kwinklesOFFICIAL posted:

if you read carefully i didnt say every building should have ground floor retail, because it obviously depends on the situation. manhattan is not a city that needs to encourage pedestrian culture, so it wouldnt make sense there. many other cities that grew a lot from 1950-1990 may have had laws discouraging mixed use development that they’re trying to reverse. requiring it in every building in a whole city is an extreme case that probably doesnt make sense, but thats what zoning is *for*. encouraging land use that is desirable and discouraging land use that is bad for the city as a whole. there are plenty of places where requiring retail in new commercial or residential buildings makes a city better, and adding zoning requirements for it in some areas is probably a great tool for that.


i have lived in manhattan, as i have already mentioned. you dont beed to explain to me that apartments in manhattan are expensive.

most parts of manhattan have plenty of ground floor retail within a block and plenty of outside of business hours usage, so they arent good examples of areas where requiring or encouraging it would be a high priority. this seems obvious but here we are.

fishmech posted:

also lol calling it "encouraging pedestrian culture" like you're some sort of space alien.

rjmccall posted:

uber is telling people not to do it, it's an actual doctor who's (quite reasonably) telling people it's fine in all the situations where you'd take a taxi / bus / whatever to the hospital instead

calling an ambulance is asking for like four trained professionals to do nothing but pay attention to you for 20-30 minutes, that's not magically cheap just because of socialized medicine, it's just that you don't see a bill for it

fishmech posted:

"i don't think buildings should have to have it but i think it should be required" lmao

and yeah so you pretend you lived in manhattan, but you claim that location is "undesirable" because you couldn't immediately see retail on that short stretch of street. lol texas rots your mind


i don't see whats so hard for you to get here: in no place should street level retail be required for any given building. it is perfectly fine to have single purpose buildings. insistence that it should ever be required betrays that you're too used to cities that have nothing going for them (i.e. any place in texas) so you would desperately attempt to fake a working neighborhood by requiring the new buildings to have some retail space that will probably end up vacant often. because you want to cargo cult a real city that deserves to exist

NyetscapeNavigator posted:

this was a thing that surprised me when I visited a friend in Austin a few months ago. he was straight up living in the suburbs with a 30 minute commute to downtown but was still somehow in the city limits of Austin.

kwinklesOFFICIAL posted:

atomicthumbs posted:

always remember that the Futurists (the original ones) were big ol fuckin capital-f Fascists

SENSUAL DAD KISS posted:

Here in Canada an ambulance is $45 or $240 if you're not covered by OHIP (foreign visitor etc)

hifi posted:

in like a decade the phoenix metro area is going to be tucson-yuma-phoenix

DaTroof posted:

dude, just let it go. arguing with fishmech is like some sisyphus poo poo, except the rock is a turd, and the mountain is a pile of turds, and you're being punished for arguing with a turd

infernal machines posted:

it's not a mountain

kwinklesOFFICIAL posted:

there are plenty of places where requiring it makes perfect sense. why don’t you try re-reading my earlier post more carefully.

i lived in chelsea, on 25th street between 7th and 8th ave. nice neighborhood with lots of desirable ground floor shops and places to etat. go down to the financial district and it sucks. new york may not want to make the financial district a pedestrian friendly place after hrs, and thats fine, but lots of other cities have neighborhoods that they’d like to make more pedestrian friendly and requiring ground floor retail, or at least offering incentives, makes a lot of sense in many many places. this is the whole purpose of zoning, encouraging one type of development over another.

lots of cities exist outside of manhattan. if you are only familiar with that one city, maybe you should travel more and see some other cities. then you might recognize that they dont all have the same needs, right now that seems to be confusing you.

TimWinter posted:

The Boston Neighborhood system still bugs me and I can't put my finger on why. It may be that Hyde Park is well over 30 minutes from downtown but still also within city limits, but maybe it's something else.

kwinklesOFFICIAL posted:

annexing surrounding areas is one thing that texas does well, so you dont end up with tiny cities with many different municipal governments

TerminalRaptor posted:

I remember that Era, and was amazed they survived. It had to be late nineties, and I was looking at boxed copy of Wing Commander Armada with a fifty dollar price tag on it. The game had to be close to five years old at that point and just few shelves over they had those "gold classic" editions of games, among which was Wing Commander Armada with a ten dollar price tag on it. Little old teenage me was just stumped.

kwinklesOFFICIAL posted:

The more buildings have ground floor retail and other things, the better it is to live and work in that area, which is why it should be encouraged.

I don't think you need to have it in every building and I never said that it should be required in every building - you seem to have trouble with reading comprehension.

eschaton posted:

don’t you understand? if fishmech agrees with you it’s like saying he was wrong, and being America’s Smartest Boy, fishmech cannot he wrong

DaTroof posted:

i will never stop refuting the notion that i've chosen the wrong hill to die on. this is technically a slope

DaTroof posted:

the mild degree of escalation alone is enough to disqualify this thing as a hill, and furthermore

DaTroof posted:

#notallhills

DaTroof posted:

according to merriam webster, a "hill" is defined as

DaTroof posted:

i can't believe people are still calling it a hill. uhhhh you've never seen a simple incline before? even when i approach it from this other angle, it's barely a mound

DaTroof posted:

oh. my. god. if you actually bothered to measure the elevation, it's obvious that

SENSUAL DAD KISS posted:

Here in Canada an ambulance is $45 or $240 if you're not covered by OHIP (foreign visitor etc)

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Jabor posted:

Oh, didn't you realize? Requiring ground-floor retail in all new construction in a particular location means that you want every single building there to eventually have ground floor retail. It's literally impossible to just want to increase the amount of ground floor retail by a little bit.

TimWinter posted:

The Boston Neighborhood system still bugs me and I can't put my finger on why. It may be that Hyde Park is well over 30 minutes from downtown but still also within city limits, but maybe it's something else.

fishmech posted:

its a dumb solution that doesn't work and just gets you a bunch of empty retail storefronts eyesoring up the place

this worship of having a place to buy things as magically making people want to shop at whatever store will actually set up there, if any, as the solution to living in a place like texas is hilarious cargo culting

kwinklesOFFICIAL posted:

that's funny, i thought austin, a city that prioritizes mixed use development, had record commercial occupancy and record numbers of people moving there each day.

but you're probably right and that's all making it a less attractive place to live.

FCKGW posted:

I worked for Fry’s for 8 years, from 2001 to 2009. There’s three things keeping them in business

Their stores are just way too big though.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

I like laughing at Austin as much as the next guy, but not everywhere can be SF or NY, nor should they try to be.