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Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
The first half of 2017 was much much worse than the second half.

So there's that.

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Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

TheNewt posted:

Man I went to lunch at this fast food chain that recently opened up here that serves mostly seafood.

And they do a pretty drat good job with their fried fish.

But what really struck me is that their side options are a lot healthier than 99% of the other fast food places. You can get steamed broccoli, and green beans, or a really rad side salad and it's all the exact same price. gently caress you can get a baked potato which is way healthier than fries in my opinion.

I just can't wrap my head around why other fast-food restaurants haven't started offering healthier sides when it costs very little to do so. What the gently caress is wrong with this country.

Their target demographic is looking for cheap and fast, not healthy. Have you ever watched a drive through line at a McDonald's before?

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
I think Trump is a big lovely man!! :newlol:

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider
Maybe I missed it but have we talked about escalating poo poo with Iran today?

https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/947245184546476032

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/947180713236934657

ought ten
Feb 6, 2004

Cerebral Bore posted:

tbf he's technically correct, but not for the reason he thinks he is.

Enh. If you're saying that Fox, Breitbart, Gateway and their ilk routinely lie and make up stories I'm with you, and they are part of the media. But they're a far cry from the press.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


that's the funniest part is all the stuff these people love is the fake news.

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person

Chadderbox posted:

Their target demographic is looking for cheap and fast, not healthy. Have you ever watched a drive through line at a McDonald's before?

Not just cheap and fast, but something that will give a quick hit of dopamine. Eating healthy foods can sometimes feel like a chore compared to downing a pile of fries and a burger. It's important to remember that people who eat unhealthy diets have their brains rewired in response to it.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

So in 2018 we should expect "Iraq War III: Iran", right? Is winter sweeps week too soon for kickoff? Maybe ratings would be higher in spring?

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

withak posted:

So in 2018 we should expect "Iraq War III: Iran", right? Is winter sweeps week too soon for kickoff? Maybe ratings would be better in spring?

No

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
He's beating the drum of his belly for war but he doesn't have the money to make his tax poo poo solvent, let alone engage in yet another loving war.

Blorange
Jan 31, 2007

A wizard did it

Crabtree posted:

He's beating the drum of his belly for war but he doesn't have the money to make his tax poo poo solvent, let alone engage in yet another loving war.

Has running up the national debt ever stopped Republican hawks before?

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Crabtree posted:

He's beating the drum of his belly for war but he doesn't have the money to make his tax poo poo solvent, let alone engage in yet another loving war.

He is making loud impotent noises while Iran does what he would love to do. I’d love a populist revolt to happen and overthrow the theocracy but it won’t.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Blorange posted:

Has running up the national debt ever stopped Republican hawks before?

We're not talking about money. We're talking about how unbelievably unpopular everything Trump touches is. The Republicans, with his backing, made the world's first unpopular tax cut.

People always point to the huge day of protest just prior to the Iraq War to try and make a point when the fact was that a great majority of the country at the time supported it. Just like how in the 60s a huge majority of the US supported the Vietnam War despite the high profile hippie stuff. The Iraq War and the first few years of the War on Terror were only made possible by the perfect storm of 9/11 and the societal breaking outrage that stemmed from it.

Shimrra Jamaane fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Dec 31, 2017

beejay
Apr 7, 2002

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

The first half of 2017 was much much worse than the second half.

So there's that.

By what metric?

hiddenmovement
Sep 29, 2011

"Most mornings I'll apologise in advance to my wife."
The trump biopic has two options so near as I can see it:

1) Cohen brother's film.

2) Make it clear that he's a confused, pathetic old man in the early stages of Alzheimer's. He is your angry, racist grandpa, screaming at everyone about immigrants over Christmas dinner. It humanizes him, but it also makes it super clear that he was never fit to hold office and that he should not be venerated.

farraday
Jan 10, 2007

Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.

beejay posted:

By what metric?

We've occasionally stopped talking about the election.

On Iran, it's hard at this moment to see it escalating into a direct war as opposed to escalating involvement in one of the Saudi proxy conflicts.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

beejay posted:

By what metric?

It's pretty freaking obvious with even basic perspective.

When Trump came into office the media, and the public at large, was desperate to normalize him. He had Bannon and Flynn working to usurp all the powers of the federal government into their own unofficial cabal. The Democrats were in a tailspin. People were literally afraid of a fascist takeover if Trump was capable of pivoting into semi competence.

Now Trump is the least popular President in modern history. The Democrats are riding a huge electoral wave. The GOP itself is in a borderline tailspin. Trump is literally under federal investigation. Trump has been so unbelievably stupid and incompetent that all attempts by him to be authoritarian have backfired hilariously. Bannon is a national embarrassment.

Shimrra Jamaane fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Dec 31, 2017

Martian Manfucker
Dec 27, 2012

misandry is real
took way too long to scroll past that Dave Barry drivel, next time break it up with some tweets I can read on the way to the bottom of the page.

and don't post Dave Barry either

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

It's pretty freaking obvious with even basic perspective.

When Trump came into office the media, and the public at large, was desperate to normalize him. He had Bannon and Flynn working to usurp all the powers of the federal government into their own unofficial cabal. The Democrats were in a tailspin. People were literally afraid of a fascist takeover if Trump was capable of pivoting into semi competence.

Now Trump is the least popular President in modern history. The Democrats are riding a huge electoral wave. The GOP itself is in a borderline tailspin. Trump is literally under federal investigation. Trump has been so unbelievably stupid and incompetent that all attempts by him to be authoritarian have backfired hilariously. Bannon is a national embarrassment.

These might also be considered the very reasons why the second half of the year has been worse. There may have been more uncertainty earlier, but Trump's incompetence is hiding a bunch of things that are relatively unnoticed. The dismantling of the EPA, attempted sabotage of the census, the abandonment of PR, packing of federal courts...bad things are happening that will have repercussions for decades. It doesn't matter that Trump is also an idiot.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

There Bias Two posted:

These might also be considered the very reasons why the second half of the year has been worse. There may have been more uncertainty earlier, but Trump's incompetence is hiding a bunch of things that are relatively unnoticed. The dismantling of the EPA, attempted sabotage of the census, the abandonment of PR, packing of federal courts...bad things are happening that will have repercussions for decades. It doesn't matter that Trump is also an idiot.

Those things were going to happen the second any Republican candidate won last fall. Every single conservative pet project that they'd been sitting on for 8 years was going to be pushed through without delay. The point is that there was the fear that things were going to be so much worse. But because of Trump and his administration being such colossal fuckups things are already pointing to us being able to recover.

beejay
Apr 7, 2002

Who cares about "perception" and poo poo, they are wrecking the country recently. "Huge electoral wave" :stare:

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

RandomBlue posted:

Maybe I missed it but have we talked about escalating poo poo with Iran today?


We're not escalating anything, just providing useless commentary on courageous things some Iranians are doing that's likely going to hurt their cause.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

beejay posted:

Who cares about "perception" and poo poo, they are wrecking the country recently. "Huge electoral wave" :stare:

Perception is half the drat battle. If John Kaisich were in the White House his administration and the Congressional Republicans would be doing everything that's currently going on and worse because they'd be hiding under a veneer of respectability and "business as usual" that never fails to fool the public. They'd just be slightly less bull horn racist about it.

People wouldn't be realizing how bad things were until years down the line when the things they're doing start to have effect. But because Trump is an outrage lightning rod the view is different. People are mad at stuff the GOP is doing before it even gets off the ground. And that matters immensely going into the midterms.

Shimrra Jamaane fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Dec 31, 2017

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


beejay posted:

Who cares about "perception" and poo poo, they are wrecking the country recently. "Huge electoral wave" :stare:

the gop is going to get destroyed in the midterms if things keep going the way they're going. they're polling further behind than prior to the worst flips ever.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Groovelord Neato posted:

the gop is going to get destroyed in the midterms if things keep going the way they're going. they're polling further behind than prior to the worst flips ever.
Also people are going to get more pissed as the tax bill fucks them over

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
donald trump is a hero, a perfect actor, set atop the republican party in order to destroy it once and for all from within. He is the Boss who will take the fall for the errors of the group he has tied his name to, and as he goes down, so too will all of them, crushed under the crashing blue wave. He will take his true mission to the grave, forever unappreciated for his ultimate sacrifice.

Skellybones
May 31, 2011




Fun Shoe

Martian Manfucker posted:

took way too long to scroll past that Dave Barry drivel, next time break it up with some tweets I can read on the way to the bottom of the page.

and don't post Dave Barry either

I thought the "antifa are just as bad as the nazis" he put in after covering Charlottesville was :discourse:

Skellybones
May 31, 2011




Fun Shoe
So centrist it made me inhale sharply

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Who was the dude back in 2016 that said that the GOP would survive a Trump loss but wouldnt survive a Trump victory? I'm not willing to go that far but it's becoming less of a fantastical joke every day.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Who was the dude back in 2016 that said that the GOP would survive a Trump loss but wouldnt survive a Trump victory? I'm not willing to go that far but it's becoming less of a fantastical joke every day.

also george w still correct in his assessment that he may be the last republican president

tetrapyloctomy
Feb 18, 2003

Okay -- you talk WAY too fast.
Nap Ghost

HelloSailorSign posted:

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OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!

boner confessor posted:

also george w still correct in his assessment that he may be the last republican president
I want to believe this is true but Obama came in under a big anti-Bush backlash and 2 years later the Democrats lost Congress to a bunch of Tea Party morons.

I don't think the Trump stain on the GOP is going to be as durable as people think it is once they're out of power.

OneEightHundred fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Dec 31, 2017

Pander
Oct 9, 2007

Fear is the glue that holds society together. It's what makes people suppress their worst impulses. Fear is power.

And at the end of fear, oblivion.



Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Who was the dude back in 2016 that said that the GOP would survive a Trump loss but wouldnt survive a Trump victory? I'm not willing to go that far but it's becoming less of a fantastical joke every day.

Sounds like Steve Schmidt. Maybe Rick Wilson. Or evan mcmullin. I get my bald white never trumpers mixed up.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

i'd personally love to see the US go to war with Iran and get roflstomped

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

OneEightHundred posted:

I want to believe this is true but Obama came in under a big anti-Bush backlash and 2 years later the Democrats lost Congress to a bunch of Tea Party morons.

I don't think the Trump stain on the GOP is going to be as durable as people think it is once they're out of power.

the GOP's internal instability has been going on for a while, the ascension of trump is itself a byproduct of the GOP's internal power struggle between the saneish corporate wing and the nutbar populists. any political party in control of its internal processes would not have allowed trump to win its primary, and he got very lucky in an extraordinarily narrow electoral victory over hillary

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Pander posted:

Sounds like Steve Schmidt. Maybe Rick Wilson. Or evan mcmullin. I get my bald white never trumpers mixed up.

Pretty sure it was Rick Wilson. He's since gone on to coin the phrase "Everything Trump touches dies," now that every post-Karen Handel candidate he's endorsed has gone down in flames.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Pander posted:

Sounds like Steve Schmidt. Maybe Rick Wilson. Or evan mcmullin. I get my bald white never trumpers mixed up.

In the end they're all the same really.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

In the end they're all the same really.

Pretty much. They're all people with a minimal shred of a conscience who are upset that Trump is being just so blatantly monstrous, but will go back to voting for the next R who comes along who's at least good at hiding the monster from people again.

Steve Schmidt is vaguely redeemable but in the end There Are No Good Republicans.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound

nine-gear crow posted:

Pretty much. They're all people with a minimal shred of a conscience who are upset that Trump is being just so blatantly monstrous, but will go back to voting for the next R who comes along who's at least good at hiding the monster from people again.

Steve Schmidt is vaguely redeemable but in the end There Are No Good Republicans.

Anyone who claims to be a "Never Trumper" is potentially redeemable but anyone who currently professes themselves a Republican is complicit.

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HelloSailorSign
Jan 27, 2011

tetrapyloctomy posted:

Which is why Viagra sales are through the roof.

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