short Confidant, but we did it, you guys!

Although… the chairman would be really mad if he found out.





Anyway…! If fate can be changed… Maybe even mine can be corrected… right? It didn’t work for me before, but perhaps this time...



R-Right! I look forward to our continued exchange! At least, until I can manage to change my fate… Oh, and I’ll be sure to put some extra effort into my fortune-telling for you!
I can sense Chihaya’s intense motivation...



Thank you for today, Hamiru-san. Good night!



Music: Break it Down (Elp Version)



I’ll bring over a DVD that’s perfect for this stinking hot summer.

This sounds… untoward. I’m down for whatever, though. Bring on the porn!

We can watch it in your room, yeah? That settles it. See ya tomorrow
We should get some sleep if Ryuji’s going to be here during the day tomorrow.



Music: Beneath the Mask -Rain (Instrumental Version)



Sounds like Ryuji’s here. Come on, let’s go downstairs.



I’m sure it’s to protect us from hacking, but communicating with clients like this is tough.
Whatever those Phantom Thieves are, people are making too big of a deal about them.



First up is this soccer one. Then we’ve got baseball here. Oh, and a track and field one! Good poo poo, man.

…Goddammit, Ryuji.

I may be able to improve my Charm if I watch DVDs with Ryuji… Furthermore, this may be a good chance to deepen my bond with him...
So if we’re not gonna be meetin’ up with the others, wanna watch?



Sweet. I brought some snacks too. Aw yeah, bring on the private showing!

Now it sounds like it’s lewd again. I’m confused.

Music: Everyday Days




Other countries’ve got tonsa people who can play this good, right? Man, foreigners are so freakin’ crazy… Y’know, I didn’t use to be too into soccer, but I sat down and watched a match one day, and now I’m hooked. How about you? Whaddya like more, soccer or baseball?




I loved watchin’ the draft. Most of my money back then went into sports mags too. You gotta have nine people per team though, so it’s pretty tough to get a game goin’ nowadays.
Ryuji and I watched some sports together… Seeing the burning intensity in the faces of the athletes has refined my Charm

Okay, sure, why not? Maaku gains Charm +3.



Man, that was great! Makes me feel like goin’ for a run!

It’s raining, you dumbass.

Man… Ain’t you hungry? I could really go for some curry right about now. Whaddya say?



We get more points with Ryuji, and also get to make some curry. There’s still little reason to ever do this, though, unless you really need the points.

Should I spend more time with Ryuji…?



For real? What a bummer…

Remember what I said about people generally not getting bummed when you don’t wanna hang out? Yeah, it’s not always the case.

Welp, guess I’ll head home. Welp, thanks for walkin’ me to the station. Seeya.

Music: Beneath the Mask -Rain-




We’re here in Jinbocho for the Book Town, a veritable Mecca for any bookworm. Look at them all! It’s just books, books, books everywhere you look. I’m speechless!
With how everything’s digitized in this day and age, it’s nice to flip through an actual book.
Next, we talk about the fishing pond in Ichigaya. In the middle of the city, you can actually enjoy some fishing. It’s quality quiet time for yourself.
Oh, I go there all the time. These days, I haven’t caught a single thing, though. Hahaha…



Music: Everyday Days



I guess this means I can probably stay here for a while...




I can spend some more time in here if I want...



This lukewarm water is warming my body really slowly...



That heat must have gotten your blood flowing. Your skin’s glowing too. So handsome...

Maaku gains Charm +3.



Music: Break it Down (Elp Version)



Nope.

As the admin of the Phan-Site, I want to find out what society is thinking. There should be a lot of people there since it’s summer vacation; it’d be perfect for a survey. You should come with me tomorrow!
So, what are your thoughts? Will you go to Harajuku with Mishima?




Turning him down, huh? Did you have plans already?

Sorry, Mishima. Going would have given us points with him and Ryuji, but we don’t need either.



Music: Tokyo Emergency




A: Take money from a lost wallet/B: Joyride, but return the car/ So which one of these counts as larceny? You be the judge!



The correct answer is… B! Saying you planned on returning it just won’t fly in court!
You consume gas and wear down the tires. Driving someone’s car without permission is larceny. Taking something that someone lost or dropped is theft by finding, a much lighter crime. Incidentally, the Phantom Thieves steal “hearts,” but unfortunately, that doesn’t count as larceny.
Oh, you got it right. Even if you return it later, it’s still stealing, isn’t it?

Maaku gains Knowledge +1.

Music: Butterfly Kiss



…But you don’t seem too concerned about it. So, what are you here for today?



Oh, the clinical trial… Sorry, I’m going to pass on it today. ……
Takemi is depressed…



Have we been taking lessons from that PUA couple or something? Jeez.

I… need to talk to you. Since this might be the last time...



Come in.



I’m thinking of resigning.



Music: Confession/Secret

Several of my suppliers have stated that they’re going to stop selling to me. If I can’t get my hands on medical supplies, I won’t be able to get what I need to complete the new medicine. They’re probably being pressured by Oyamada to stop doing business with me. So I figure it’s over.



It’s fine.



I confirmed with the hospital Miwa-chan was being treated at… Oyamada was telling the truth. Miwa-chan was apparently smiling until the very end. She probably didn’t want to worry anyone. I wish I could’ve cured her… I didn’t want fame or money. All I wanted… was to keep her smiling… This isn’t just about her though...



I was a sickly child when I was young too… I was always in the hospital… and was rarely well enough to attend school at all. Medicine was all that kept me alive… That’s why I wanted to become a doctor… So I could save people, just like I was saved… …… ...But I guess this is where it ends… The medical industry is a business, after all, and the chief decides what’s best for it. I’m all out of allies...




You might just be my one and only… I really appreciate everything you’ve done. My practice increased thanks to your nosiness, and in the end, I felt like a real doctor again. So… thank you.



...There are plenty of other small-town doctors. This is where it ends. ...Although it frustrates me. …… I can’t do clinical trials anymore, so you can go home. Thanks again for all your help. And good luck on those entrance exams.



Is there anything I can do for Takemi…? …...
Bye...



I love how suspicious this is.



You mean Oyamada? Why? I hope you’re not planning to get revenge for me.



...You’re such a weird kid.



Is that all?
*nods* I need to do something about the target for Takemi...



Yep, a request. Some of the Mementos requests we'll receive are Confidant-bound, requiring us to take care of... obstacles to our progression in the related person's story. It's a really neat thing that pushes forward the game's themes, even if it means more Mementos.

...OK, take care.

Music: Beneath the Mask




You sure? It might go under if that happened.
Yeah. But then, we wouldn’t have to live like this anymore.
...I see. You have anywhere else to go after quitting?
Nah. If I did, I’d have quit already.



I placed my shop on the street so I can see people walking by, but I’m about to melt… Well then, what would you like to do today…?



There’s a lot I want to tell you. Please take a seat.



Thank you! Let’s see. For today...

Music: What’s Going On?




I even have a book about the secret to being a good listener! It was written by a hostess from a club in Ginza. Just picking out which books to bring took me half a day. I have tons more back home though! I’ve started using these as reference materials for the advice I give my clients. This way, I can suggest new alternatives instead of leaving them resigned to their fates.




After all, I need to be able to advise my clients on their future selves! Anyway, what I really want to tell you is that I’ve arrived at a new fortune-telling philosophy. Those with strong convictions can, in fact, change fate. O-Oh, and as for the people I sold Holy Stones to… I’ve started reading their fortunes free of charge. I’d like to return the money they gave me too, but um…



W-Well, um…




Music: Suspicion



U-Um, what are you doing here…?
The chairman asked that I come see how things are going. (to Maaku) Hm? And who are you…?
Th-That’s my apprentice! I haven’t actually introduced him to the chairman yet…
...You’re telling me you’re so busy you needed to hire an apprentice?
Y-Yes! He’s been a wonderful help!
I see. I guess I should have expected such great foresight from you, Maiden. Now then, I should be going.
Th-Thank you for stopping by...

Music: Alright (Elp Version)




N-No, it’s nothing serious. A-Anyway! It’s a private matter, Hamiru-san. Nothing you should concern yourself with. W-Wait, are you perhaps… worried about me?

Nah.

Oh, I’m so touched! Honestly! My luck really improves when you’re around, Hamiru-san! I know! In return for that, I’ll predict your luck whenever you want!
I can sense Chihaya’s intense motivation...



Oh, here it is! Poop, from a butt! Stinky stinky garbage! Double dog vomit! The bloody piss of Rasputin! Why yes, I do believe it’s the worst Confidant skill in the entire game, and a huge waste of our loving time!



Faaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrt.



I should close up for today. Good night, Hamiru-san.



Music: Break it Down (Elp Version)



“It’s called “Mes Miserable,” a remake of a classic. Apparently it came out this summer. What do you think?




Then, let’s meet in front of the theater in Shibuya.
Yusuke’s movie choice seems rather promising. *yawn* We should go to bed.

Arist fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Jan 2, 2018

TheGreatEvilKing
Mar 28, 2016





I already expect a great Russell Crowe parody.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Chihaya's Rank 5 bonus gives access to GameFAQs.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

Funky Valentine posted:

Chihaya's Rank 5 bonus gives access to GameFAQs.

Never level her up past 4.

SloppyDoughnuts
Apr 9, 2010

I set fire to the rain watched it pour as I touched your face
I think this game would be improved dramatically by removing Morgana narrating and summarizing literally everything we say or do.

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.

SloppyDoughnuts posted:

I think this game would be improved dramatically by removing Morgana narrating and summarizing literally everything we say or do.

Persona 3 and 4 have the same summary notes whenever you do anything, they're just not attached to a cat with attitude.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Persona 3 would be a much better game if Koromaru followed you everywhere and went "ARF" every time you did something.

Robindaybird
Aug 21, 2007

Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Chika's confidant skill would be useful... if it was 1995, I'm not sure why any developer in this day and age would make a skill that would be instantly nullified with five seconds of google.

Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.

ApplesandOranges posted:

Persona 3 and 4 have the same summary notes whenever you do anything, they're just not attached to a cat with attitude.

yeah, as they're implied to be internal thoughts

here we outsource our thinking to a cat that wants to be a person

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


Robindaybird posted:

Chika's confidant skill would be useful... if it was 1995, I'm not sure why any developer in this day and age would make a skill that would be instantly nullified with five seconds of google.

Mostly because it's fitting I assume? She's a fortune teller so she tells you the future results of your friendships. It's a bad Confidant Skill but it makes sense in universe I guess? I also don't feel it's that big a deal that you get essentially nothing from this level, as her other stuff is extremely useful and not everything can be a winner. There's another Confidant Skill I personally find way more frustrating but I'll bring it up when we get to it.

Blademaster_Aio
Jan 22, 2017

I guess someone could use it if they were going in blind and wanted to know which confidants they should prioritise or something and refused to check the internet.

But it is pretty useless and if you play through the game once it's completely useless for everyone, including the person going in blind.

Not that it was ever useful.

Deltasquid
Apr 10, 2013

awww...
you guys made me ink!


THUNDERDOME
Yeah I have to admit Morgana gets old with all the narrating. Persona 4 has "I feel tired... I should go to bed." and Persona 5 has "Hey, aren't you tired? You should sleep!" which is infinitely more rage-inducing as a note to end your day.

Omobono
Feb 19, 2013

That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!

Morgana.avi (through Polsy just in case).

And I'd disagree with least useful confidant skill on Fate Reading but it is a really close second.

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SloppyDoughnuts
Apr 9, 2010

I set fire to the rain watched it pour as I touched your face

ApplesandOranges posted:

Persona 3 and 4 have the same summary notes whenever you do anything, they're just not attached to a cat with attitude.

I know, but they were internal dialog, they weren't a cat awkwardly going "Boy, I bet you feel _____ about this, huh?!".

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