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learnincurve posted:So If I’m reading this right, in order to upgrade or extend one bit you find that you have to upgrade or change a whole chain of 83 other things, and all while keeping the whole subway system running so New York’s entire transport infrastructure does not collapse. Absolutely. Though the actual tunneling and new track layout does cost quite a bit on its own! Roughly speaking there was a sustained period of neglect of the subway system at large from 1965-1985 where things really went into the gutter, and then many years around them of not quite sufficient investment. You also had major one-time issues happening like 9/11 outright destroying large chunks of track and obstructing others, Hurricane Sandy dumping tons of junk into underground areas, and so on. So even with the relatively decent available funding of the 2000s and later, the system had to have a lot of that diverted to just get things back up to "running" state. And again, in theory you don't need to do all that maintenance on all that connected stuff, it can in theory just wait another year - but that kind of thinking is exactly what got the system into that mess to begin with. Because you wait 20 years to do your maintenance and you're paying 100x what it would have cost to fix it when it cropped up because of all the other stuff that broke on the way.
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Every year you wait it costs more too.
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# ? Dec 30, 2017 03:28 |
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Re: Papa Johns, keep in mind that on top of corner-cutting on their product while still being significantly more expensive than both of their main competitors, Dominos revamped their pizzas for the better and backed it with a big marketing push, and Pizza Hut did a big menu expansion with all of the crust customization stuff.
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# ? Dec 30, 2017 04:13 |
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This article popped up recently and would contribute to the costs discussions. K ST in Washington, DC has cycling various shops, part of which is probably due to rent. My hair stylist moved to a more smaller scale operation due to rent/operation costs about a month ago."New York's vanishing shops and storefronts: 'It's not Amazon, it's rent' posted:...
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# ? Dec 30, 2017 11:36 |
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Why would you drop the rent on retail stores? If they go under, that means that the other stores nearby are going to struggle a bit more (see: cable bundling) and if they go out of business, maybe the owner of the hole sells. Congratulations, you now own more New York real estate. As long as people keep wanting to live there, it isn't like the price for the square footage is going to go down. If they make rent (IIRC part of the rent is a % of revenue, so you might want a bunch of cycling high end places) you just get paid, so it is really win-win.
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https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2017/11/27/the-paradox-of-persistent-vacancies-and-high-pricesquote:Last month in our social feed, I shared an interesting piece from Greater Greater Washington on the glut of vacant office space in Washington DC. In a city with explosively high housing prices, the article questions why some of the reportedly 14 million square feet of vacant space could not—or was not—being converted for residential use. If half of it was converted to 1,200 square foot units, that would be around 5,000 new units. According to the same site, that is more units than were permitted to be built in DC in all of 2016.
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blowfish posted:And in most other places it's true as well, just not quite to such an extreme extent. This is pretty much exactly how a Transport for London employee explained why they can’t automate the trains. poo poo is over 100 years old and it’s hard enough keeping everything running smooth without adding extra poo poo on top
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Spazzle posted:https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2017/11/27/the-paradox-of-persistent-vacancies-and-high-prices Good poo poo, ty Time for guillotines
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skooma512 posted:This is pretty much exactly how a Transport for London employee explained why they can’t automate the trains. poo poo is over 100 years old and it’s hard enough keeping everything running smooth without adding extra poo poo on top New York is doing that with ~100 year old rail lines! It's just uh, they've only been able to do it for 2 lines so far out of 36 separate lines, after 20 years of work, and probably couldn't go all the way for another century or so.
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skooma512 posted:This is pretty much exactly how a Transport for London employee explained why they can’t automate the trains. poo poo is over 100 years old and it’s hard enough keeping everything running smooth without adding extra poo poo on top Yeah and really how would you upgrade? Either you close down a whole line for a couple of years while the tunnel gets rebored to a large diameter and has modern track/signalling/automation equipment installed (and chances are you'd have to rework a bunch of sewers near the tunnels to make way too) or you just say gently caress it and bore a parallel tunnel before changing anything about the original one
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got any sevens posted:Good poo poo, ty is that really the sophistication of your takeaway
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https://twitter.com/cbsnews/status/946977423794589696
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# ? Dec 30, 2017 20:22 |
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If the one in times square is anything like the one in vegas I'm not surprised. It's absolutely fine (as in acceptable) food, but it's marketed in a way that you expect a whole lot more. You don't get it. It's like going to any other generic "nice" fast casual burger place.
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Motronic posted:If the one in times square is anything like the one in vegas I'm not surprised. It's absolutely fine (as in acceptable) food, but it's marketed in a way that you expect a whole lot more. You don't get it. It's like going to any other generic "nice" fast casual burger place. https://nyti.ms/SZCqjJ quote:Did panic grip your soul as you stared into the whirling hypno wheel of the menu, where adjectives and nouns spin in a crazy vortex? When you saw the burger described as “Guy’s Pat LaFrieda custom blend, all-natural Creekstone Farm Black Angus beef patty, LTOP (lettuce, tomato, onion + pickle), SMC (super-melty-cheese) and a slathering of Donkey Sauce on garlic-buttered brioche,” did your mind touch the void for a minute?
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# ? Dec 30, 2017 21:24 |
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Welp. Was not my experience at all in LV as far as bad service, but I don't know how to read through the lines of a critic on the warpath as compared to actual experience either. The menu buzzword thing was totally still there as I recall the amount of eyerolling I did. I've also been to Giadas in LV, which was superior in every way (as long as we're discussing celeb chef stuff). Absolutely lived up to the hype and they have a great wine cellar. Expensive, but I'd go again if forced to be in LV in the future.
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# ? Dec 30, 2017 21:31 |
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I never ate at the NYC one but it's legendary among some friends of mine who did for how bland it is vs. the price and the dishes from his various shows they're based on. They also echo the bad service comments. I mean it's a Time Square celebrity/institution kind of place, it's may as well be frozen food but hilariously overpriced stuff being assembled and served by overworked, underpaid people who very understandably don't give a poo poo. That Times review seems right on the money with their sentiments.
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# ? Dec 30, 2017 21:40 |
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GreyjoyBastard posted:
I could elucidate and expound further but it would be pointless. I prefer to be blunt and direct.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I think it's more that a pizza is made out of like 8 ingredients total and all of them are basically the cheapest things that exist. You can make a pizza to feed a family for like 2 dollars of ingredients. some sort of pizza was always going to end up being super cheap. I have a cousin who owns a pizzeria/chip shop. He once told me that every day he gives thanks that Pizza Hut and Domino's managed to convince people that a large pizza should cost £15. Meanwhile, a pizza place opened up right across the road from my local Domino's which does traditional sourdough wood-fired pizzas for £7, and honestly I don't think I'll ever get a Pizza Hut or Domino's at my house ever again, the difference in quality is staggering and it's practically half the price.
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I live in a small town with no pizza chains, but the capitalist story still works. Local "Italian" restaurant should be killing it for nearly a 10 mile radius. Instead, they are staffed by self absorbed teenagers who must be related to the owners as they often ignore customers. And they manage to ruin product either by insanely long waits (1+ hours), or under/overcooked pies. I'd rather buy a frozen pizza at Shaws than their poo poo. A local bbq joint started making pizza a month ago and they found themselves unable to keep up with the demand. $17 for a 16 inch pie with pulled pork from the smoker outside? gently caress yes.
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# ? Dec 30, 2017 23:45 |
Not even a Dominos?
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# ? Dec 31, 2017 00:21 |
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Reveilled posted:I have a cousin who owns a pizzeria/chip shop. He once told me that every day he gives thanks that Pizza Hut and Domino's managed to convince people that a large pizza should cost £15. The business model of fast food pizza seems to have settled on some sort of weird coupon and deal based thing where a medium sized pizza costs 13 dollars but a large pizza costs 8 dollars (but two medium pizzas also 13 dollars). I have no idea if it's some "people like deals" or "we don't really want to sell all these sizes but we have to for some reason so we will hyper steer what gets bought" or if there is some secret time they don't have the deals and having deals literally every day is a secret way to raise the price on certain dates or what.
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# ? Dec 31, 2017 00:31 |
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The “$10 large pizza” is the dollar menu of the fast food world. The cheap item to bring people in and hope they spend another $8 on breadsticks too.
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Once a month the local pizza chain (Zeeks) teams up with the pub next door to offer $10 pizza night when you have it delivered to the pub I took advantage of it last month and when I called and asked what the $10 pizza offer was and he was like "any pizza you want. $10." and then I said "what size?" and he just repeated it. These pizzas are normally like $25-28 for a large. It blew my dang mind.
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FCKGW posted:The “$10 large pizza” is the dollar menu of the fast food world. The cheap item to bring people in and hope they spend another $8 on breadsticks too. I am sure they would like people to also buy breadsticks but the joke is always that the most expensive ingredient of a pizza is the box. Fast food pizza is probably less than 3 dollars of ingredients and labor.
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Neo Rasa posted:I never ate at the NYC one but it's legendary among some friends of mine who did for how bland it is vs. the price and the dishes from his various shows they're based on. They also echo the bad service comments. I mean it's a Time Square celebrity/institution kind of place, it's may as well be frozen food but hilariously overpriced stuff being assembled and served by overworked, underpaid people who very understandably don't give a poo poo. That Times review seems right on the money with their sentiments. It should be proof of our sadness as a nation that people travel to one of our greatest metropolises, but then get too scared to eat anything except overpriced American chain comfort food. All of Times Square is this crap. The Applebee's & TGI Friday's are also insanely priced. Pretty much any restaurant there has to account for the crazy overhead, and it comes out in the food pricing. Why would you travel so far and pay so much to EAT THIS poo poo.
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StrangersInTheNight posted:It should be proof of our sadness as a nation that people travel to one of our greatest metropolises, but then get too scared to eat anything except overpriced American chain comfort food. All of Times Square is this crap. The Applebee's & TGI Friday's are also insanely priced. Pretty much any restaurant there has to account for the crazy overhead, and it comes out in the food pricing. I remember there being a Mike Pence photo thing going around some time ago about how you couldn't see his reflection in the mirror from where he was sitting at a booth in Chili's, when he was visiting NYC. All I could think was "You went to one of the largest cultural centers in the world, with access to virtually any and every cuisine on the planet, and you went to a loving Chili's, you piece of poo poo."
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StrangersInTheNight posted:It should be proof of our sadness as a nation that people travel to one of our greatest metropolises, but then get too scared to eat anything except overpriced American chain comfort food. All of Times Square is this crap. The Applebee's & TGI Friday's are also insanely priced. Pretty much any restaurant there has to account for the crazy overhead, and it comes out in the food pricing. Going to other countries then eating their crappy chain restaurants is really fun. (eating at mcdonalds in other countries is also very fun if you do it exactly one time then spend the rest of your meals eating real food. The mcdonalds take on a bunch of cultures is really wild)
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# ? Dec 31, 2017 05:41 |
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There is a not insignificant segment of the population that only eats meat fish and starches prepared blandly. This does not always have to be bad... a real steak with good mash and creamed spinach is wonderful. It is however almost always bad.
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StrangersInTheNight posted:It should be proof of our sadness as a nation that people travel to one of our greatest metropolises, but then get too scared to eat anything except overpriced American chain comfort food. All of Times Square is this crap. The Applebee's & TGI Friday's are also insanely priced. Pretty much any restaurant there has to account for the crazy overhead, and it comes out in the food pricing. BrandorKP posted:There is a not insignificant segment of the population that only eats meat fish and starches prepared blandly.
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Haifisch posted:
Yeah well thats most of the world for most of history. It's not really a big deal.
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# ? Dec 31, 2017 06:07 |
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I wouldn't say it is most of the world fishmech. Most of the western world sure.
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# ? Dec 31, 2017 06:15 |
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People also have allergies, which can affect what foods are safe for them to eat. Typically chain restaurants are pretty explicit in allergen warnings and the product tends to be consistent. If you had a really bad peanut allergy, I couldn't blame you for wanting to avoid Thai or Chinese places, for example.
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Haifisch posted:Some people are completely terrified at not knowing exactly what they're getting, even if what they're getting is mediocre garbage. yeah. there's a lot of folks who are terrified of taking a risk and losing, even if that risk is spending a few dozen monies on some food they may not like or may be disappointingly prepared
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# ? Dec 31, 2017 06:21 |
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actually, eating taco bell while on vacation to a city with amazing food from like eight dozen different cultures is woke now y'all
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# ? Dec 31, 2017 06:23 |
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did you know if you slip the drive thru guy a $20 you can just have one of their big vacuum sealed bags of reconstituted beef slime / oatmeal porridge mix they call "taco filling" not only does it have GREAT macros, because you have the whole bag you can defrost it overnight and then take it with you all day. boba tea straw that poo poo up and you have a mother loving 2.5 lb protein/fiber capri sun, my dude
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Panfilo posted:People also have allergies, which can affect what foods are safe for them to eat. Typically chain restaurants are pretty explicit in allergen warnings and the product tends to be consistent. Lol if you think a chain restaurant employee has any incentive to not use the peanut spatula on your vegetarian sliders.
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# ? Dec 31, 2017 06:26 |
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eating taco bell is practically like being vegan because their "meat products" are so adulterated by fillers you're only killing like 1/5 as many sentient beings as if you went to Burger KingTM, the "home of the whopper", where you are encouraged to "have it your way", unless you are a cow, in which case, lardroom e: ha ha I just noticed this was a D&D thread and not a C-SPAM one this whole time, I will take this derail elsewhere
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Haifisch posted:Some people are completely terrified at not knowing exactly what they're getting, even if what they're getting is mediocre garbage. Hey, raising a kid is a literal full-time job so maybe there isn't enough time in the evening to prepare an exquisite meal hence the fish sticks and fries with milk.
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withak posted:Lol if you think a chain restaurant employee has any incentive to not use the peanut spatula on your vegetarian sliders. they take that poo poo real seriously, it's Lawsuit Town. which is why it's so incredibly annoying for foodservice workers when someone says "I'm allergic to..." when what they really mean is "I don't like..." because having an allergen on a ticket includes extra work to have fresh pans etc. which is infuriating when someone says they're allergic to tomatoes, please leave tomatoes off the burger, then they put ketchup on the loving thing. or how a kajillion people somehow became allergic to gluten in 2007 and suddenly they're all concerned about the carb-soaked pasta being gluten free. if you can't eat gluten, dont come to a loving pasta joint aagh people
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Justin Godscock posted:Hey, raising a kid is a literal full-time job so maybe there isn't enough time in the evening to prepare an exquisite meal hence the fish sticks and fries with milk. I am so tired and am ready for death. Why have I done this again? Amazon gets it.
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