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Back on Hifumi, what do you think her Phantom Thief codename and Persona would be if she wasn't dropped as a party member?
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Checkmate seems to be about the right level of complete lack of subtlety. Persona-wise, I dunno, Zhuge Liang? He's about the only strategist type character I can think of who'd fit the 'rebellion' theme, and it's not the discrepancy between the fictional portrayal and his real life activities are any wider than with Goemon.
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Jan 1, 2018 06:17
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Wasn't she going to be Queen before they handed that off to Makoto? I thought I remembered hearing that somewhere.
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Jan 1, 2018 08:12
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I don't think there's been any confirmation of that. I dunno about codenames ("Empress" would fit but that's an Arcana name), but Fa Mulan seems like a decent pick for a Persona considering her SL is partly about her femininity being used as a weapon.
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kvx687 posted:Checkmate seems to be about the right level of complete lack of subtlety. Persona-wise, I dunno, Zhuge Liang? He's about the only strategist type character I can think of who'd fit the 'rebellion' theme, and it's not the discrepancy between the fictional portrayal and his real life activities are any wider than with Goemon. ApplesandOranges posted:I dunno about codenames ("Empress" would fit but that's an Arcana name), but Fa Mulan seems like a decent pick for a Persona considering her SL is partly about her femininity being used as a weapon. Either of those characters as Personas would've been amazing and seem to fit the theme of P5 well.
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Jan 1, 2018 09:50
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Arist posted:
Huh, so we're actually doing something about the person trying to ruin Takemi's life. And I'm guessing we'll get to do the same to the folks blackmailing Kawakami and the chairman Chihaya is talking about? I get that it fits with the game's themes and that the folks in question are huge assholes, but I just find it a little weird to have Maaku take such an active role in a social link like this.
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Jan 2, 2018 01:36
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...OK, take care.
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amigolupus posted:Huh, so we're actually doing something about the person trying to ruin Takemi's life. And I'm guessing we'll get to do the same to the folks blackmailing Kawakami and the chairman Chihaya is talking about? But he does. In most of them. Why shouldn't we bring the hammer down on some of these jerks? I'm honestly sad we can't beat them up because some of them (like the Takases) deserve a good thrashing. Alas, P5 is realistic about these things. Cannot beat up jerks no matter how much you hate them. Blademaster_Aio fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Jan 2, 2018 |
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Jan 2, 2018 01:38
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I did not realize that was the first such request we'd received, so I need to apologize for that. I added a short few sentences to the related segment explaining it, but here it is in case you don't want to search for it: Arist posted:
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Jan 2, 2018 01:43
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Confidant Mementos is where at points we fight people who are arguably worse than some of the main Palace targets. It's really hosed up.
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Jan 2, 2018 01:58
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Funky Valentine posted:Confidant Mementos is where at points we fight people who are arguably worse than some of the main Palace targets.
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Jan 2, 2018 03:27
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AradoBalanga posted:So, judging by how awful the past three Palace targets were (I'm excluding Wakaba since she's technically not a target), we're going to be facing Totally Not Nyarly Dressed Up As Hitler, aren't we? Some of them are pretty bad, but not totally evil in that way. Maybe more bad in a banal but still pretty awful manner, but not nega-Hitler bad.
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Jan 2, 2018 03:33
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AradoBalanga posted:So, judging by how awful the past three Palace targets were (I'm excluding Wakaba since she's technically not a target), we're going to be facing Totally Not Nyarly Dressed Up As Hitler, aren't we? Sunglasses Hitler is a force not even #Millenials can deal with.
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Jan 2, 2018 03:38
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Funky Valentine posted:Sunglasses Hitler is a force not even #Millenials can deal with.
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Jan 2, 2018 05:04
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I still have no idea why Hitler shows up in Persona, nor why they thought using his title but giving him sunglasses was any form of censorship.
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Jan 2, 2018 05:07
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I still have no idea why Hitler shows up in Persona, nor why they thought using his title but giving him sunglasses was any form of censorship. Because Japan, I guess.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I still have no idea why Hitler shows up in Persona, Because Nyarlathotep is a bombastic rear end in a top hat who was making a point about the evils of humanity. Hobgoblin2099 posted:nor why they thought using his title but giving him sunglasses was any form of censorship. Because CERO, the japanese version of ESRB, added a rule against any real historical figures appearing in video games between the time of the original release of the game and the PSP remake and Atlus was making a point of telling them to gently caress off as hard as they possibly could while still getting away with it.
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Jan 2, 2018 06:42
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Maybe they could have not used hitler in their game in the first place just a thought
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Stroth posted:Because CERO, the japanese version of ESRB, added a rule against any real historical figures appearing in video games between the time of the original release of the game and the PSP remake and Atlus was making a point of telling them to gently caress off as hard as they possibly could while still getting away with it. Must make playing FIFA awkward in Japan.
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amigolupus posted:Huh, so we're actually doing something about the person trying to ruin Takemi's life. And I'm guessing we'll get to do the same to the folks blackmailing Kawakami and the chairman Chihaya is talking about? There is a rough theme that each game has in regards to social links. P3 for the most part the mc is an enabler and while eventually the social links figure out how to grow, the mc plays no part in it. For P4 the mc is kind of like a therapist. He gives the characters a chance to vent and voice their concerns and doubts so that they can start to grow again. There is some involvement but since for the most part the issues are internal, they can be handled without direct intervention. P5 is all about helping people break free of the shackles forced upon the weak by those in power so by definition the mc has to have an active role in doing that so that once the chains are broken, the social link characters can once more grow. Also it should be interesting to see just how everyone ranks the sl requests.
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GeneX posted:Maybe they could have not used hitler in their game in the first place Kinda hard to have rumors about the third rich without him C. Everett Koop posted:Must make playing FIFA awkward in Japan.
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Jan 2, 2018 10:09
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cdyoung posted:Kinda hard to have rumors about the third rich without him yes, correct, they could have also not used nazis at all
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Stroth posted:Because CERO, the japanese version of ESRB, added a rule against any real historical figures appearing in video games between the time of the original release of the game and the PSP remake and Atlus was making a point of telling them to gently caress off as hard as they possibly could while still getting away with it. This would seem to make games set in historical eras where real historical figures are important to the storyline impossible to make. Like, say, fictionalized accounts of the Sengoku Jidai...
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Jan 2, 2018 11:57
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GeneX posted:yes, correct, they could have also not used nazis at all So, what, is Wolfenstein a bad game because it has nazis's in it? I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.
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GeneX posted:yes, correct, they could have also not used nazis at all Does the game go on to say that Hitler was a great guy or something? I've never played or watched/read an LP of Persona 2 so I'm not sure what your issue with that is. All I know is that was far enough back in time that Nazis were an easy way to classify someone as an 'enemy' in game without any 'they're just doing their job!' or 'what about that guy's family?' moralizing.
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Jan 2, 2018 14:49
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Oh I’m just trying to get a rise out of people, the only thing I know about persona 2 is that there’s a gay romance in it and a smiling hitler
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Jan 2, 2018 15:06
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can you really gay-romance Hitler
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Really Pants posted:can you really gay-romance Hitler I think there was a Kickstarter about that a few years ago.
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Really Pants posted:can you really gay-romance Hitler Yeah the true ending is just cloning an army of pure aryans using demon tech, it’s super edgy but the love hitler shows for your vat children really adds depth to his character
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GeneX posted:Yeah the true ending is just cloning an army of pure aryans using demon tech, it’s super edgy but the love hitler shows for your vat children really adds depth to his character I would love to play a game where this happens, it sounds hilarious for some reason. I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I still have no idea why Hitler shows up in Persona, nor why they thought using his title but giving him sunglasses was any form of censorship. The supernatural Bad Thing in P2 is a curse inflicted by Nyarlathotep that makes rumors turn into reality. Owing to how loving nutty gossip can become, this eventually leads to the "Last Battalion" (a remnant of mechanically-enhanced Nazi troops led by Der Fuhrer himself) besieging Tokyo with the power of the ancient Mayan city of Xibalba, which ends in the apocalypse when a deranged history teacher stabs a reporter with the Lance of Longinus.
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Jan 2, 2018 21:58
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I should really try to keep playing Innocent Sin, man.
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Jan 2, 2018 22:03
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I don't know why no one tried to spread the rumor that they were a literal god on earth.
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Jan 2, 2018 22:07
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Mraagvpeine posted:I don't know why no one tried to spread the rumor that they were a literal god on earth. a principle and a student council member both basically did something similar (complete power/control within the bounds of their schools), by making a wish to Joker.
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Jan 2, 2018 22:11
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Do not underestimate gossip.
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Oxxidation posted:The supernatural Bad Thing in P2 is a curse inflicted by Nyarlathotep that makes rumors turn into reality. Owing to how loving nutty gossip can become, this eventually leads to the "Last Battalion" (a remnant of mechanically-enhanced Nazi troops led by Der Fuhrer himself) besieging Tokyo with the power of the ancient Mayan city of Xibalba, which ends in the apocalypse when a deranged history teacher stabs a reporter with the Lance of Longinus.  I love this stupid goddamn series.
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Jan 2, 2018 22:15
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The general setup for every Persona game is "the thoughts of humanity are doing some stupid poo poo again".
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Oxxidation posted:The supernatural Bad Thing in P2 is a curse inflicted by Nyarlathotep that makes rumors turn into reality. Owing to how loving nutty gossip can become, this eventually leads to the "Last Battalion" (a remnant of mechanically-enhanced Nazi troops led by Der Fuhrer himself) besieging Tokyo with the power of the ancient Mayan city of Xibalba, which ends in the apocalypse when a deranged history teacher stabs a reporter with the Lance of Longinus.  Is there an LP of this up?
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I feel kinda bad for abandoning the Innocent Sin LP I had going on. I have a ton of material recorded so theoretically I can get back to it at some point, but writing updates for the thread felt like work and I didn't think the LP was turning out as well as the game deserved.
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Of Innocent Sin? No. There was one earlier in 2017, but apparently it's been abandoned because it's not on the master list. e: oh hey ^^^
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