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Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


If you ARE doing drone racing though it's one fuckin hell of an adrenaline rush. I suspect mostly because fixing those things is a pain in the rear end.

But yeah try a simulator in the Vive/Rift, those are great fun.

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The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

The Walrus posted:

if anyone requests one i will !also! make a track, like some sort of internet dance off

Moogs posted:

It clocks in at just under five minutes, but requesting This Must Be The Place by the Talking Heads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9gK2fOq4MY



here we are! I didn't know the song but i was quite getting into it a couple listens in so i think it turned out pretty well.

https://www.soundboxing.co/challenge/a519beac-f1b2-11e7-9682-0a580a200e29


edit: one thing I'll say is I was pacing around a lot while making it so if the beats aren't quite lining up you should re-position. but generally it should be pretty intuitive where you stand as I kind of try to 'lead' the walking with the punches

Ham Sandwiches
Jul 7, 2000

Cojawfee posted:

Do you live in the US? If so, flying a drone with a VR headset is illegal.

This is flat out untrue, and DJI sells a set of VR / FPV goggles, here in the United States

It's ok to not know stuff, please don't spread nonsense

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Ham Sandwiches posted:

This is flat out untrue, and DJI sells a set of VR / FPV goggles, here in the United States

It's ok to not know stuff, please don't spread nonsense

https://www.faa.gov/uas/media/Part_107_Summary.pdf

If you have a second person to act as a spotter sure, you can. If you don't, no it isn't legal. Pretty clear-cut to me but hey: It's ok to not know things.

Ham Sandwiches
Jul 7, 2000

KakerMix posted:

https://www.faa.gov/uas/media/Part_107_Summary.pdf

If you have a second person to act as a spotter sure, you can. If you don't, no it isn't legal. Pretty clear-cut to me but hey: It's ok to not know things.

In what world do you interpret that as "It is illegal to fly a drone with a VR headset in the us, period" instead of "There are restrictions on how you can use them" which is true of the drone as well, in terms of distance from airport, altitude limits to respect as well?

Just to be clear: It is 100% legal to fly a Drone with a VR headset in the United States of America, though there isn't much support for existing VR headsets

Ham Sandwiches fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Jan 5, 2018

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Ok, it's illegal to take your drone out to the park and fly it in VR without someone with you with VLOS, but you can do it in your home.

Edit: Lol, now you're going the other way. In what way is it 100% legal? There are still restrictions.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Ham Sandwiches posted:

In what world do you interpret that as "It is illegal to fly a drone with a VR headset in the us, period" instead of "There are restrictions on how you can use them" which is true of the drone as well, in terms of distance from airport, altitude limits to respect as well?

I didn't because it had already been discussed before your smarmily wandered in and said what had already been said, without the smugness.

Ham Sandwiches
Jul 7, 2000

Cojawfee posted:

Ok, it's illegal to take your drone out to the park and fly it in VR without someone with you with VLOS, but you can do it in your home.

But this is false. You can fly in the park, legally (assuming the park is cool with drones) if you follow the rules of FPV flight

[edit]Ok you edited the VLOS / spotter thing

I'm just clarifying there are 0 rules against using a VR headset for FPV flight entirely, if you have the place where you can do it within the rules, please enjoy

Ham Sandwiches fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Jan 5, 2018

Seashell Salesman
Aug 4, 2005

Holy wow! That "Literally A Person" sure is a cool and good poster. He's smart and witty and he smells like a pure mountain stream. I posted in his thread and I got a FANCY NEW AVATAR!!!!
It seems fair to say it's 100% legal, in the same sense it's 100% legal to drive a car (with the restriction that you have a license and follow all the road rules). It's definitely worth making the point that the restriction exists, though.

TheRagamuffin
Aug 31, 2008

In Paradox Space, when you cross the line, your nuts are mine.

KakerMix posted:

I didn't because it had already been discussed before your smarmily wandered in and said what had already been said, without the smugness.

:ironicat:

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.
Why are you arguing with a Bitcoin person?

Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

I thought FAA airspace starts 100' up?

Songbearer
Jul 12, 2007




Fuck you say?
Boo, hiss. My right earpiece is cutting out on the Rift. Reseated the HDMI cable, unscrewed and rescrewed the earpiece, changed USBs, so on. It's definitely a mechanical issue - if I don't set the velcro on the right hand side of the headset then sound comes in fine, but if it's tightened even a little bit then the sound goes away entirely. I'm obviously not going to use it with it loose over one eye (Well, that's a lie, I actually did and now I feel rather unwell) so I've fired off a ticket.

Considering I've had it for over a year and I've used it for some 220 or so hours, I'm not surprised something's decided to cop it - but I was still rather holding out hope it was just a fluke.

rage-saq
Mar 21, 2001

Thats so ninja...

Songbearer posted:

Boo, hiss. My right earpiece is cutting out on the Rift. Reseated the HDMI cable, unscrewed and rescrewed the earpiece, changed USBs, so on. It's definitely a mechanical issue - if I don't set the velcro on the right hand side of the headset then sound comes in fine, but if it's tightened even a little bit then the sound goes away entirely. I'm obviously not going to use it with it loose over one eye (Well, that's a lie, I actually did and now I feel rather unwell) so I've fired off a ticket.

Considering I've had it for over a year and I've used it for some 220 or so hours, I'm not surprised something's decided to cop it - but I was still rather holding out hope it was just a fluke.

This is a known design flaw in the wire that goes from the left headphone to the right through the flexible band in the back. The wire can break over time. I had to have mine replaced under warranty after about 10 months.
Hit up Oculus support and hit them with the “known defect” thing and maybe they will do something about it?

Seashell Salesman
Aug 4, 2005

Holy wow! That "Literally A Person" sure is a cool and good poster. He's smart and witty and he smells like a pure mountain stream. I posted in his thread and I got a FANCY NEW AVATAR!!!!
The Oculus software stopped telling me my IPD setting when I adjust it on the Rift. Anyone encountered that?

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
oh man moogs I'm gonna make you another version of that track, that might be a bit tricky for your *first ever* soundboxing songs. you did really well considering though.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


For best possible results with the TPCast do I want the router mounted high in the room, or the little box plugged into the PC? I can't really put up both.

Helter Skelter
Feb 10, 2004

BEARD OF HAVOC

The one plugged into your PC. The router is just normal 5GHz wifi, it doesn't even need to be in the same room, strictly speaking.

Chubby Henparty
Aug 13, 2007


osirisisdead posted:

Vuzix iWear "video headphones".

Related, someone in the tiny Avegant Glyph community just built steamvr drivers and things like Elite, Subnautica and even SPT look amazing In 3D with no screen door. Guy is tooling around with control options but for 'experiences' like the Old Friend video its so good.

Haptical Sales Slut
Mar 15, 2010

Age 18 to 49
Just tried 'Stand Out' on steam. It's PUBG in fps VR and pretty neat. The min specs say 1070 gtx but it runs fine on my 970 with the rift. It's the little things that stand out; peeking around a corner by literally moving your body, holding the guns scope closer to your eyes so the magnification is stronger, etc. It's incredibly janky still, but I get no motion sickness so it's forgivable.

Moonshine Rhyme
Mar 26, 2010

Hate Hate Hate Hate Hate
Anyone else been diving into modding Fo4vr? Hit about 30 mods already, still no stability issues and it's pretty great!
Was curious if anyone had used the script extender with vr and if that was working, sim settlements is one of the coolest mods I've ever seen in a Bethesda game and I'd like to get the "build in red" mod working. Don't have time to check it myself for now.

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

The script extender doesn't work, sadly.

Someone made a VR version of Place in Red here:
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/28670

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

That is a peckin' lot of bird...
:kazooieass::kazooieass::kazooieass:

Steam has been giving me super weird game suggestions this week and now I see why.

"Because you played games tagged with gore..."

God damnit Steam, just because Gorn owns I don't want to play any lovely indie torture porn games...

Cyberpunkey Monkey
Jun 23, 2003

by Nyc_Tattoo

Chop Sunni posted:

Related, someone in the tiny Avegant Glyph community just built steamvr drivers and things like Elite, Subnautica and even SPT look amazing In 3D with no screen door. Guy is tooling around with control options but for 'experiences' like the Old Friend video its so good.

That looks rad. I think we're on the cusp of a bunch of different really cool poo poo in the next 3 years or so, but I don't think we're really quite there yet. Even the alpha/beta tech demos I've seen have all been focused on more "better" gimmicky hand controller things. This Vuzix thing was on a ridiculous $99 sale, which was within my gently caress-it-let's-try-it impulse-buy-ahoy threshold, especially because I couldn't even give a poo poo about the gimmicky controllers. I 100% only wanted a HMD for a single specific purpose, flying some goddamn internet spaceships!

However, after some experimentation today, the stereoscopic 3D works flawlessly on my Linux box, but whenever I flip it over to stereoscopic mode on Windows the screens go black. Linux just auto-werking and Windows needing hours of tech support with some bizarre nonsensical fix has become my norm for the past few years. I feel like I'm living in an alternate timeline. I spent a while playing with various 3D pictures (the best was this top-bottom aligned picture of some fish and staghorn coral) and videos on my Linux box. So, technically, it works, but not for what I got it for, which is as a HMD for Elite: Dangerous.

I'll get it working, or I'll send it back. No big deal. That's what warranties are for.

Chubby Henparty
Aug 13, 2007


Honestly get a cheap rift, you might be able to get a pre-touch model for next to nothing now. Failing that, get facetrack (or cheap opentrack/ps3eye cam/headset) and set up head tracking on your regular monitor.

Elite with headtracking is fun, in VR its fun, but on the Glyph, at least, it's gorgeous but I don't reckon very playable for long sessions with the tiny FOV.

Chubby Henparty fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Jan 5, 2018

Zsinjeh
Jun 11, 2007

:shoboobs:

rage-saq posted:

This is a known design flaw in the wire that goes from the left headphone to the right through the flexible band in the back. The wire can break over time. I had to have mine replaced under warranty after about 10 months.
Hit up Oculus support and hit them with the “known defect” thing and maybe they will do something about it?
Congrats on the shroud hosting last night btw, seemed to be a lot of good responses to the VR setup in comments.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/215268281

Really feels like VR is starting to come into the mainstream (at least in our small niche circles online). Much less instant reactionary anger from pubs, price is way down since the start and more and more price-worthy computers are VR ready. VRChats insane hype and huge twitch personalities is a great boost.

e: Also been playing more Stand Out lately and it really makes me consider switching to Oculus, or wish for a TPCast that was affordable and also have mic support. The drat cable makes it impossible to spin around as fast as you need to really perform and the touchpad is hot garbage to make work as fine as the tactile feedback of a joystick. Onward, being slower, was completely fine for me doing normal room-scale turning and moving.

Zsinjeh fucked around with this message at 11:37 on Jan 5, 2018

..btt
Mar 26, 2008

Moonshine Rhyme posted:

I used this video
https://youtu.be/aQrppB-_tPE
Covers it pretty quickly and worked for me, the Nexus mod manager works pretty well aside from a necessary tweak he shows you in the video. I think there is another video along the same lines that shows how to enable the DLC.
There's also a Reddit made Google doc with a massive list of tested mods
edit: found it
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xz4VSYQYlGXxUEuHXdN4yF44x72nm_8EshPVkbzKcSk/edit#gid=0

Thanks for this!

Surprise Giraffe
Apr 30, 2007
1 Lunar Road
Moon crater
The Moon
How do people aim so well in pavlov? Between picture clarity and hand eye coordination Im lucky if I manage to randomly spray someones legs off, but theres players who'll headshot me from a distance with a deagle the moment they spot me. I heard there was a virtual shouldering thing to steady your aim but I couldnt get it to work.

Geisladisk
Sep 15, 2007

Surprise Giraffe posted:

How do people aim so well in pavlov? Between picture clarity and hand eye coordination Im lucky if I manage to randomly spray someones legs off, but theres players who'll headshot me from a distance with a deagle the moment they spot me. I heard there was a virtual shouldering thing to steady your aim but I couldnt get it to work.

Use the P90. Grab it with both hands. Aim with both eyes open. You can snap onto targets so fast with that holographic sight. It's a really good training wheel for the basic iron sight guns.

Unrelated - My dad tried VR for the first time last night. He's a pilot and huge aviation nerd. I have a HOTAS joystick setup, and I put him in IL-2: Battle of Stalingrad in a BF-109.

The man was giddy. I think the only time I've ever seen him get this excited was when his first grandchild was born.

Stick100
Mar 18, 2003

Surprise Giraffe posted:

How do people aim so well in pavlov? Between picture clarity and hand eye coordination Im lucky if I manage to randomly spray someones legs off, but theres players who'll headshot me from a distance with a deagle the moment they spot me. I heard there was a virtual shouldering thing to steady your aim but I couldnt get it to work.

If I two hand the AK with single shots (click trackpad on the left to enable disable multiple shots) I can sometimes get 7 kills in a row in TDM. I'm aiming with both eyes open down the iron sights aiming for headshots, but I'm rarely the best on a team. I don't use the virtual shouldering. I can't use any of the other assualt rifles successfully because I can't seem to get used to their iron sights.

Having a stock would really help, I can't even consider using the snipers in Pavlov or Standout holding up both of my unsteady hands.

Also I can't two hand the P90 and land more than a few body shots in a clip so that's impressive. I guess different weapons work for different people.

Stick100
Mar 18, 2003

Helter Skelter posted:

The one plugged into your PC. The router is just normal 5GHz wifi, it doesn't even need to be in the same room, strictly speaking.

I personally found the router to also be incredibly finiky, I have to have a clear line of sight to not either have video/sound flake out/drop (the transmitter) or tracking to be incredibly poor (the router). I'm sure the router itself is fine but the data transmitter (the piece you plug into the batter) must have incredibly weak transmission.

You def. need to get the transmitter as high as possible, but I'd suggest getting a clear line of sight to the router as well. Also you should remote into the router and change the channel and set it to A only. https://github.com/OpenTPCast/Docs/blob/master/guides/ROUTER.md#switching-to-another-wi-fi-network-mode

Geisladisk
Sep 15, 2007

Stick100 posted:

Also I can't two hand the P90 and land more than a few body shots in a clip so that's impressive. I guess different weapons work for different people.

Really? I found the P90 so easy to use because you only need to align one point on the target, versus aligning the rear and front posts on ironsights, and I could do it with both eyes open. I can't use irons to save my life in Pavlov, because I need to close one eye, and it takes up to a couple of seconds for me to align both posts on the target. With the P90 it is as fast as raising my hand. :shrug:

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
If it's a holographic sight, you're supposed to have both eyes open.

rage-saq
Mar 21, 2001

Thats so ninja...

Zsinjeh posted:

Congrats on the shroud hosting last night btw, seemed to be a lot of good responses to the VR setup in comments.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/215268281

Really feels like VR is starting to come into the mainstream (at least in our small niche circles online). Much less instant reactionary anger from pubs, price is way down since the start and more and more price-worthy computers are VR ready. VRChats insane hype and huge twitch personalities is a great boost.

e: Also been playing more Stand Out lately and it really makes me consider switching to Oculus, or wish for a TPCast that was affordable and also have mic support. The drat cable makes it impossible to spin around as fast as you need to really perform and the touchpad is hot garbage to make work as fine as the tactile feedback of a joystick. Onward, being slower, was completely fine for me doing normal room-scale turning and moving.

Thanks! I totally didn’t expect it and it was totally loving MENTAL. I’m getting ready to play Stand Out with a buddy after playing those few games of Onward with shroud and some others and then my chat starts to go crazy and I hear the sound indicating I was hosted and see that shroud hosted me with 28,000 people and I’m like ”Uhh, I have to go show these guys the business” and fortunately my first round was quite good.
Meanwhile I’ve got my twitch chat loving going loving nuclear and I have to figure out what to do about it having never done anything like it before. It literally broke the streamlabs chatbot from all the follows, chat stream, etc.
I played VR for so long but I was so pumped I hardly slept afterwards. It was insane.
My friend The Law who I play VR with a lot also got a shoutout (but not host) from shroud and he had a few hundred people for a while and we both had huge new followings last night.

I also think VR is really coming into its own, there are a lot of great single player and multiplayer games that scratch a lot of itches and it does social (VRchat) in a way that normal games can’t touch.
People like shroud giving it a boost on their stream is going to accelerate that, especially when those people end up watching me and I can articulate just how awesome VR is and advocate for getting onboard. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen about a dozen people say they were finally off the fence and getting VR or a protube and getting into FPS games on my stream the past 2 days.

Also, I love my Oculus, but if you have a Vive I probably wouldn’t rebuy. With next gen controllers (knuckles, lilac controller) for Lighthouse 1/2 launching soon some of the Vives biggest weaknesses will have options for getting addressed.

DisposableHero
Feb 25, 2005
bah weep granna weep ninny bong

Ciaphas posted:

For best possible results with the TPCast do I want the router mounted high in the room, or the little box plugged into the PC? I can't really put up both.

Someone else already covered this but as a point of data I just have my router sitting by my computer in a separate room from my actual VR play space and it works fine.

I have the actual TPCast transmitter mounted high on a wall in the VR room and I run an active HDMI cable from my PC to a plug to my VR room when i want to use it since that DOES need to be in the same room. It's not ideal but pulling over one cable to plug into the wall so I can use the best possible VR space in my house felt like a reasonable compromise.

DareToSlack
Aug 24, 2006
I'm not gay, but $20 is $20.
https://twitter.com/htcvive/status/949339978521169920

Higher resolution Vive incoming?

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Awwwww poo poo son

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Announcement for an early Gen 2 headset, maybe? 2018Q4 or 2019Q1?

I hope it's a Gen 1.5, honestly. A Gen 2 Vive, while the Vive itself is still sitting at 600 bucks?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

PerrineClostermann posted:

Announcement for an early Gen 2 headset, maybe? 2018Q4 or 2019Q1?

I hope it's a Gen 1.5, honestly. A Gen 2 Vive, while the Vive itself is still sitting at 600 bucks?

Considering a lot of the parts in the vive after custom, it probably costs the same to make them as it does to make next gen parts.

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Kazy
Oct 23, 2006

0x38: FLOPPY_INTERNAL_ERROR

Looks like it’s hinting at a better lens design with a bigger sweet spot.

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