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Dr. Gargunza posted:Check Amazon for Badger's Sotar 20/20. That's a fine detail airbrush that's frequently used by pro calligraphers. If you're lucky, you can get a really good deal on it; I picked mine up for about $75 a few years back. (You'll likely need an adapter for the air hose, but Badger customer service can help you pick one out.) You're thinking of the Patriot (which is what Master's dual action grav feed brush is a copy of).
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Arthil posted:Yeah that plus the canned responses of "It's a very legit deal" almost screams "Our Facebook page has been hacked". They did post a phone number where you can call in and verify it, and you can't order via that number either. Looking at their website, this seems pretty normal for a company that might not be too web savvy!  yeah, to me this is just confirming this is real 
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Jan 4, 2018 16:51
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JackMann posted:I've only had experience through their Kickstarters. I've had good luck, but I've heard other people have had issues getting their stuff. That said, if the e-mails were going through around the holidays, they might've been short-manned. You might also look into alternate ways of getting in contact like their Facebook. Sometimes putting your issues out in public can kickstart some action. Ahh man... Looking at their Facebook page it isn't just me by a longshot. They really, really dropped the ball hard it looks like.
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Frobbe posted:They did post a phone number where you can call in and verify it, and you can't order via that number either. And the phone number they posted is listed all over (and on things like 2016 sales flyers) as a badger contact phone number, so either its legit or it'll be taken down fairly quickly when customer service starts getting calls about a sale they know nothing about.
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Jan 4, 2018 16:57
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Dr. Gargunza posted:The Krome was mentioned above; I don't have any experience with that one. Is that the "AK-47 of airbrushes," or am I thinking of something else? I have no idea, but I loving love mine. It's solid, easy to clean, and I feel like I'm just barely starting to figure out how to use it appropriately.
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Like. It's 2018, I'm not sure there's much excuse for what seems to be a big name in airbrushing to not have a website that doesn't look like it's from 2001, and have a method of doing this deal via more legitimate sounding ways through said better website.
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Arthil posted:I'm more just annoyed that they took payment before shipping the item honestly. Whether this is resolved or not, I definitely won't be buying from them again. Not to say that their actions are reasonable here or that you should buy from them again, but most online retailers take your money as soon as you place your order, not when they ship the item. It's just that most ship the item within a day or so of the order.
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I love that people are bitching about how Badger is doing a 50% off deal on all their stuff. Don't take advantage of it I guess. Or do and definitely get a Patriot 105 if you don't have one. I also have a Renegade Krome and it's a great detail brush, Sotar is supposed to be just as good but very different feel.
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I have the Sotar 20/20 already, what's the best one I can order for $54 and save a bunch of cash on (despite needing to have it sent international) to make this worth it? Looking for best brush bang for the buck to suit all my warhams needs.
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The Dark Project posted:I have the Sotar 20/20 already, what's the best one I can order for $54 and save a bunch of cash on (despite needing to have it sent international) to make this worth it? Looking for best brush bang for the buck to suit all my warhams needs. Patriot 105 is the king of brushes. With the fine needle it is super versatile from priming to detail work on vehicles. I really only use the Krome (like Sotar) for detail work on pretty small stuff.
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bonds0097 posted:Patriot 105 is the king of brushes. With the fine needle it is super versatile from priming to detail work on vehicles. I really only use the Krome (like Sotar) for detail work on pretty small stuff. How about the Xtreme Patriot 105? Better? Or too detailed?
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Neurolimal posted:You're thinking of the Patriot (which is what Master's dual action grav feed brush is a copy of). The Masters DA brushes are Iwata clones even down to those kinda awful little threaded nozzle seats. Edit: The Dark Project posted:How about the Xtreme Patriot 105? Better? Or too detailed? The Xtreme has the super detail needle stock but you can pick up the regular 0.5 pretty cheap. Even with the 0.2 my 105 still can really put out some paint. Still more than I like, actually, compared to my Masters. I added a trigger extension which helped control some. The Xtreme comes with the extended trigger upgrade and air control nubbin. darnon fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Jan 4, 2018 |
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Also, Badger mentioned if you can't pay today, send an email asking for what you'd like to buy, and use that email shortly after to still get the deal. So if you're between paychecks and decided to eat ramen or not eating at all you might be able to swing it and still survive instead of dying with an airbrush in your cold dead hands.
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darnon posted:The Xtreme has the super detail needle stock but you can pick up the regular 0.5 pretty cheap. Even with the 0.2 my 105 still can really put out some paint. Still more than I like, actually, compared to my Masters. I added a trigger extension which helped control some. The Xtreme comes with the extended trigger upgrade and air control nubbin. God their website sucks arse, I can't find needle stock on the page at all. If I get the Xtreme, would you recommend just getting a 0.5 as an additional item for it? Anything else? Might as well save while I can!
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The kit is like $13 Prime shipped on Amazon. If you plan on doing a lot of big vehicle basecoating and general spraying it might be worth getting, but it's not that huge of a difference.
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Arthil posted:So I bought something from CoolMinisOrNot last month. On December 5th to be exact. They took my money on December 7th. All I've been giving are some very canned responses, not really answering my concerns when putting in a support ticket. I ordered something years ago and it literally took over a year to ship. I also live 15 minutes from CMoN. Haven't ordered from them since.
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darnon posted:The kit is like $13 Prime shipped on Amazon. If you plan on doing a lot of big vehicle basecoating and general spraying it might be worth getting, but it's not that huge of a difference. No worries I'll go for the Xtreme Patriot as it seems to have the goods over the regular Patriot 105 (especially the trigger etc). Can't hurt. This is pretty fantastic as the only regular airbrush I have is an old Aztec one which required you to change nozzles to use it, and was underslung bottle fed instead of gravity fed. Still good, but a bit old by airbrush standards. Could still likely use it for basecoating if I need to and keep the Xtreme for a bit closer detail and the Sotar 20/20 for when I want to go really insane on the detail.
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Speaking as a painter for a couple years but a complete airbrush newbie, what's the one model I should look at getting?
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Patriot 105. It's a nice, solid workhorse of a brush. It's great for basecoats and priming, and can handle some detail. It's not a super fine-detail brush, but it's great for learning on.
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Pyrolocutus posted:Speaking as a painter for a couple years but a complete airbrush newbie, what's the one model I should look at getting? edit: According to the manual, it can also be used for cake decorating and spray on tans! quote:Badger https://www.badgerairbrush.com and https://www.badger-airbrush.co.uk (airbrushes and paints) - USA-made airbrushes, the Patriot 105 is considered ‘the AK-47 of airbrushes’ (goon quote, it's a high compliment) because of its simplicity and versatility. It’s perfect for priming and base coating. The Renegade Krome and Sotar are high detail brushes and are also highly rated. I would NOT recommend the Sotar as your first airbrush (many people snap them up in Amazon's crazy cheap deals) unless you're prepared to learn very quickly about thinning your paints and keeping your airbrush clean. Note that Badger price their airbrushes lower than other brands because historically they just have. This does not mean they are 'cheaper' or lower quality, they are just as good as much more expensive airbrushes. Weirdo fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Jan 4, 2018 |
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Thanks! Just sent them an email to get the ball rolling.
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Arthil posted:So I bought something from CoolMinisOrNot last month. On December 5th to be exact. They took my money on December 7th. All I've been giving are some very canned responses, not really answering my concerns when putting in a support ticket. CMoN wildly underestimated the volume of Black Friday sales and they have a huge backlog of orders that they're working through.
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bonds0097 posted:Patriot 105 is the king of brushes. With the fine needle it is super versatile from priming to detail work on vehicles. I really only use the Krome (like Sotar) for detail work on pretty small stuff. So if I already have a Krome getting the Patriot 105 would make a lot of sense?
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I've got the 105 and it's great, easy to care for and does a good job of laying down basecoats and primer. If I was going to get a detail airbrush, should I get the Sotor 2020 or the Renegade Krome?
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Cmon is way behind on a ton of people's orders, and it seems entirely random as to who's getting their stuff fulfilled at any given moment. If I want a new detail brush, am I better served getting the Krome or the Sotar? E: ^ Oh, hey, how 'bout that.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:So if I already have a Krome getting the Patriot 105 would make a lot of sense? Absolutely. You'll be so much happier for basecoating and priming and cleaning will be infinitely easier and faster. As for Krome vs. Sotar, can't say. I hear they're very comparable in quality and function but they handle differently where the Sotar is more like a pen or pencil and the krome handles like a traditional airbrush. For my part, I use the Krome very similarly to the 105, just much closer to the model and at lower PSI.
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Yeah, Sotar is meant for detailing. You can change out the needles and such like anything else, but it's meant as a detailing brush above all else. Like, doing space marine knee-pad shading and smaller.
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bonds0097 posted:Absolutely. You'll be so much happier for basecoating and priming and cleaning will be infinitely easier and faster. Awesome. I have been really happy with the Krome.
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I JUST bought a 200-9 gravity feed like 3 days ago. But it was like $60 on amazon with free shipping so..really about the same price anyway. So far I'm happy with it. I actually have been getting really frustrated with the 105. Learning the action of the trigger is too much for me on trying to get used to airbrushing. I like that it's set-and-forget on the 200-9, because I really am only laying down primer and basecoats with it anyway. I know a ton of people love the 105 but I'm just stupid I guess, I have a really hard time figuring out my paint consistency/PSI with the variable trigger in the mix as well. It's been a gamble whether I can reproduce spraying vallejo grey primer effectively. I keep loving up and having to strip and start over. I DID also pick up a 3 set of black/grey/white badger airbrush primer in case it's easier to work with.
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I'm 100% in need of a detail airbrush, so Sotar it is. Thanks, dudes.General Olloth posted:I JUST bought a 200-9 gravity feed like 3 days ago. I've come to really prefer the Badger primers over Vallejo, but I specifically switched for a more matte finish. You probably will find the Badger stuff easier to work with, although a drop of flow improver for every 15-20 drops of primer isn't a bad idea, if you've got it handy. For your base coats, you can go fairly heavy, since the primer shrinks as it dries to retain detail. I've had models I thought I really heavily over-painted turn out just fine. As long as your model isn't totally blurry with wet primer, you're probably okay. What specifically's giving you trouble with your priming?
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Excellent tartan. I had to strip mine and restart after messing it up, myself.
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Arthil posted:So I bought something from CoolMinisOrNot last month. On December 5th to be exact. They took my money on December 7th. All I've been giving are some very canned responses, not really answering my concerns when putting in a support ticket. I've some Dark Age minis from them and tacked a few odd paints onto the orders, and they've always arrived in a week or two. They were missing some tiny clear resin skulls once. I contacted customer support and it took quite awhile but they did end up sending them to me without any trouble aside from the wait. Maybe CMON published stuff gets priority treatment though, I dunno. selnaric posted:Finished another one. Is that knot design on his chest freehand? Because if so 
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Crossposting. Figured I'd post the summation of my work the past few weeks. The board is about 95% done and I still need to base these models, but otherwise they're all done. Next up, 15 Dire Avengers, 5 Shining Spears, and touching up 3 Wave Serpents    
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Those little obelisks are sick as hell, where'd ya get em?
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grassy gnoll posted:I'm 100% in need of a detail airbrush, so Sotar it is. Thanks, dudes. Trouble getting a good spray pattern. Lots of big specs on top of the main spray. Stuff I threw in the stripper was fuzzy looking, more than being too much it looked like a bad texture. Was trying everything from no flow improver to maybe 20% at different psis and the pattern was always the same hosed up. Deep cleaned as well to make sure it wasn't due to residue. Specifically have lots of trouble with the grey. The black is really forgiving, can just slap that poo poo on basically. Also having trouble with Screaming Skull in the same way on basecoats. Chalky whites give me a lot of trouble in the thinning department I guess. Going to try the badger grey tomorrow probably.
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Boon posted:Crossposting. Noice. Very impressed.
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JackMann posted:Less tangentially, I'm painting up this troll, and a buddy suggested a leonine paint scheme, since the tail looks a bit lionish. I was thinking that I might try sculpting some hair on him as a mane. However, I've done very little sculpting, so I was wondering if any one has a good guide on the subject. This got kind of lost in the airbrush talk. Any recommendations?
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