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Al Borland Corp. posted:Natty Ports seems to have done a good job of it. She had a career before Star Wars. All the new characters from this trilogy will be fine, perhaps Boyega excepted. Ridley, Isaac, Driver are all immensely talented actors and none of them are giving really iconic performances.
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exquisite tea posted:It's kind of a shame because I genuinely believe Daisy Ridley is a great actress with superstar talent but the odds generally aren't great for Star Wars leads leveraging their work into more dramatic roles. What's this perception of superstar talent based on? Is it Star Wars, or is she incredible in Murder on the Orient Express or something?
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I just think her expressiveness and intensity is really good and she's had to consistently do the most with nothing.
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Sir Kodiak posted:What's this perception of superstar talent based on? Is it Star Wars, or is she incredible in Murder on the Orient Express or something? Not just Star Wars! She was so good in *scans imdb* that BBC CSI knockoff where she played a corpse.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Natty Ports seems to have done a good job of it. She's discussed in interviews how she had a very noticeable down period in her career right after Star Wars where it seemed like directors just didn't know what kind of movies to cast her in. She had to be very, very careful about the roles she took and she if not for Black Swan it's tough to say how things would have worked out for her.
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Just make Boyega the next Bond in a few years
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Boyega played a gangbanger space samurai wrestling with a dark past, who learns how to be brave and eventually rejects his 'toxic masculinity' in Attack the Block and he was fantastic. That's literally every story beat for FN and Poe in episode 7 & 8, except properly done in just one film which also features an ensemble cast.
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Basebf555 posted:She's discussed in interviews how she had a very noticeable down period in her career right after Star Wars where it seemed like directors just didn't know what kind of movies to cast her in. She had to be very, very careful about the roles she took and she if not for Black Swan it's tough to say how things would have worked out for her. I think her biggest problem is not being a very good actor. Daisy Ridley has a higher ceiling I think
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Speaking of which, for all its so called diversity angering racist fanboys, every role in episode 7 & 8 is colorblind. It's just tokenism.
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I think the setup for 9 is really interesting. The order run by someone who hates it. The two heads who hate one another. If hux doesn't make a move against ren I'll be surprised, there's an interesting potential for the snake to eat it's own tail and I'm looking forward to seeing if that's a route the go down.
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Waffles Inc. posted:I think her biggest problem is not being a very good actor. Daisy Ridley has a higher ceiling I think Any actress on the planet including Daisy Ridley would kill to turn in a performance as good as Portman in Black Swan or Jackie.
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So for episode 9, they’re obviously doing a time jump, right? Jump a few years ahead? This lets them address Leia dying off-screen, maybe bring some of those Force sensitive individuals into the spotlight and have the Resistance grown into something more than 30 some people.
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ShineDog posted:I think the setup for 9 is really interesting. The order run by someone who hates it. The two heads who hate one another. If hux doesn't make a move against ren I'll be surprised, there's an interesting potential for the snake to eat it's own tail and I'm looking forward to seeing if that's a route the go down. Ultimately though, the Resistance won't be allowed to win outright. Because Disney will need every new trilogy to be Plucky Rebels vs. Evil Empire. I would expect Ep. 9 to beef up the Rebels with tech and manpower to be sort of visibly on equal footing as the OT Rebels and that will be the "victory" exquisite tea posted:Any actress on the planet including Daisy Ridley would kill to turn in a performance as good as Portman in Black Swan or Jackie. We'll have to disagree and chalk it up to taste I suppose, but I don't think she makes strong choices and plays the problem a bit too much
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Sinding Johansson posted:Speaking of which, for all its so called diversity angering racist fanboys, every role in episode 7 & 8 is colorblind. It's just tokenism.
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Dec 29, 2017 21:37
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Maybe they can set the new Star Wars in a different galaxy
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Rian Johnson's new trilogy would be about "new characters from a corner of the galaxy that Star Wars lore has never before explored" so they don't need to leave anything hanging at the end of episode 9 for it.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Rian Johnson's new trilogy would be about "new characters from a corner of the galaxy that Star Wars lore has never before explored" so they don't need to leave anything hanging at the end of episode 9 for it. I think an interesting movie would be watching how the new order built itself up from the ashes of Return of the Jedi, but I doubt that’s a story Disney would ever want to tell.
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I'm guessing Johnson's trilogy will be about droid emancipation.
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Bongo Bill posted:I'm guessing Johnson's trilogy will be about droid emancipation. this would actually be cool and interesting, which leads me to believe that disney won't go for it
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Bongo Bill posted:I'm guessing Johnson's trilogy will be about droid emancipation. No way does Disney greenlight a movie that is either a full on slave revolt or a political thriller about machinations (hah) leading to droid emancipation It would be deeply awesome if we got a Droid John Brown but
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I'm hoping everybody asking for a droid emancipation movie has seen the recent Planet of the Apes trilogy.
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Sir Kodiak posted:I'm hoping everybody asking for a droid emancipation movie has seen the recent Planet of the Apes trilogy. A trilogy like that but with a droid main character liberating other droids would be extremely my poo poo.
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teagone posted:A trilogy like that but with a droid main character liberating other droids would be extremely my poo poo. A droid emancipation series would be a good reason to bring back Alan Tudyk for another K2-like droid.
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Serf posted:this would actually be cool and interesting, which leads me to believe that disney won't go for it To keep with the theme of Disney consuming everything, it will be the Butlerian Jihad followed by a Dune remake.
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Bongo Bill posted:I'm guessing Johnson's trilogy will be about droid emancipation. I'm not usually a fan of sci-fi's tendency to do analogies about real human struggles for emancipation in order to make it palatable and marketable (talk about "pseudo-Marxistic") but given ethical concerns about AI might well be a future issue I would be very much ok with this
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hiddenriverninja posted:Maybe they can set the new Star Wars in a different galaxy
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Syrinxx posted:That sure worked out great for Mass Effect Well, I mean, people are already trying the patented Andromeda Defence of 'the series was always this horrible', so, we're already there.
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J_RBG posted:I'm not usually a fan of sci-fi's tendency to do analogies about real human struggles for emancipation in order to make it palatable and marketable (talk about "pseudo-Marxistic") but given ethical concerns about AI might well be a future issue I would be very much ok with this All good sci fi is analogies for real human struggles
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Star Wars isn't sci Fi it's fantasy
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Is both.
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Star Wars is a space opera.
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Star Wars is a documentary
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Star Wars is anime
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I Before E posted:Star Wars is anime 
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Star Wars is blood?
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Star Wars is an opiate
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Star Wars is the mob
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Star Wars is like jazz... it's about the wars you ARENT fighting
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Just like the theme of learning from failure in TLJ, the movie itself is a failure for the fans. It's fails inside fails its so beautifully poetic.
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Star Wars is for cucks and white genocide
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