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KakerMix posted:A wire transfer? That's hosed up right? Well, I don't keep $316,000 in my personal checking account so I can't just write a check, can I?
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SpaceCadetBob posted:This is kinda in left field, but reading news about the Tesla big rig, are their any manufacturers working on service/delivery style cargo vans? My construction company is looking to get another van and honestly none of the diesel/gas ones on the market make me very happy. We currently are running some Mercedes Freightliners, and I'm looking at maybe a Ford Transit next, but all I hear anywhere is that everything has poo poo reliability since the engines are getting so complex to keep up with emission standards. DHL commissioned an EV delivery vehicle in Germany and just bought the company that developed it.
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Subjunctive posted:Got the email about the Roadster. Guess they're hedging their bets given the reservation is a contract.
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KakerMix posted:A wire transfer? That's hosed up right? Nah Tesla has always accepted wire transfers for car payments, and a decent number of customers use them to pay. It's more the amount that's WTF-worthy.
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Tyro posted:Nah Tesla has always accepted wire transfers for car payments, and a decent number of customers use them to pay. It's more the amount that's WTF-worthy. Most in the US do EFT, I’m told. I was surprised that they just wanted a cheque when I picked mine up in Canada.
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Is anyone in the US making an electric wagon at all ever? I mean I don't have huge hopes but it would be cool, I'm sort of trying to decide if I want to get an EV as my next car or a station wagon. I really don't want to get an SUV or anything with like elevated ride height. I mean I know Model S is like sort of a wagon with the hatch but I'm not sure I want to go with Tesla
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Stefan Prodan posted:Is anyone in the US making an electric wagon at all ever? I mean I don't have huge hopes but it would be cool, I'm sort of trying to decide if I want to get an EV as my next car or a station wagon. I really don't want to get an SUV or anything with like elevated ride height. I mean.. the B class is a bigass hatchback, the e-golf is a wagon/hatch, the etron a3 is a wagon/hatch....
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BMW has indicated they’re making an all-electric 3 series at some point in the future, and I’m holding out hope that it’ll be easy for them to bring a wagon to the US as there’s pretty much zero emissions testing required to meet DOT specs.  That said, I have no idea if the DOT would want to crash a bunch of the cars as well or if they’d be okay with the sedan 3 crash tests. If they want unique crash test figures, it would pretty much shoot it dead. I’m honestly surprised the wagon 3 is available in the US, as they only seem to make car magazines and weird car-loving people happy. We will be in crossover hell for a very long time, until a new generation of kids get old enough to think that crossovers are their parents’ cars, and that they need something “cooler” or whatever the term will be.
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eyebeem posted:I mean.. the B class is a bigass hatchback, the e-golf is a wagon/hatch, the etron a3 is a wagon/hatch.... Sorry I should have specified, I mean like a full-size instead of a small hatchback Probably unrealistic to hope for one in the US I guess
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Stefan Prodan posted:Sorry I should have specified, I mean like a full-size instead of a small hatchback Sooooo you mean a crossover?
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No I mean a full size wagon? Like the 328 wagon or the e class wagon
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Stefan Prodan posted:No I mean a full size wagon? Is the 3 series wagon actually bigger than an egolf? But yeah, I figured you meant full size. Give me something the size of a big volvo wagon and I'd spend a lot of money on it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWYtq0hxhQg 2 hour long complete tear down, reassembly and explanation of the Gen2 Volt battery. This channel does a lot of teardowns on various EV and Hybrid power systems.
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Ripoff posted:BMW has indicated they’re making an all-electric 3 series at some point in the future, and I’m holding out hope that it’ll be easy for them to bring a wagon to the US as there’s pretty much zero emissions testing required to meet DOT specs. every powertrain combination sold in the US has to be crashed and federalized
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Morgan going through with the EV3, slated to start production in Q3 18: http://www.evo.co.uk/morgan/3-wheeler/17446/morgan-ev3-confirmed-for-late-2018 I guess it comes down to whether Frazer-Nash can deliver the powertrain package on time and to spec. I have no background for why they didn't win the Metrocab bid, but it does seem like a negative.
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Edmunds is doing a long term review for the Model 3: https://www.edmunds.com/tesla/model-3/2018/long-term-road-test/introduction.html e: lol, wait, they're just stoking the hype fire a bit.
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And if you can't wait for the new targa Roadster... https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1976-FERRARI-308-GTS-CUSTOM-TARGA-211200
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I think we've discussed auto dimming streetlights theoretically in this thread, but I haven't seen it done in practice. Turns out it's been installed just west of Oslo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi8eE_NEfHM Not sure if there's a radar literally on each one, would surely be cheaper to do every 5 or 10 and just slave the ones in between.
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That's pretty drat neat from both energy savings and light pollution reduction. Doesn't seem like it was ever viable before LED lighting.
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If you installed that in a similar area in the US, directly adjacent to a residential area, I guarantee everyone that lives along that roadway would call in bitching about the lights going dim and bright in their house windows. It is cool though! As long as someone else is troubleshooting it when it breaks!
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Ola posted:I think we've discussed auto dimming streetlights theoretically in this thread, but I haven't seen it done in practice. Turns out it's been installed just west of Oslo. Either that or do it block by block with just stoplight style sensors at the beginning of the block on either side of the street.
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angryrobots posted:If you installed that in a similar area in the US, directly adjacent to a residential area, If they're optimized for cars, it'd mean a lot less brightly lit areas. Which usually means a ton of broken beer bottles or hosed up cars in the morning.
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D C posted:Either that or do it block by block with just stoplight style sensors at the beginning of the block on either side of the street. I wouldn't want to live right next to lights that go on and off and on and off all night, so I hope it only gets installed in remote areas.
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I certainly hope they wouldn’t do it in urban areas where the lights are also needed for cyclist and pedestrian safety.
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KozmoNaut posted:I wouldn't want to live right next to lights that go on and off and on and off all night, so I hope it only gets installed in remote areas. If they gradually brightened and dimmed, it might be less noticeable.
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Are there only street lights in residential areas over there? In the sticks, the roads are for the most part dark here. But there's a pretty big chunk of road network that have high peaks and deep troughs of traffic (so both good road lighting and clever energy saving is justified) but where very people live in the immediate vicinity. Tunnel lighting is a great example. Always lit, often with low traffic and where detecting vehicles and predicting their paths could hardly be simpler. In the city it would just be a flashing disco show, although it could stay permanently on during winter afternoon/evenings, then go to energy saving mode at night.
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Interestingly, when hurricane Irma came through this year, it tore the hats off a bunch of the streetlights in my neighborhood. When I was cleaning up my yard, I found one with what I had assumed was the day/night sensor on it still intact. loving thing had a MAC address. Blew my mind that the entire neighborhood's streetlights are networked. I cannot come up with a reason for this. Also, they came around and fixed the streetlights on my street the day before the peak of the Leonid meteor shower. Thanks guys. 
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MrYenko posted:Interestingly, when hurricane Irma came through this year, it tore the hats off a bunch of the streetlights in my neighborhood. When I was cleaning up my yard, I found one with what I had assumed was the day/night sensor on it still intact. loving thing had a MAC address. Blew my mind that the entire neighborhood's streetlights are networked. If your utility uses an rf based meter reading system, there are RF repeaters that transfer local meter data to collectors that are internet connected. Some of these devices plug into standard utility lighting in a piggyback fashion where the photo eye sensor is, for easy power access and serviceability reasons. Either that, or local law enforcement installed a camera to watch your place....
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MrYenko posted:Interestingly, when hurricane Irma came through this year, it tore the hats off a bunch of the streetlights in my neighborhood. When I was cleaning up my yard, I found one with what I had assumed was the day/night sensor on it still intact. loving thing had a MAC address. Blew my mind that the entire neighborhood's streetlights are networked. Monitoring. Rather than having to wait for reports of lights out or send crews out at night looking for them the lights can report on their own status and service can be scheduled.
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Is there a reasonably priced CUV that can do at least 30 miles on electric? Our Tucson is a lemon and will likely be replaced soon and I’d love to replace it with something that could do a small trip on battery. The only thing that came to mind was the i3 but the styling is a bit too out there.
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Zoom Zoom, motherfuckers
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angryrobots posted:It is cool though! As long as someone else is troubleshooting it when it breaks! Troubleshooting miles and miles of loving Christmas lights to find the one that burned out. KozmoNaut posted:I wouldn't want to live right next to lights that go on and off and on and off all night, so I hope it only gets installed in remote areas. Remote areas usually don't have street lights lining the roads. At least not in any of the states I've lived in.
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Pr0kjayhawk posted:Is there a reasonably priced CUV that can do at least 30 miles on electric? Our Tucson is a lemon and will likely be replaced soon and I’d love to replace it with something that could do a small trip on battery. The only thing that came to mind was the i3 but the styling is a bit too out there.
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My GF and I finally bought a house, which has meant we can finally get a charge point, which means we can finally get an EV. We don't get a subsidy locally (Guernsey), so the local dealership imports used cars from the UK, whose subsidy contributes massively to the depreciation. Ended up with a 2015 Nissan Leaf Tekna in black, 7k on the clock for just under £13k with a charge point installation included.
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ReelBigLizard posted:My GF and I finally bought a house, which has meant we can finally get a charge point, which means we can finally get an EV. We don't get a subsidy locally (Guernsey), so the local dealership imports used cars from the UK, whose subsidy contributes massively to the depreciation. Ended up with a 2015 Nissan Leaf Tekna in black, 7k on the clock for just under £13k with a charge point installation included. That's one way to not have to ever worry about range, live on an island where the longest possible round trip is less than 20 miles.
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You'd think they'd be more popular here honestly. The best selling car has been the Fiat 500 for some time, the Leaf is only just starting to chase it down. People have this weird thing where even though they have never and will never take their car to the continent or the UK. They buy ICE just in case they have a sudden need to take a nine hour ferry and then drive to Aberdeen. That's no excuse for the local government, who own outright the sole electricity supplier. They recently started to replace the public bus fleet, for some reason they bought more lovely diesel buses and no-one in gov seems to be able to tell me why they didn't go electric or at least hybrid. At least the local post office has taken the plunge with 20+ eNV-200s.
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Yeah, it seems like you pretty much have the perfect situation for the "rent an ICE for long trips" approach. It's a hard sell in the US where most of us can picture destinations that are just out of range for an EV but seem too short to be worth the trouble of renting a car, but for you there's a hard dividing line that any trip over a certain distance involves multiple hours on a boat even just one way which neutralizes the slight bit of effort involved in the rental. Weird on the buses.
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ilkhan posted:Iirc there's an electric or hybrid RAV4.
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