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Well if you guys get an airfield I'd man up the control tower for you but I sure as hell wouldn't go back on a boat. Also no night ops. And no daytime FCLPs. And everyone is PPR and the answer is always 'no'.
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Article one, section eight of the U.S. Constitution posted:To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water; Goon Privateer anybody?
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piL posted:Goon Privateer anybody? We prefer to be called, "independent contractors," these days.
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Jan 4, 2018 23:28
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If only. Privateer life was ok during the Napoleonic wars.
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Jan 4, 2018 23:30
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Can GOONAV take a broken down, overweight army commo guy? I know JANAP 128
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Jan 4, 2018 23:37
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piL posted:Goon Privateer anybody? In 1991 we hoped that, in the usual way of Navy regulations, prize money rules were still mouldering away on the books somewhere. There seemed like a non-zero chance that we might actually be called upon to take a prize during the "blockade Iraqi and Jordanian ports" phase of Desert Storm. I don't know what a modern container ship and a fuckton of cars looted from Kuwait would have sold for, but a 1/600th share of that would still fill quite a few stripper g-strings.
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ManMythLegend posted:We prefer to be called, "independent contractors," these days. o captain my captain
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Jan 5, 2018 00:49
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Mr. Nice! posted:maffew is our seabee and damnit someone needs to be able to
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Jan 5, 2018 00:55
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Oh no he'll build a fence but from incorrectly ordered materials so it'll have to be tore down and rebuilt to meet spec.
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I just got notified that I致e been approved to mobilize. I picked Africom, DC and Norfolk in that order. Guess I値l see you chumps in Norfolk but I don稚 find out until tomorrow for sure.
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Jan 5, 2018 02:00
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I値l fix the airplane computers but only as a contractor
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I値l probably get run out of the thread for this but can I be the inaugural member of the Marine Det onboard?
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Jan 5, 2018 02:35
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MrMojok posted:I値l probably get run out of the thread for this but can I be the inaugural member of the Marine Det onboard? You'll only have yourself to stand in line with, and nobody to spot you.
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Jan 5, 2018 02:50
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MrMojok posted:I値l probably get run out of the thread for this but can I be the inaugural member of the Marine Det onboard? Can we afford to feed you? What berthing will you be in?
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Jan 5, 2018 02:54
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He can bunk with gunny.
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This is why I said we could man a PHIBRON, we had Marines, Seabees, and all sorts of odds and ends
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tacopie posted:Can we afford to feed you? https://www.amazon.com/PACK-Crayola-64-Crayons-52-0064/dp/B00OQJEDUE/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1515117749&sr=8-5&keywords=crayola+crayons Doesn't seem all that expensive.
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MrMojok posted:I’ll probably get run out of the thread for this but can I be the inaugural member of the Marine Det onboard? We can take a 4 man state room together.
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TF and I require our own staterooms with head and shower.
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lightpole posted:TF and I require our own staterooms with head and shower. Upholstered armchair, standard radio antenna connection...
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shovelbum posted:Upholstered armchair, standard radio antenna connection... Motherfucking satellite tv and wireless internet, too.
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FrozenVent posted:Motherfucking satellite tv and wireless internet, too. Uh I'm sorry this contract was written in 1954
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shovelbum posted:Uh I'm sorry this contract was written in 1954 You realize there are costs to that don't you!? Good news about a contract written in 1954 though, gonna get 30 days 2nds pay along with 6 hours OT/day due to my average for severance after spending 17 days working.
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lightpole posted:You realize there are costs to that don't you!? Yeah exactly contracts only change for the worse, the older the better
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LingcodKilla posted:Someone with better drawing skills than me should draw up a stick figure ship. If I wasn't on the phone I'd draw two boxes. One named reactor and one named Intel ( cvic if it's a carrier!) And fit as many clip art dudes in those boxes as possible. Then one Noble pooping into the boxes and a seabee looking sad because he doesn't know how to use his hammer. Feel free to steal my idea anyone.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Oh no he'll build a fence but from incorrectly ordered materials so it'll have to be tore down and rebuilt to meet spec. Cool fact, I've graduated from fences to actual buildings with incorrect materials
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Somewhere in the Naval Historical and Heritage Center exists a sound file with a long empty string of silence, a couple of comments on various shipping contacts, another long pause and my JOOD asking me, 'So how about it? Mutiny and a life of Piracy? Do you think the crew would go for it?'.
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piL posted:Somewhere in the Naval Historical and Heritage Center exists a sound file with a long empty string of silence, a couple of comments on various shipping contacts, another long pause and my JOOD asking me, 'So how about it? Mutiny and a life of Piracy? Do you think the crew would go for it?'. While doing anti piracy operations we worked out how many ships per month we would need to pirate to pay for the LHD and crew salary. It wasn't that many.
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You would need more than 1? A tanker or box boat should cover it but the bigger the better.
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You're lucky to get 10% of the real value. Maybe better if you've been working with a good fence for a few years.
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I thought it was a hypothetical? Like if you took a box boat you would need a place to actually offload thousands of boxes and then sell whatever is inside, not actually knowing what's inside. It's basically unfeasible. A tanker is easier, pirates have been taking them and then just lightering, it's actually possible. Might be able to take a car carrier if you want to deal with vehicles.
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Or just ransom. Most were being ransomed at that point.
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Laranzu posted:While doing anti piracy operations we worked out how many ships per month we would need to pirate to pay for the LHD and crew salary. Yes but what about the rear end ton of Marines on the ship too? Do they get a cut?
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They're the first ones to be ransomed.
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Nostalgia4Ass posted:Yes but what about the rear end ton of Marines on the ship too? Do they get a cut? Hijack at least one shipment from bodybuilding.com and they will be fine
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Y'all need to back up to that Letter of Marque idea. Paying for that up front and "finding evidence of sanction violation" would clear up so many headaches. Get some folks from the cop thread to do a ride along to show how to "find evidence."
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Laranzu posted:Or just ransom. Most were being ransomed at that point. Taking ships really slowed after 2010 and piracy moved to the Gulf of Guinea and west Africa for oil money with help from Nigerians. The Navy doesn't get letters of Marque, those go to private vessels in the merchant marine. The Navy is supposed to do it for honor and a pretty uniform or something.
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Laranzu posted:While doing anti piracy operations we worked out how many ships per month we would need to pirate to pay for the LHD and crew salary. Are you factoring the cost of operations into that? When we were doing airstrikes in Yemen we dumped tons and tons of ordinance in the bomb boxes. For the uninitiated the Harrier takes off like a fixed wing aircraft and hovers to land (we all know VTOL). Part of that hovering to land and slamming on the deck means the harrier 1) needs to be a certain weight on return 2) shouldn't have things like bombs on it that could fall off it when it slams onto the deck. So you have to have X number of them in the air to run the mission and they have Y amount of fuel/fly time (X and Y being maybe OPSEC since I don't think we tell people how many planes we use or how long their endurance is on those missions?). And they dropped what they didnt use in the ocean, came back to refuel or swap out, and freshly loaded ones would take off to do the same. Z hours long 6 days a week for 3/4s of the deployment. Tons and tons of ordinance dumped in the briny deep. We asked our Marine Liason officer (our squadrons only pilot who flew fighter aircraft) what some of those bombs cost and it wasn't cheap, apparently the electronics in some of them are stupid expensive.
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lightpole posted:Taking ships really slowed after 2010 and piracy moved to the Gulf of Guinea and west Africa for oil money with help from Nigerians. They used to get prize money, too, which was most of their income in those days. Letter of marque were an easy way to increase the size of your fleet for cheap. Modern day merchant ships are fairly ill suited to piracy.
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FrozenVent posted:They used to get prize money, too, which was most of their income in those days. Letter of marque were an easy way to increase the size of your fleet for cheap. Fast ferries, man.
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