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khy
Aug 15, 2005

Didn't trump make a tweet saying "Democrats won't help him" if they gain control of the senate? I can't find it but I swear I remember reading it not so long ago.

E:
They think they're going to the vet, but they're going to the Park.

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Ogmius815
Aug 25, 2005
centrism is a hell of a drug


He's a crook and his father was a crook and jeez central PA.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

There Bias Two posted:

Wow, they're all jumping ship.

His district went for Trump by 49 points. It's exceedingly unlikely he would have lost if he ran again unless there's a story about to come out about him being a child molester. He probably has other reasons.

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

Pakled posted:

His district went for Trump by 49 points. It's exceedingly unlikely he would have lost if he ran again unless there's a story about to come out about him being a child molester. He probably has other reasons.

People are definitely jumping to some big conclusions about these sorts of things these days. In fairness though, even the growing likelihood that Democrats may reclaim the House could be an incentive not to run again since it sucks to be the minority party.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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*braces for a screamer*

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Sinteres posted:

Yeah there's no reason to think government by men older than average male life expectancy is a bad thing at all, despite the two oldest presidents we've had, who Bernie would be considerably older than, both having clear signs of dementia in office.

Yeah wouldn't want to risk a senile president, let's nominate someone less likely to beat Trump to make sure there's not a demented old man in the White House.

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

VitalSigns posted:

Yeah wouldn't want to risk a senile president, let's nominate someone less likely to beat Trump to make sure there's not a demented old man in the White House.

Fortunately we still have more than two years to assess and see how likely Trump is to win reelection and who our credible choices are.

Kale
May 14, 2010

BRISTOL PALINS BABY posted:

I am so loving bored of Donald Trump. This has been going on since 2015. I'm over it. Can we get a new TV president now? The last season was barely believable.

This honestly. The next few years are just going to be the same old antics and you can tell even his base is getting tired of this dance albeit at a much slower rate than the rest of the world. Everthing gets old when it's forced on you day after day for years.

Boon
Jun 21, 2005

by R. Guyovich

VitalSigns posted:

Yeah wouldn't want to risk a senile president, let's nominate someone less likely to beat Trump to make sure there's not a demented old man in the White House.

An 80 year old man shouldn't be President. Full stop.

goethe.cx
Apr 23, 2014


Sinteres posted:

Fortunately we still have more than two years

well...

khy
Aug 15, 2005

Good news everyone, spending all that time on the golf course makes Trump a BETTER president!

SHS says so!

But the EVIL PRESS are the ones who are unhappy he's spending so much time Golfing, not anyone else.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Boon posted:

An 80 year old man shouldn't be President. Full stop.

I know the Senate was supposed to be the stolid "Wise Old Men" model of governance in opposition to the rambunctious and possibly easily swayed by their electorate Reps, but man alive we don't need more than a few folks eligible for Medicare/retirement in the body politic, much less 80 year old drecks of dying flesh shaping policy.

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

Is this the normal amount of politicians to be retiring

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!
If Orrin Hatch had retired about 15 years ago he might have a legacy that wasn't truly vile!

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Presenting: A dude who is EXTREMELY lucky he correctly predicted edgelord vampire culture in 1992:

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Uncle Wemus posted:

Is this the normal amount of politicians to be retiring

There's definitely an uptick of people resigning because of scandals and people resigning because they can't win with Trumpism. But that doesn't mean there aren't some usual cases of people just deciding to hang it up for personal, business, or political reasons. You seek higher office. You seek a more profitable position you secured while in office. You just get tired of it. There's more reasons than Trump or scandal to quit.

But Trump and scandal are definitely in the mix.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Boon posted:

An 80 year old man shouldn't be President. Full stop.

Normally I'd agree, but empathy and humanity appear to have skipped a generation or two so until millenials become eligible it's either old Silent Generation socialists, or Boomer and Gen X trash.

Also unlike the other choices, Bernie would definitely win, and the current president is an oldman fascist.

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

VitalSigns posted:

Normally I'd agree, but empathy and humanity appear to have skipped a generation or two so until millenials become eligible it's either old Silent Generation socialists, or Boomer and Gen X trash.

Nothing says empathy like writing off entire generations as garbage.

Family Values
Jun 26, 2007


VitalSigns posted:

Normally I'd agree, but empathy and humanity appear to have skipped a generation or two so until millenials become eligible it's either old Silent Generation socialists, or Boomer and Gen X trash.

Also unlike the other choices, Bernie would definitely win, and the current president is an oldman fascist.

Uhhh, how many members of the Silent Generation do you know?

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Sinteres posted:

Nothing says empathy like writing off entire generations as garbage.

Truth hurts.


It's amusing how empty liberal politics are.

2016: Bernie's policies aren't important because he'll never win and winning is all the matters so you need to be okay with worse policies for the sake of winning.
2020: Now Bernie has the best policies and best chance of winning, but ewwww old people

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person

Elizabeth Mills posted:

Presenting: A dude who is EXTREMELY lucky he correctly predicted edgelord vampire culture in 1992:



...So we're supposed to let them march us into gas chambers so that others will...peacefully stop them?

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

lol if you think you know which Democratic candidate has the best chance of winning in 2020 already

Uncleanly Cleric
Oct 17, 2005


VitalSigns posted:

Normally I'd agree, but empathy and humanity appear to have skipped a generation or two so until millenials become eligible it's either old Silent Generation socialists, or Boomer and Gen X trash.

Hey now! Oh wait, yeah, Gen X is pretty much garbage too. :(

Euphoriaphone
Aug 10, 2006

How are the amount of Congressional resignations in 2017 trending compared to the average during the first year into a new presidency?

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Euphoriaphone posted:

How are the amount of Congressional resignations in 2017 trending compared to the average during the first year into a new presidency?

Well above average.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound

khy posted:

Good news everyone, spending all that time on the golf course makes Trump a BETTER president!

SHS says so!

But the EVIL PRESS are the ones who are unhappy he's spending so much time Golfing, not anyone else.

technically this is true: the less time he spends exercising the powers of the office, the better\

A four year golf vacation is, like, the best possible trump presidency scenario

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

VitalSigns posted:

Truth hurts.


It's amusing how empty liberal politics are.

2016: Bernie's policies aren't important because he'll never win and winning is all the matters so you need to be okay with worse policies for the sake of winning.
2020: Now Bernie has the best policies and best chance of winning, but ewwww old people

It's not ewww old people, it's hey great for Bernie that he's in good shape for his age but this is kind of a job where you'd want to have a great deal of certainy the guy isn't going to drop dead during the campaign or his term in office, or even that he won't be dealing with cognitive impairment or ill health. It's a hard job for anyone, and even at middle age people are complaining about how much less energy they have to stay up late and poo poo. There are genuine problems with an 80 year old president that can't be handwaved away by pretending people just don't like the elderly, and our oldest presidents are prime examples of why.

Also it's way too early to say he has the best chance to win, since we don't know who the other candidates are yet and if his age would become an issue. Arguably presenting a contrast with Trump's advanced age would be nice though, and obviously Bernie can't do that even if his own advanced age doesn't become an issue.

Boon
Jun 21, 2005

by R. Guyovich

VitalSigns posted:

2020: Now Bernie has the best policies and best chance of winning, but ewwww old people

Yes, it has to do with old people being icky and not, you know, actually biologically incapable of keeping up with the demands of leading the preeminent country in the world.

Come on dude, who are you trying to convince?

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

Trabisnikof posted:

They didn't vote for House Delegates to thumb their nose at Trump

They did though. They were polled, and negative feelings towards Trump were a motiviation for a decent chunk of voters. This is going to amaze you, but plenty of people don't vote based on a clear understanding of what their candidate can and can't do. Plenty of them vote to send a message, and plenty of them wanted to send a 'gently caress trump' message.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...m=.827fd7308649

gently caress that is a long URL, sorry about that.

Elizabeth Mills posted:

Presenting: A dude who is EXTREMELY lucky he correctly predicted edgelord vampire culture in 1992:



I spent a good minute convinced this was satire.


Hieronymous Alloy posted:

technically this is true: the less time he spends exercising the powers of the office, the better\

A four year golf vacation is, like, the best possible trump presidency scenario

This is borne out by how very uninterested Caligula and Nero were in actual governance.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Trabisnikof posted:

lol if you think you know which Democratic candidate has the best chance of winning in 2020 already

normally I hate the "lol if you think" construction but it is acceptable here

if Bernie runs in 2020 and is in good physical condition by the primaries he'll be someone I seriously consider supporting but going all Bernie or Bust in January two thousand loving eighteen is silly

Willo567
Feb 5, 2015

Cheating helped me fail the test and stay on the show.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

yeah, either he is going even more nuts or indictments/mueller news is about to hit. either way holy gently caress.


so my guess is there will be another missle test soon, and from the ratcheting up of rhetoric, maybe a preemptive strike.

I honestly don't think a preemptive strike is likely to happen

It's just the administrations way of trying to scare China and Russia

GoldfishStew
Feb 25, 2017

ASK ME ABOUT BEING A GROWNUP WHO FUCKS A REAL DOLL
fine maybe Seth is bad but Kyle griffin is the real deal

goethe.cx
Apr 23, 2014


I think Bernie could win and I'd vote for him, but who he picks as VP would be a crucial issue

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Koyaanisgoatse posted:

I think Bernie could win and I'd vote for him, but who he picks as VP would be a crucial issue

Keith Ellison (it'll never happen)

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Koyaanisgoatse posted:

I think Bernie could win and I'd vote for him, but who he picks as VP would be a crucial issue

Bernie/Biden: because we want to see Unelected President Pelosi

farraday
Jan 10, 2007

Lower those eyebrows, young man. And the other one.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Keith Ellison (it'll never happen)

Keith Ellison seems to be angling for speaker.

BlueBlazer
Apr 1, 2010

GreyjoyBastard posted:

normally I hate the "lol if you think" construction but it is acceptable here

if Bernie runs in 2020 and is in good physical condition by the primaries he'll be someone I seriously consider supporting but going all Bernie or Bust in January two thousand loving eighteen is silly

If Bernie goes and runs at least a full 5k, and then squats 250 I'll vote for him no problem.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

BlueBlazer posted:

If Bernie goes and runs at least a full 5k, and then squats 250 I'll vote for him no problem.

That'd sell me too :v:

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GoldfishStew
Feb 25, 2017

ASK ME ABOUT BEING A GROWNUP WHO FUCKS A REAL DOLL
Honestly anyone can run a 5k

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