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TheNewt posted:This thread has gotten worse since we stopped talking about the prequels. Wow very cool! Thanks for posting about it in this thread man, its really cool to get these sorta behind the scene deets on what my favorite posters like TheNewt r up to 
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Lord Hydronium posted:Well, that was the story. Just like before the prequels, the story of the fall of the Jedi was that they were pure and good guardians of peace and justice who fell through no fault of their own. That wasn't the story. We had no idea what happened. All we knew was that the Jedi were guardians of peace and justice, then somehow the Emperor outmaneuvered them all and destroyed all but two of them, and now here they are hiding away like rats while the Empire dominates the galaxy. Then we learn that Obi-Wan and Yoda are liars. Obi-Wan admits that he failed in his training of Anakin. Obi-Wan tells Luke he has to kill his father, but it turns out that that's wrong. The Jedi were never portrayed as infallible or totally pure and good. Luke is explicitly portrayed as proving his teachers wrong and surpassing them in wisdom, even before the prequels. We didn't know the full extent of it before the prequels, but nothing in the prequels contradicts or undermines the characters or the story of the OT. The Obi-Wan and Yoda of the OT are still just as wise as they ever were, and also just as flawed.
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Dec 30, 2017 07:51
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fivegears4reverse posted:"In Star Wars, anyone can be the hero, but only with the permission of the writers who decided the hero in The Last Jedi would be Luke Skywalker, again." Luke is the legend, Rey is the hero.
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Dec 30, 2017 07:54
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Yaws posted:lol um yeah Milky Moor. Sure. The visual theme of the scene is black leather and fire, representing temptation and passion. Anakin speaks of being scarred and unable to breathe. The whole thing is obviously prefiguring Mustafar and Anakin's transformation into Vader. The whole reason Darth Vader chokes people in the OT is because he envies them what he doesn't have. It's the same in Episode III. As he says in the fireplace scene, the thought of not being with Padme renders him unable to breathe. So when Padme says she can't be with him anymore on Mustafar, he chokes her in revenge, because she strangled him first with her rejection. It ties back directly to the dialogue in the fireplace scene, and so does the imagery. Padme's kiss in Episode II does become a scar--an unimaginably gruesome one. Cnut the Great fucked around with this message at 08:19 on Dec 30, 2017 |
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Dec 30, 2017 08:12
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Cnut the Great posted:The visual theme of the scene is black leather and fire, representing temptation and passion. Anakin speaks of being scarred and unable to breathe. The whole thing is obviously prefiguring Mustafar and Anakin's transformation into Vader. This is what I was hoping for. Very cool.
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Dec 30, 2017 08:14
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Milky Moor posted:This is what I was hoping for. Very cool. I think I pointed it out myself a looooong time ago. But it says something that people independently notice these things.
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Dec 30, 2017 08:21
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Cnut the Great posted:The whole reason Darth Vader chokes people in the OT is because he envies them what he doesn't have. Anakin chokes Captains and Admirals that are beneath him. His underlings. What do they have that he doesn't? A fully functioning body? Yaws fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Dec 30, 2017 |
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Dec 30, 2017 08:21
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He just chokes people because it's scary space sorcerer poo poo. Anakin does it in the prequels cause Lucas is a poor writer.
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^^^ Isn't the only person Anakin chokes in the prequels Padme specifically?Yaws posted:Anakin chokes Captains and Admirals that are beneath him. His underlings. What do they have that he doesn't? A fully functioning body? ...yes?
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Dec 30, 2017 08:28
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Milky Moor posted:^^^ Isn't the only person Anakin chokes in the prequels Padme specifically? I guess Anakin should be force choking virtually everyone he comes across if his only criteria is "not horribly burned and in a machine that sustains my life"
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Dec 30, 2017 08:31
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Milky Moor posted:So anyway does the choker-scarf thing that Padme wears in AotC somehow link back to Anakin choking her to death? She didn't die from choking. She simply lost the will to live.
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Dec 30, 2017 08:32
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Beefstew posted:She didn't die from choking.
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Dec 30, 2017 08:34
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Beefstew posted:She didn't die from choking. It's like she gave up all hope How could Padme have foreseen her husband falling to the dark side? The man who slaughtered all those Tusken Raiders. The man who showed an authoritarian streak. If only there was some warning signs for poor Padme.
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Dec 30, 2017 08:38
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Yaws posted:I guess Anakin should be force choking virtually everyone he comes across if his only criteria is "not horribly burned and in a machine that sustains my life" I think you're confusing why he specifically chooses choking as a method of using violence and why he chooses to use violence against specific people.
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Dec 30, 2017 09:31
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Basebf555 posted:Where would you suggest he shoot in order to get a Coruscant-like cityscape with buildings so packed together that you can't even tell where the ground is? A literal planet-sized city that we're gonna be speeding around in during one of the biggest action set-pieces in the movie. So like, the Death Star surface an it's trenches from the OT? All this could have been done with models, like they did 30 years prior. They also did this for the new Blade Runner and it looks wonderful. I get it, Lucas pushed us towards CGI and the development of the technology, and yes it was well-received at the time and I enjoyed the first film when it hit theaters (I was also 12~); but that doesn't mean it's held up. Jurassic Park used CGI sparsely and it holds up much better than the prequel films. I don't recall my reaction to AOTC but when ROTS came out I was bored to tears with it. I rewatched the prequels 2 years ago on my Star Wars binge leading up to TFA and it was hard to sit through the prequels, I feel asleep several times to each film, and they look absolutely terrible. There's some good shots, yes, but they mostly look like poo poo.
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Dec 30, 2017 10:36
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s.i.r.e. posted:So like, the Death Star surface an it's trenches from the OT? All this could have been done with models, like they did 30 years prior. They also did this for the new Blade Runner and it looks wonderful. Well when you get your time machine you can go tell him how they're going to look after almost two decades of VFX advancement and I'm sure he'll change them. I Before E fucked around with this message at 10:48 on Dec 30, 2017 |
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Dec 30, 2017 10:46
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Beefstew posted:She didn't die from choking. Technically, her death was the result of her plot armor stat going negative. The cause of death was a stray dust particle.
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Dec 30, 2017 11:30
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Dec 30, 2017 14:20
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exmarx posted:
The solid piece used to shape shoes as they are made is called a last; Rian Johnson confirmed that Luke is the last Jedi, the form around which all future Jedi will be shaped.
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Dec 30, 2017 15:00
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Rian Johnson is still making his trilogy right? I really hope so.
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Dec 30, 2017 15:56
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Shaocaholica posted:Rian Johnson is still making his trilogy right? I really hope so. I don't even think preproduction is fully underway yet...but there's been no indication that his trilogy was a joke or anything.
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Dec 30, 2017 15:59
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Probably not. Last Jedi is literally the worst movie ever made(I read scripts for a living(not paid))
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Dec 30, 2017 16:16
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https://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/features/kojima-star-wars-in-the-era-of-disney-w514793 posted:To ensure the stability and prosperity of the kingdom, a festival is held each year as part of a never-ending celebration. This is what it means for Disney, not George Lucas, to helm the Star Wars franchise. In the magic kingdom anyone can become prince or princess, no blood is spilled and there are no revolutions. Dang.
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Dec 30, 2017 16:57
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Schwarzwald posted:Dang. I was about to say, the review starts out pretty savage, but then it keeps going and you're like, oh yeah, it's Kojima.
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Dec 30, 2017 17:09
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fivegears4reverse posted:"In Star Wars, anyone can be the hero, but only with the permission of the writers who decided the hero in The Last Jedi would be Luke Skywalker, again." Where's this from?
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Dec 30, 2017 17:58
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I Before E posted:Well when you get your time machine you can go tell him how they're going to look after almost two decades of VFX advancement and I'm sure he'll change them. yes, it would be completely unlike Lucas to release a version with redone effects over a decade later in preparation for a new trilogy
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Dec 30, 2017 18:02
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exmarx posted:
God why is Snoke such a jackass. What a bad character.
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s.i.r.e. posted:So like, the Death Star surface an it's trenches from the OT? All this could have been done with models, like they did 30 years prior. They also did this for the new Blade Runner and it looks wonderful. The chase through Coruscant in AotC is obviously way more ambitious(to be more accurate, it's ambitious in a different way) than the death star trench run. So much more going on in terms of integrating the actual actors into their background, compared to those scenes in ANH where 99% of any shot of a pilot was just a close up in the cockpit. So ok, you can say Lucas simply shouldn't have been that ambitious, he should've used the CGI more sparingly. I'm not trying to get into that argument, we could go on and on with that one all day, I'm just trying to point out that the movie you're suggesting is a drastically different one than what Lucas wanted. And, by the standards of the time, he succeeded and even surpassed expectations(as far as the technical quality of the effects).
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Dec 30, 2017 18:28
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The Coruscant chase looks (and sounds) amazing I can't understand how someone could compare the New Hope trench run favourably.
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Dec 30, 2017 18:47
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Tender Bender posted:I'm assuming red letter media asked this in their review since everyone is parroting it as if it's a reasonable question. Nah that's not the direction they went
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Dec 30, 2017 18:58
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CGI's gotten really good lately. If you look at something like the original King Kong and you compare it to something original Mighty Joe Young, King Kong's effects don't hold up, either. Joe looks more like a gorilla and is better animated, and some of the compositing is better, too. I think there's an even bigger quality gap in some of the CGI coming out now and the CGI in the prequels than there was in the effects between those two movies. That's not really a knock against the prequels, because I don't think the CGI was half-assed. If the idea was to try to help push new special effects technology further, that seems like a success to me. I don't really like the prequels, but I don't like this talking point.
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s.i.r.e. posted:So like, the Death Star surface an it's trenches from the OT? All this could have been done with models, like they did 30 years prior. They also did this for the new Blade Runner and it looks wonderful. 
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Dec 30, 2017 19:31
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sassassin posted:The Coruscant chase looks (and sounds) amazing I can't understand how someone could compare the New Hope trench run favourably. Because the trench run had both meaning and pathos and the coruscant chase... less so. All the pretty cgi in the world won't help you if the movie is bad.
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Dec 30, 2017 20:07
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I remember watching the coruscant chase and just feeling embarrassed on the behalf of the filmmakers. It's pretty well made for what it is but it's also really lame.
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Renoistic posted:I remember watching the coruscant chase and just feeling embarrassed on the behalf of the filmmakers. It's pretty well made for what it is but it's also really lame. Cool I remember watching it and thinking it was fun and neat
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Dec 30, 2017 20:16
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While cleaning my house, I found a Star Wars fan comic my friend and I made in 7th grade (1996?). It contains such awesome lines as "DIE AT THE HANDS OF A SKYWALKER" I was left with shame, and with consequence.
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hiddenriverninja posted:While cleaning my house, I found a Star Wars fan comic my friend and I made in 7th grade (1996?). It contains such awesome lines as "DIE AT THE HANDS OF A SKYWALKER" Post it
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Dec 30, 2017 20:33
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After watching TLJ I concluded that they should have given the script to the Bio Apocalypse kid, who is probably now an adult. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu91WyjDJR0
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s.i.r.e. posted:So like, the Death Star surface an it's trenches from the OT? All this could have been done with models, like they did 30 years prior. They also did this for the new Blade Runner and it looks wonderful.    
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Waffles Inc. posted:Cool I remember watching it and thinking it was fun and neat This is your brain on death sticks
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