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Orrin Hatch retiring BRING ON MITTENS  
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Wait does Hatch not want to ascend to the Presidency? Or does he just believe that events won't put him there before 2018 absolutely crushes the GOP like they fell into the heart of TON 618, giving us President Pelosi instead?
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Jan 2, 2018 20:28
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:"Trump always wins!" is a stupid narrative that isn't even true. He constantly fails at everything. I mean he "won" because he got it back when but he lost like 90% of his wealth over the 90s and kept it gone for like two decades. He's lost a ton of businesses, he lost tons of stuff in divorces. Like you can spin it like none of it counts or because he became president that negates all previous failures or something but trump is a loser who is not a magic always wins genine. We all know he doesn't always win. That's part of the point. He's always loving up. The unusual thing is that he never gets to the endgame stage where he has zero money or credit left, despite spending it like water on lots of massive failures. It doesn't work like this even for most people with inherited wealth, or else you'd never get any "riches to rags" tales - they can make more mistakes than most people, but they can't generally make as many as Trump. It also works with political stuff - most politicians can make one or two gaffes before becoming a laughing stock. Trump made as many gaffes *today* as Hillary did in her whole career. It's like he's got a cheat code for the universe, where he can play the game like a moron but hammer the "Extra Lives" button every time he gets close to the "Game Over" screen.
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Jan 2, 2018 20:29
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Sooo I knew that the Russia investigation wouldn't be a short one but it's what, 6 loving months now? Nothing at all has happened so far. Are you telling me the absolute dumpster fire that was Trump's campaign managed to never involve the President directly and did everything behind his shoulders? He also did anything in his power to appear as guilty as he could and he's still loving there not giving a poo poo.
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Jan 2, 2018 20:29
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Rigel posted:Bill Shuster (PA-09) announced his retirement. His district has a PVI of R+19 and is 97% white though, so that seat is a reach unless we have a truly epic wave. Shimrra Jamaane posted:As a believer in the Blue Wave there's no way an R +19 district is vulnerable unless the guy is a pedophile. But the average swing in 2017 votes was D+15, so half the races went +D even harder. Unless the national mood becomes much more pro-Trump over the next 10 months, that means Dems have a slightly worse than even chance to take his seat, especially losing the incumbency advantage
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Jan 2, 2018 20:29
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Kawabata posted:Sooo I knew that the Russia investigation wouldn't be a short one but it's what, 6 loving months now? Nothing at all has happened so far. Uh, these things take time. A lot of time. 6 months is nothing. Nixon took 2 years.
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Jan 2, 2018 20:30
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Love the idea of Mitt "loving" Romney being held up as some sort of paragon of integrity ITT
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Jan 2, 2018 20:31
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Helen Highwater posted:This is an incredible fusion of post content and poster avatar. His username is an aircraft engine designation.
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Jan 2, 2018 20:33
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Mister Adequate posted:Wait does Hatch not want to ascend to the Presidency? Or does he just believe that events won't put him there before 2018 absolutely crushes the GOP like they fell into the heart of TON 618, giving us President Pelosi instead? If events would lead to Hatch ascending to the Presidency, be it in 2018 or 2019, we'd be looking at the end of the Republican Party. That's something he probably doesn't want to be involved with.
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Jan 2, 2018 20:33
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BigglesSWE posted:The sooner we drop the phrase "global warming" and universally replace it with "global climate change", the better. If only because we get rid of those asinine strawmen arguments from idiots. Climate Change is the GOP approved version of the term. It was specifically chosen by noted volegroper Frank Luntz back in 2002 to make the concept sound less scary. quote:"The scientific debate is closing [against us] but not yet closed. There is still a window of opportunity to challenge the science," Mr Luntz writes in the memo, obtained by the Environmental Working Group, a Washington-based campaigning organisation.
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Jan 2, 2018 20:34
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Riptor posted:Love the idea of Mitt "loving" Romney being held up as some sort of paragon of integrity ITT You must allow one of a) Charles Manson or b) Bernie Madoff to stay in your home tonight. You're telling me that you're not relieved that option b is a major scumbag instead of a literal crazy person?
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Jan 2, 2018 20:34
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BarbarianElephant posted:We all know he doesn't always win. That's part of the point. He's always loving up. The unusual thing is that he never gets to the endgame stage where he has zero money or credit left, despite spending it like water on lots of massive failures. It doesn't work like this even for most people with inherited wealth, or else you'd never get any "riches to rags" tales - they can make more mistakes than most people, but they can't generally make as many as Trump. It also works with political stuff - most politicians can make one or two gaffes before becoming a laughing stock. Trump made as many gaffes *today* as Hillary did in her whole career. No, that is stupid. Trump is wildly unpopular, has an eroding base and constantly loses money and businesses. There is no standard that he is a big winner and you are falling for the same thinking that makes him carry around his electoral win map. "hurr durf, I can't be a loser because I won this in the end!"
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Kawabata posted:Sooo I knew that the Russia investigation wouldn't be a short one but it's what, 6 loving months now? Nothing at all has happened so far. 6 months is nothing in this type of investigation and to say nothing had happened is disingenuous. There have been multiple federal indictments of former campaign officials. Indictments that surprised the Whitehouse, meaning it's a leak free investigation.
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Jan 2, 2018 20:34
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twice burned ice posted:You must allow one of a) Charles Manson or b) Bernie Madoff to stay in your home tonight. I'll take the dead guy. But the point is, you're assuming a difference where there isn't one.
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Jan 2, 2018 20:35
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Deuce posted:
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Jan 2, 2018 20:36
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Kawabata posted:Sooo I knew that the Russia investigation wouldn't be a short one but it's what, 6 loving months now? Nothing at all has happened so far. Mueller's team is filled with the highest-tier of professionals and, if it turns out Trump is guilty of anything, they won't indict one small thing at a time. They will make sure they have everything together so they can indict him for everything all at once.
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Jan 2, 2018 20:38
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Riptor posted:Love the idea of Mitt "loving" Romney being held up as some sort of paragon of integrity ITT Post the quotes.
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Jan 2, 2018 20:38
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twice burned ice posted:You must allow one of a) Charles Manson or b) Bernie Madoff to stay in your home tonight. I'll take Manson now, though he might smell a little.
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Jan 2, 2018 20:39
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Crows Turn Off posted:Mueller's team is filled with the highest-tier of professionals and, if it turns out Trump is guilty of anything, they won't indict one small thing at a time. They will make sure they have everything together so they can indict him for everything all at once. I'll make sure to bring this post back up when it inevitably fizzles out and we all face to trumpshed.
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Jan 2, 2018 20:39
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Pollyanna posted:I'll make sure to bring this post back up when it inevitably fizzles out and we all face to trumpshed.
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Jan 2, 2018 20:40
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Pollyanna posted:I'll make sure to bring this post back up when it inevitably fizzles out and we all face to trumpshed. Oh cool, nothing matters, what a fresh hot take here in 2018.
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Jan 2, 2018 20:41
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Riptor posted:Love the idea of Mitt "loving" Romney being held up as some sort of paragon of integrity ITT Seriously you made this up.
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Jan 2, 2018 20:42
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Riptor posted:I'll take the dead guy. Romney on abortion: "One of the great things about our nation ... is that we're each entitled to have strong personal beliefs, and we encourage other people to do the same. But as a nation, we recognize the right of all people to believe as they want and not to impose our beliefs on other people. I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. ... I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years, that we should sustain and support it, and I sustain and support that law, and the right of a woman to make that choice, and my personal beliefs, like the personal beliefs of other people, should not be brought into a political campaign." Hatch on abortion: "On January 22, 1973, the Supreme Court of the United States twisted the Constitution to create a right to kill babies before they are born. Since then, nearly 50 million babies have lost their lives. That is more than 40 times the number of Americans who died in all of our nation’s wars. Those babies were living human beings, and they were killed by abortion." There's at least one difference between them that's important to me.
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Jan 2, 2018 20:42
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twice burned ice posted:Romney on abortion:
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Jan 2, 2018 20:46
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Uh, these things take time. A lot of time. 6 months is nothing. Nixon took 2 years. Can someone just leak the script for this season already? I don't want to wait another year to find out if hope is dead forever or not.
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Jan 2, 2018 20:46
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Holy poo poo if you can't tell the difference between Milquetoast Romney and Orin Hatch then I don't know what to tell you.
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Jan 2, 2018 20:46
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Romney's going to vote in lockstep with the GOP while maintaining an image of being the Responsible Moderate compared to the party's more outwardly-crazy members. On any policy matter of any substance, Romney's just another rubber stamp on Trump's agenda. I guess he's an improvement in that he's unlikely to say anything truly unhinged in public, but I'm having a hard time imagining a scenario in which he votes against the rest of the GOP majority. I'd bet actual money he never does anything to stand up to Trump beyond tweeting or making some sort of Jeff Flake-style tsk-tsk speech. (Y'know, assuming he gets elected, which seems a reasonably safe assumption given Utah's history.)
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Jan 2, 2018 20:47
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Flip Yr Wig posted:Actually, I believe these were Reagan's SS guards: Is that Eric Holder toward the left?
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Jan 2, 2018 20:47
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Pollyanna posted:I'll make sure to bring this post back up when it inevitably fizzles out and we all face to trumpshed. Mueller laying out his case that Trump conspired with a foreign power to corrupt our electoral process (and is also being black mailed by said foreign power) with hard evidence and testimony and the Republicans shrugging it off should be the point where the entire political media labels the party as going completely rogue, are explicitly against Democracy, and should be opposed to anyone that even pretends to care about the country but haha there's no way they would do that and expect Republicans to give New York Times interviews or show up on their panel debates.
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Jan 2, 2018 20:47
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Ague Proof posted:Seriously you made this up. yeah all right I overreacted a bit but just the idea that Romney would be an improvement over Hatch implies some degree of integrity on Romney's part, which is demonstrably untrue. for example check out this poo poo: twice burned ice posted:Romney on abortion: In which twice burned ice cherrypicks a single quote from Romney when he was running for senate in Massachusetts 20+ years ago and ignores the numerous anti-choice positions Romney has taken since then
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Jan 2, 2018 20:48
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I live in massachusetts so I'm just conditioned to stomp out any iota of support for the dude the second I see it
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Jan 2, 2018 20:48
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^^^^yuuuuuuuuuupRiptor posted:yeah all right I overreacted a bit but just the idea that Romney would be an improvement over Hatch implies some degree of integrity on Romney's part, which is demonstrably untrue. for example check out this poo poo: Yeah, I'd like to see what Mittens said about abortion when running against Obama in 2012--I seem to recall him taking a much harder line then.
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Jan 2, 2018 20:49
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The choice of different Republicans is how dirty the knife they stab you with is, not if they will actually stab or not (they will).
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Jan 2, 2018 20:49
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Alter Ego posted:^^^^yuuuuuuuuuup from the National Review in 2011: Romney posted:I am pro-life and believe that abortion should be limited to only instances of rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother. I support the reversal of Roe vs. Wade, because it is bad law and bad medicine
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Jan 2, 2018 20:50
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"bad medicine" is not a doctor Fucken lmao
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Jan 2, 2018 20:51
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Crows Turn Off posted:I did say, "if it turns out Trump is guilty of anything." I'm about 50/50 on whether Trump himself gets in trouble for anything. In any remotely competent organization I'd say that of COURSE he was insulated from clear and unequivocal crimes, but uh
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Jan 2, 2018 20:52
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Yeah, the upside for Romney is probably Jeff Flake but like that's still a relative improvement on Orrin Hatch and his full throated "Trump is the best president of my lifetime" railroad confirmations through committee tenure. Even if Romney does everything Hatch did its a lateral move and if he's 2% less evil than that's a relatively good thing. He's just not going to be a wall for bad GOP stuff or firebrand voice against the Administration so its nothing to get excited about. All in all, I'm glad Orrin Hatch's end is near and Trump's day is a little worse for this.
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Jan 2, 2018 20:52
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GreyjoyBastard posted:In any remotely competent organization I'd say that of COURSE he was insulated from clear and unequivocal crimes, but uh It doesn't help them that they didn't even attempt to hide their corruption since they didn't expect to actually win.
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Jan 2, 2018 20:53
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