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Ace of Aces posted:I feel like that's probably the intent of the character, but that's a positive trait in traditional Japanese and American culture, which probably explains his popularity on both sides of the pond. That, and the epic "SOLOMON, I HAVE RETURNED" scene. I have zero issue with his popularity, since even villains can be popular. My problem is when people try to justify his actions or even say he's a good man. No, he's not. Even in the grey vs grey world of the Federation/Zeon conflict, Gato comes across, to me, as a pretty dark grey. Though I will admit, the "SOLOMON, I HAVE RETURNED" scene was pretty cool.
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Inferno-sama posted:While I agree with what you're saying, gonna have to disagree with you on Gato being one of the "characters who aren't so bad" given his idolisation of Gihren Zabi, willingness to perform a colony drop and his general hypocrisy regarding the Feddies making the GP02 being such a horrible thing, yet his usage of it isn't. I will grant his loyalty to his men being one of his positive characteristics, but Gato honestly feels like he's loyalty gone too far. Yet he's recruitable several times, whereas Cima hasn't been recruitable once. You can't even use the loyalty aspect, since she only left Zeon after she was used as a scapegoat for the nerve gas used in the colonies Zeon used for Operation British, when she was told it was just knockout gas. Hell, seeing as she's on the same side as the Albion crew in the final battle, it makes more sense for her to be recruitable, but she isn't, and it baffles me. I mean, is she unpopular in Japan and/or in Banpresto? Cause if that's the case, I can see why, but if not, I don't get it. This is true, I guess I'm just so used to Gato getting a more sympathetic treatment in every SRW appearance that it's skewed my perception a bit. To be honest, I'm not a fan, kinda looking forward to wasting him for good in Impact (the Neue Ziel isn't even cool). As for why Cima is never recruitable while recent games have even made Yazan recruitable, well, it kinda feels like misogyny (mostly unintentional, I'll grant right now so nobody gets it twisted), just gonna come out and say it. Cima is a rare female character in anime whose story and character arc are truly her own, rather than wrapped up in someone else's story. Her death isn't anyone's "greatest failure", she was nobody's love interest or relative, she was just a soldier following her personal code, so it's probably never even occurred to the guys at Banpresto to make her available. I mean, why else would anyone care about a woman being a secret character if her survival doesn't redeem somebody or rescue a star-crossed relationship? Like, even with Haman, one of the most independent badass women in SRW, her death is considered this big failure moment for Judau, so not even she can escape that formula. Unintentional though it might be, it's still a pretty bad look for Banpresto. Not to mention, this was a woman with an acerbic, aggressive personality and ambition, you can guess how well that goes over with a certain distasteful segment of the anime/video game community. Not accusing Banpresto of that sort of attitude, but it might explain the lack of fans clamoring for Cima becoming playable. Like, gonna be honest, in a world where absolute sociopath and winner of the "most killable man" award Yazan Gable and perennial fuckboy Jerid Messa are playable in V, that's the only explanation I can come up with for why they've never given Cima similar treatment (as an aside, her death is the GP-03's finisher, I mean I get it's the coolest thing Kou ever does but it's kinda insult to injury). Sorry in advance if this sets poo poo off, but it's the most likely conclusion I can draw, given that, as noted, Cima's role in 0083 is such that if she were a man, there's no doubt in my mind she'd have been playable in several past games.
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EclecticTastes posted:This is true, I guess I'm just so used to Gato getting a more sympathetic treatment in every SRW appearance that it's skewed my perception a bit. To be honest, I'm not a fan, kinda looking forward to wasting him for good in Impact (the Neue Ziel isn't even cool). As for why Cima is never recruitable while recent games have even made Yazan recruitable, well, it kinda feels like misogyny (mostly unintentional, I'll grant right now so nobody gets it twisted), just gonna come out and say it. Cima is a rare female character in anime whose story and character arc are truly her own, rather than wrapped up in someone else's story. Her death isn't anyone's "greatest failure", she was nobody's love interest or relative, she was just a soldier following her personal code, so it's probably never even occurred to the guys at Banpresto to make her available. I mean, why else would anyone care about a woman being a secret character if her survival doesn't redeem somebody or rescue a star-crossed relationship? Like, even with Haman, one of the most independent badass women in SRW, her death is considered this big failure moment for Judau, so not even she can escape that formula. Unintentional though it might be, it's still a pretty bad look for Banpresto. Yeah, that makes sense. It definitely feels like the sort of thing you'd expect from Japan. Not on any intentional level, but like you said, an acerbic, aggressive, ambitious woman with her own goals and agenda without a connection to a main character or even anything that would really make her stand out like Yazan "I'm gonna violate you" Gable would probably get passed over. Her suit stands out, but Alpha 3 gives that as a secret (specifically the one where you need Kou and Keith to be within 6 kills of each other. Given the other options are the Neue Ziel [Kou has 40 more than Keith] and the Val Waro [Keith has 20 more than Kou], plus the Gebera Tetra has a powerful, long range PLA, you can tell which is the best option) I'm not gonna demand she be recruitable next time they use 0083 (which I'm not even sure they will, since they haven't since Alpha 2, and even that was just wrapping up stuff from Alpha, and Alpha 3 is really just carrying them over) but if you've got more of a chance to bring in Yazan "Gassing isn't fun since you don't get to personally kill them" Gable over Cima "Scapegoated" Garahau, there's a bit of a problem going on.
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Inferno-sama posted:Yeah, that makes sense. It definitely feels like the sort of thing you'd expect from Japan. Not on any intentional level, but like you said, an acerbic, aggressive, ambitious woman with her own goals and agenda without a connection to a main character or even anything that would really make her stand out like Yazan "I'm gonna violate you" Gable would probably get passed over. Her suit stands out, but Alpha 3 gives that as a secret (specifically the one where you need Kou and Keith to be within 6 kills of each other. Given the other options are the Neue Ziel [Kou has 40 more than Keith] and the Val Waro [Keith has 20 more than Kou], plus the Gebera Tetra has a powerful, long range PLA, you can tell which is the best option) I'm not gonna demand she be recruitable next time they use 0083 (which I'm not even sure they will, since they haven't since Alpha 2, and even that was just wrapping up stuff from Alpha, and Alpha 3 is really just carrying them over) but if you've got more of a chance to bring in Yazan "Gassing isn't fun since you don't get to personally kill them" Gable over Cima "Scapegoated" Garahau, there's a bit of a problem going on. Impact gives you the Gerbera Tetra as one of the first units you get in the space chapter, and it shows up piloted by Elle from ZZ. Like, that's where the Japanese fans are at, they love her mobile suit, but they're apparently not too bothered if she's not there to pilot it.
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Brunom1 posted:Do not pursue Lu Bu. Wanting to do that on a fresh game, at this point of the story, is asking for trouble.
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EclecticTastes posted:Impact gives you the Gerbera Tetra as one of the first units you get in the space chapter, and it shows up piloted by Elle from ZZ. Like, that's where the Japanese fans are at, they love her mobile suit, but they're apparently not too bothered if she's not there to pilot it. Well, at least it can be agreed that the Gerbera Tetra is good.
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Inferno-sama posted:Well, at least it can be agreed that the Gerbera Tetra is good. Given that its only advantage is mobility in a game where having a shield vastly improves any mobile suit's survivability and the hosed-up math used for upgrade numbers, even the Zaku II Custom is significantly stronger than the Gerbera Tetra, actually. This, of course, means that if Cima and Mr. Wiseman had fought, Bernie would have won. G'night, everybody!
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EclecticTastes posted:Given that its only advantage is mobility in a game where having a shield vastly improves any mobile suit's survivability and the hosed-up math used for upgrade numbers, even the Zaku II Custom is significantly stronger than the Gerbera Tetra, actually. This, of course, means that if Cima and Mr. Wiseman had fought, Bernie would have won. Okay, if Burger King can beat an ace, then you know you messed up with designing your game.
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# ? Jan 5, 2018 03:56 |
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I just realised what's weird (and neat) about the way the SD Gundams are presented. It's really rare for any Three Kingdoms story to follow behind Sun Quan as the lead. In most games and stories, he's the third wheel, the nobody behind Cao Cao / Liu Bei. This is fresh and actually pretty interesting.
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# ? Jan 5, 2018 03:58 |
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What kind of tests do you run on a tiny Gundam to prove that it is a human?
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# ? Jan 5, 2018 04:03 |
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I had a long rear end day today so this was good to come home to. First off Mazinkaiser's music seems oddly fitting for Lu Bu quote:: Hah… A man with the soul of a demon? Step forward, so that I may feast upon it!
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Ethiser posted:What kind of tests do you run on a tiny Gundam to prove that it is a human? Yes, I've read the manga and know what crazy things JUDA's R&D department can do.
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Ethiser posted:What kind of tests do you run on a tiny Gundam to prove that it is a human? Get a tiny Gundam Hammer and tap them on the knee with it. You might think that sounds dumb but this is Ishigami we're talking about. Though in seriousness considering Machina technology and stuff like that I'm sure JUDA has probably got some comprehensive equipment that lets them detect the necessary brainwave patterns or whatever they were looking for to make sure they just weren't cleverly masquerading deathbots and actually independent thinking "humans". I think it's always important to remember that SRW games tend to use "human" pretty loosely due to the nature of the various weird factions coming together via basic understanding of one another.
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EclecticTastes posted:This is true, I guess I'm just so used to Gato getting a more sympathetic treatment in every SRW appearance that it's skewed my perception a bit. To be honest, I'm not a fan, kinda looking forward to wasting him for good in Impact (the Neue Ziel isn't even cool). As for why Cima is never recruitable while recent games have even made Yazan recruitable, well, it kinda feels like misogyny (mostly unintentional, I'll grant right now so nobody gets it twisted), just gonna come out and say it. Cima is a rare female character in anime whose story and character arc are truly her own, rather than wrapped up in someone else's story. Her death isn't anyone's "greatest failure", she was nobody's love interest or relative, she was just a soldier following her personal code, so it's probably never even occurred to the guys at Banpresto to make her available. I mean, why else would anyone care about a woman being a secret character if her survival doesn't redeem somebody or rescue a star-crossed relationship? Like, even with Haman, one of the most independent badass women in SRW, her death is considered this big failure moment for Judau, so not even she can escape that formula. Unintentional though it might be, it's still a pretty bad look for Banpresto. It's less misogyny, but the actual reason is pretty poo poo. See... Cima's a traitor. Yeah, she's a traitor to a mad man who idolized a monster and her betrayal came from the pain inflicted upon her by said mad man and has survived being hunted for years for a crime she was framed for... but in the general eyes of Japan she's a traitor. That's why Gato, who frankly is a loving rear end in a top hat, gets to be recruitable at times. Because he's "Loyal" and like to me and you and our cultures, we see that and go "gently caress right off. She betrayed the villains." It's the same mindset that causes the whole "Fight honorably even in the face of nuclear armageddon, to give up after that makes you a COWARD!" mentality that pervades the Jingo nuts of Japan. Basically, if Cima had been a "Loyal Soldier who died fighting for the cause" she'd gain more sympathy in Japan like Gato and Delaz do. But, for us, her tale of revenge and fight against a corrupt regime that scape goated her and abused her, is one that we can go "gently caress yeah Cima you show those assholes!"
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# ? Jan 5, 2018 05:44 |
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Onmi posted:It's less misogyny, but the actual reason is pretty poo poo. See... Cima's a traitor. Yeah, she's a traitor to a mad man who idolized a monster and her betrayal came from the pain inflicted upon her by said mad man and has survived being hunted for years for a crime she was framed for... but in the general eyes of Japan she's a traitor. That's why Gato, who frankly is a loving rear end in a top hat, gets to be recruitable at times. Because he's "Loyal" and like to me and you and our cultures, we see that and go "gently caress right off. She betrayed the villains." It's the same mindset that causes the whole "Fight honorably even in the face of nuclear armageddon, to give up after that makes you a COWARD!" mentality that pervades the Jingo nuts of Japan. Basically, if Cima had been a "Loyal Soldier who died fighting for the cause" she'd gain more sympathy in Japan like Gato and Delaz do. But, for us, her tale of revenge and fight against a corrupt regime that scape goated her and abused her, is one that we can go "gently caress yeah Cima you show those assholes!" See, this is why we need an American-focused version of SRW, because I'd totally make Cima recruitable. Hell, I wouldn't even make her secret, just have Amuro or Quattro or whichever cooler-headed pilot is on the scene talk Kou down. And Gato would be totally killable, ditto Yazan. Hell, I'd find some way to bring Yazan back with the Devil Gundam or something just so he can get killed twice. By the way, this conversation made me realize, the Gerbera Tetra is an allegory for Cima's character arc. It looks like just another new Zeon model mobile suit on the surface, but if one takes the time to learn about it, it's actually a Gundam on the inside. EDIT: You know what, actually, gently caress that poo poo, Zeon betrayed Cima first when they tricked her into nerve gassing an entire goddamn space colony! What the hell kind of hosed-up, one-way "loyalty" is that? A group can sell their people up the river all they want, but if someone decides to defect as a result, they're the rear end in a top hat? That's some real lovely hypocrisy, there. EclecticTastes fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Jan 5, 2018 |
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Someday I hope to see these lines when reading a SRW LPquote:Secret Alert!
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EclecticTastes posted:See, this is why we need an American-focused version of SRW, because I'd totally make Cima recruitable. Hell, I wouldn't even make her secret, just have Amuro or Quattro or whichever cooler-headed pilot is on the scene talk Kou down. And Gato would be totally killable, ditto Yazan. Hell, I'd find some way to bring Yazan back with the Devil Gundam or something just so he can get killed twice. it's the mindset of loyalty to the collective over loyalty to the self or morality. It's mindless and stupid completely, 100% hypocritical. But it's a mindset that's thick in Japanese society, You are loyal to the company and your superiors and you'll work yourself to the bone and forgo sleep and family and everything. If you were Japanese and you decided "I don't have to go home after my bosses, I don't need to stay 7 hours after work and not be with my family and devote myself to the project. I need to care about me and make sure I'm living a healthy, happy life and care for those in my life." Then you are seen as overly selfish and betraying the company. The worst thing for Cima is that she's unknowingly put into contact with Jamitov when all she intends to do is help the federation. The information she brought, if brought up to Admiral Kohen or another of the Federation Brass who were more from the Revil faction, then... she'd have joined the Federation, been pardoned for her crimes, had her family kept safe and not have to live as pirates. But because it was Jamitov who got the communication, he used her to essentially make a situation where he could grab the power to create the titans. I'd love to recruit her, whenever I recruit her in Gihren's Ambition I put her in a GP-04 and stick her with Kou.
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Onmi posted:it's the mindset of loyalty to the collective over loyalty to the self or morality. It's mindless and stupid completely, 100% hypocritical. But it's a mindset that's thick in Japanese society, You are loyal to the company and your superiors and you'll work yourself to the bone and forgo sleep and family and everything. If you were Japanese and you decided "I don't have to go home after my bosses, I don't need to stay 7 hours after work and not be with my family and devote myself to the project. I need to care about me and make sure I'm living a healthy, happy life and care for those in my life." Then you are seen as overly selfish and betraying the company. Yeah, I get it, I minored in Japanese in college, it's just, Christ, I hate being reminded of that poo poo. And it just seems so cruel that so much of their youth-focused media is pretty strongly individualistic these days, like a promise everyone knows won't be kept. Like, One Piece is still one of, if not the, most popular anime/manga in the country, and the whole thing is openly disdainful of conformity. You gotta imagine there are kids who ask their parents to square that with how Japanese culture works, and what do you say then? I mean, entire books have been written on the various social ills caused by the dissonance, so I guess it's kind of rhetorical, but still. But hey! Uh, about Diaochen Qubeley, be sure to keep Endorph's post about the character in mind until later, there'll be a pretty clear hint about which version of her story the creators of SD Sangokuden read.
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Brunom1 posted:Denton apologizes for imposing on Leica, but we really had no other options… but, of course, the nun welcomes them all. It’s the duty of the church to help those in need, after all. “OH! Such enormous kindness, it’s like I’m looking at an actual angel!” Richard cries. “Actually, I’m certain of it: you must be an angel given form!”
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EclecticTastes posted:Yeah, I get it, I minored in Japanese in college, it's just, Christ, I hate being reminded of that poo poo. And it just seems so cruel that so much of their youth-focused media is pretty strongly individualistic these days, like a promise everyone knows won't be kept. Like, One Piece is still one of, if not the, most popular anime/manga in the country, and the whole thing is openly disdainful of conformity. You gotta imagine there are kids who ask their parents to square that with how Japanese culture works, and what do you say then? I mean, entire books have been written on the various social ills caused by the dissonance, so I guess it's kind of rhetorical, but still.
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Endorph posted:Honestly, Cross Ange doesn't even have that many character deaths. There's a bunch at the start and then literally everyone lives through the entire show. Same with the horrible poo poo, it really only happens in the first few episodes. The body count is probably way lower than your average Gundam series. The way I was paced in V, the stuff with the protags family (and people of her kingdom) came at what seemed a later point in the series Again, first time I experienced it was in V, and the way it was paced and it ha dled stuff in there it just felt like a dowards spiral of edge and fanservice (hated the stuff with tusk, for example) Edit: cannot quote properly because my tablet sucks But was the zhan liao stuff where he basically became the boogeyman in wu a novel addition? It always amuses, the thought that parents would basically tell misbehaving children "behave or zhang liao will get you" I really need to get around to watching gundam 0080 Its the only UC show I have yet to watch outside of unicorn Arkanumzilong fucked around with this message at 12:14 on Jan 5, 2018 |
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Onmi posted:Because he's "Loyal" and like to me and you and our cultures, we see that and go "gently caress right off. She betrayed the villains." It's the same mindset that causes the whole "Fight honorably even in the face of nuclear armageddon, to give up after that makes you a COWARD!" mentality that pervades the Jingo nuts of Japan. Not for nothing but that attitude is pretty pervasive in America as well, especially post-9/11 America. It's more a human thing in general to prize loyalty to a faction above loyalty to oneself (which is usually seen as selfish), presumably since humans are basically pack animals. There's also one other thing about Cima: She killed the protagonist's mentor. Survival rates aren't great for characters who do that, recruitment rates are less-so.
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Ace of Aces posted:Not for nothing but that attitude is pretty pervasive in America as well, especially post-9/11 America. It's more a human thing in general to prize loyalty to a faction above loyalty to oneself (which is usually seen as selfish), presumably since humans are basically pack animals. There's also one other thing about Cima: To be fair she didn't kill Burning on purpose and I don't think I've actually SEEN an SRW that kills Burning.
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Urgh, after everything that's been said, I'm hoping we don't get 0083 in any other SRW, because it'd sooner give you Jamitov and Bask as playable characters, if getting Yazan in V is anything to go by. Say what you will about Jamitov and Bask, at least they were loyal!
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The idea that they take loyalty into account to choose characters is pretty hilarious when you remember Original Generation, where characters betray their side and join you so often that the game itself recognizes it and jokes about it. In the first game. Popularity sure is a weird thing.
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Endorph posted:Lu Bu was said to be a very strong warrior and a talented archer historically, but obviously that doesn't really translate into being a good general. Can you do a write up on Hao Zhao and the battle of Chencang? Nothing to do with UX, just another tale of a few winning against a lot, and Hao Zhao was one of the 800. Inferno-sama posted:Yeah, that makes sense. It definitely feels like the sort of thing you'd expect from Japan. Not on any intentional level, but like you said, an acerbic, aggressive, ambitious woman with her own goals and agenda without a connection to a main character or even anything that would really make her stand out like Yazan "I'm gonna violate you" Gable would probably get passed over. For pretty much this reason I think it would take 0083 and 08th MS being in the same game (again, but A kind of half assed UC in general) for Cima being recruitable to be even be possible. Does anyone know if Cima and Shiro Amada had any conversations in A?
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Jegan posted:For pretty much this reason I think it would take 0083 and 08th MS being in the same game (again, but A kind of half assed UC in general) for Cima being recruitable to be even be possible. Does anyone know if Cima and Shiro Amada had any conversations in A? I don't think they even saw each other, since the Ez-8 isn't good for space and Cima stays in space. Then again, I might be wrong. I know they didn't see each other in the first half, since you don't meet Cima until the first (or second, if you count Real/Super) route split, with Cima being an enemy in space while Shiro is on Earth.
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Yazan supposedly chilled out later in his life in some manga or another, so that might be where they got the idea to make him recruitable from. I don't think Cima had a conversation with Shiro in A judging from the (not so good) translated script - perhaps that particular connection hasn't been invented in the Gihren's Greed games yet but I'm feeling kinda lazy to go look up release dates plus I don't think SRW has really derived from the Gundam videogames that much. As far as I can tell, she gets progressively less text as the game goes on - she also betrays Delaz to Giganos instead of the Federation, which is a lot less sympathetic but maybe it had to be done to make the Stardust Memory team look less like assholes for killing her.
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Blaze Dragon posted:The idea that they take loyalty into account to choose characters is pretty hilarious when you remember Original Generation, where characters betray their side and join you so often that the game itself recognizes it and jokes about it. I'm not gonna comment on the whole loyalty culture thing because there's probably some bullshit there, but all the OG characters that join you from the bad guy side were largely protagonist options in earlier, 'proper' SRWs that got assigned to that side in the OGverse to make some plot. Elzam, I think, is the only exception because he was invented for OG. It's not until OGs2 where this starts spiraling in a crazy way, but even then that's just follow-up from the whole "second-to-last boss joins you for last stage based on secret," e.g. Ingram, Shu, Mekibos, Alfimi. Because if you have a game set after that last stage, why not carry over the last-stage recruit? And hey, even those characters are already set up to be either the good people in a bad organization or more self-interested than an actual villain, so that it makes sense when they flip. Mister Olympus fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Jan 5, 2018 |
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I forgot to mention this gem of a line from Aquote:[Gerbera Tetra explodes]
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Inferno-sama posted:Urgh, after everything that's been said, I'm hoping we don't get 0083 in any other SRW, because it'd sooner give you Jamitov and Bask as playable characters, if getting Yazan in V is anything to go by. Say what you will about Jamitov and Bask, at least they were loyal! Considering the themes they were going for with that part of the game, Yazan was actually a pretty good choice for a recruitable.
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# ? Jan 6, 2018 02:22 |
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Ah yes, of course they're just humans. I half expect this to be plot relevant later. I also half expect it to be never brought up again.
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# ? Jan 6, 2018 02:52 |
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That's what I was hinting at earlier. I love that the answer to "so what's the deal with those Gundams?" is "they're just some dudes."
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# ? Jan 6, 2018 04:57 |
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Dynasty Warriors Gundam! The only way this would be better is if there also were Samurai Warriors Gundam, like a Nobunaga Sazabi or something. MonsieurChoc fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Jan 6, 2018 |
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MonsieurChoc posted:Dynasty Warriors Gundam! Zaku II Hideyoshi With increasingly more powerful packs. Nu Gundam Ieyasu
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MonsieurChoc posted:Dynasty Warriors Gundam! Nono, this is Gundam Dynasty Warriors. Dynasty Warriors Gundam is its own separate video game series.
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# ? Jan 6, 2018 07:59 |
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Zaku II Hideyoshi Wouldn't Nu Gundam be more Mitsuhide? If anything, a better parallel might be to take a more controversial-in-modern-times sympathetic take on Nobunaga and do Nu Gundam Nobunaga slain in conflict with Hyaku Shiki Mitsuhide (in armor that looks like the Sazabi), followed by Hideyoshi Unicorn and V2 Ieyasu (or the F91 could replace either). Or, get really meta, and go Nu Gundam Nobunaga, God Gundam Hideyoshi, Wing Zero Ieyasu, representing the significant difference between the three men by having each represent an entirely different Gundam timeline.
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# ? Jan 6, 2018 08:42 |
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Couple of typos.Brunom1 posted:[b]Back to JUDA, Ogawa’s just reported on a directed the Japanese government sent. That should be "directive." Brunom1 posted:Here’re of convos we missed today: Here are the. Onmi posted:spoiler Have you read the plot summary for ZZ:ANT? The ending reveal with Char and Haman is great. https://www.gundamforums.com/showthread.php/466-ZZ-Gundam-A-New-Translation HitTheTargets posted:I'm still pulling for a heroic Zeon line-up including 0080, Thunderbolt, and CDA. Maybe use the MSG novels so Char can get a Gundam. Char does not get a Gundam in the novels. The Char Aznable Custom Gundam comes from Gihren's Greed. Although Kycilia shoots Gihren in the dick from the palm of Char's Rick Dom, and then Char rotates the wrist of his MS and let's her fall to her death.
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# ? Jan 6, 2018 09:48 |
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General Revil posted:Couple of typos. I did not, and frankly, I don't really like what I'm reading,
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One thing I forgot to note is that you get the scene with Saya and Arnie right after choosing the space route. It’s pretty much the same, only shorter: Arnie freaks out over them being joining up with former enemies of the world Celestial Being, Saya asks what he’s going to do (no paraphrasing Yajima’s soon-to-be-spoken words to Kouichi) and Arnie ponders that. Next, we find the Elshank having already left Earth’s orbit and the Celestial Being are already on the move. Rennie points out the Orbital Ring around the planet and Tsubasa explains that it’s essentially a giant solar panel array, which disperses the created energy through the three Orbital Elevators on the surface. The sight is still as impressive to Mike as it was the first time he saw it – to think human hands could build something like that. It’s already been a full two centuries since WWII, and humanity has long since abandoned fossil fuels, turning their gaze to new energy sources – as Scarlet notes, the Orbital Ring and Elevators represent a culmination, but hardly the end, of that research. All is not roses, though, as while the whole system is great, those who control said system have, in turn, gained even greater power and wealth in contrast to the rest of the world. To say nothing of all the times conflict has erupted as nations vied to control it themselves. Quite ironic for something created in order to bring humanity a better future, and, to Richard, it showcases both the greatness and stupidity inherent to humans. Speaking of energies, the Elshank’s running on fumes as its stocks of kylhasium diminish further and further. If this doesn’t change soon, Ylbora fears the ship’ll be stranded. They need to get some more, Romina knows, but the problem is that it takes some very advanced tech to refine the fuel and Gameran isn’t sure Earth is at that stage. Joe is confident, though: Earth made something as awesome as that Orbital system thing, so of course they got the tech and the brainpower to pull that off. Getting their hands on some new fuel should be way easier than finding that legendary ninja. Romina hopes so. Now, with that done, Joe turns to Richard and asks what they’ll be doing. : Before we get to that, there’s someone I’d like to introduce to you guys. : Someone…? : Come on in, Ensign Berge. *Door opens.* : … : ?! H-He’s…! : He’s that Federation pilot Richard captured, right…? : I think so, yeah… : Ensign Berge’ll be working together the UX starting today. : Huuh?! Yo, pops, are you serious?! : We here risking our lives on this mission, remember?! This guy’s got no idea what he wants – he’s gonna do nothing but drag us down! : … : Oh, don’t be like that. He’s given this a lot of thought. : So you say, but… : If you can’t bring yourself to trust me, then feel free to shoot me down. : What…? : But, if possible… I’d like to go and see for myself what Maj. Richard and Saya are trying to do. I’d like to find out what is truly right… that’s what brought me here. : … : What is truly right… : (Ensign Berge…) Cut to the C-Terahertz, Grathan isn’t actually familiar with that mysterious fleet. That said, considering how suddenly they appeared in the Earth Sphere, he’s pretty sure they’ve Warp capabilities like The Boom Army has. Which means, Hazard deduces, that their military might will likely also be significant. Indeed, and that would make it a problem for them if said fleet were to ally itself with the Earthlings. Then the path is clear to Hazard: they must make sure the goodwill ambassador never reaches her destination. Grathan sees that he has a plan, and, indeed, he does. Hazard turns to Dog and preparations are already in order – the operation can begin on his command. Inwardly, though, the slimeball has plans: “a fleet with technology to rival even The Boom Army… If I play my cards right, they could be my ace in the hole against both the Federation and The Boom…” Now, over by the Federation’s shuttle, Shirin reports to Marina that they’re twelve hours away from the fleet; and while Marina COULD sleep until then, she wants to review some of the information they have in anticipation to the meeting. After a moment of silence, Shirin asks: is Marina fine with getting involved in this? While she’s glad Marina was appointed as the goodwill ambassador, she’s still worried. What does Shirin mean by that? Well, is Marina familiar with the Elshank? She’s heard that the ships in cahoots with Martian terrorists and seeking to invade Earth. That’s the official story, but Shirin, of course, doesn’t buy it. Rather, what she sees are the schemes of the director of the Martian Development Bureau to try and seize the ship’s technology and armaments for himself. Does she think the same will happen with the outer space fleet, Marina asks. She does, especially in face of said fleet being advanced enough that it can traverse the galaxy. And the greedy eyes set upon it aren’t limited to just Hazard’s: the Union, the AEU, the HRL and more are all very much interested in getting their hands on it… and they’ll do ANYTHING to succeed. As such, Shirin worries that Marina might get caught in the crossfire and hurt. A dark cloud sets on the ambassador’s face, and she wonders what the Federation was created for. So much blood was spilled and, at the end of it all, peace had returned to Earth; but, underneath, nothing has changed. It’s still the same power struggle with the various nations as before. “People don’t change that easily – unfortunately,” Shirin sighs. “And that is precisely why I want to serve as a guide for them. To help them find a way to change for the better,” Marina counters. “It’s my firm belief that, in time, said people will all be capable of talking and understanding one another.” But never mind that, the shuttle’s captain gets on the mic and warns that they’re pinging unknown MSs on approach. “Please fasten your seat belts,” he says… right before the shuttle starts getting blasted. Shirin feared this would happen. Mission 7 (Celestial Being Route) – The Trailblazer The Shuttle’s captain has no idea why they’re shooting – don’t they know there’s an ambassador from the Federation aboard? A mysterious man figures they’re likely AFTER said ambassador. Causing an international accident doesn’t seem to be the attackers’ concern. Right as the terrorists prepare to shoot again, the man takes the flight wheel and manages to evade the incoming shots: “‘I have control’!” Shinichiro Miki proclaims, in his best Latooni impression. And with that done, all that’s left is... : Wh-What?! Where’d that shot come from…?! SRW UX - Envoy from Jupiter : … : ?! It’s a Gundam…?! : Ah, right on time as always. : 00 Raiser, Setsuna F. Seiei… engaging! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSfd1bxL7pY : I-It’s too strong… This is how one of the Gundams that changed the world is like?! : Is that… Celestial Being?! ** : Easy there. No sudden moves. : …?! : Y-You’re…! : Nothing personal, but we’re not letting you ladies meet up with that fleet. : Kch! How can you…! : And… will doing this bring you happiness? : Wh-What?! : If you kill me, will you and your family— : Sh-Shut your mouth! *Bang!* : …?! : Marina…! : R-Rrgh…! : Whew, barely made it. : Your attack’s a no-go, so you decided to try some old school assassination? What a dedicated bunch we got here… : Thank you for saving us, Mr…? : Oh, I’m no one important. Take care, miss. : W-Wait…! *He doesn’t.* : (That man… I saw him during the Katharon days, I’m sure of it… He’s call-sign Gene-1!) : (Celestial Being… Even now they’re still fighting against the world…) : Lockon, I’ve brought your partner along. : Thanks much, Setsuna. : Aah… feels good to be back. : Gundam Dynames, Lockon Stratos… Sniping the targets! : Ack—! Captain, another Gundam…! : Settle down! Our backup’ll be here soon! Just hold on until then! : Federation shuttle, do you read me? We’ll deal with the enemy. Leave this area right away. : C-Copy that! : Okay, Mr. Terrorists… you better start bracing yourselves! : Attack! Attack! Kill everything, don’t lose anyone. And this is a pretty straightforward mission, especially compared to the other side (the actually fun side). You’ve got just a bunch of generics up against two Gundams, so head on in and start cutting them down. Start using Focus with Setsuna and the goons start converging, as evasion decay will start piling up. Gundam 00 Raiser (Setsuna F. Seiei) Pilot Skills: Innovator (イノベイター) – activates at 130 morale, increasing accuracy, evasion and the odds of triggering a later ability. Support Attack L1 Support Defense L1 Counter All Attack Spirit Commands: Focus Sense Mech Features: Sword Gun GN Field Trans-AM Trans-AM Burst – usable over 140 morale, costs 80 EN. Hits everyone in a 1-7 range; enemies get all stats debuffed by 20, allies get all stats upped by 20. The effect stacks. Squad Bonus: Melee weapons’ attack +100, Crit rate +10 (Melee power +200, Crit +20, S in Space) Setsuna’s voice actor: Mamoru Miyano (other roles: Flynn in Tales of Vesperia, Light Yagami in Death Note, Takuto Tsunashi in Star Driver and many more) As your typical Gundam protag, Setsuna is of course good. Not a powerhouse, but certainly a higher tier unit. He’s also soooo uninteresting in his movie incarnation, so forgive my lack of excitement. But, hey, at least we can use his Trans-AM Burst to really give us the edge in a battle. The ability to place a 40 point difference between our guys’ stats and the enemies’ is certainly nothing to sneeze at, especially as the game progresses. Also, Setsuna’s kill count is tied to a secret – he needs to have 150+ by the end of mission 47. Gundam Dynames Repair (Lockon Stratos) Pilot Skills: Support Attack L1 Support Defense L1 All Attack Hit & Away Gunfight (ガンファイト) – same as Infight, but for ranged attacks Spirit Commands – Lockon: Invincible Strike Spirit Commands – Haro: Scan Focus Mech Features: Gun GN Field Trans-AM Squad Bonus: Ranged weapons’ attack +100, Accuracy +5 (Ranged power +200, Accuracy +20, Range +2) Lockon’s voice actor: Shinichiro Miki (other roles: Ryusei in OGs and Alpha, Aoyama in Dai-Guard, Fighter Roa in Grandread and a ton more) Take everything I said about Setsuna, only apply it to a sniper unit – only a step weaker. Still good, especially for ranged-focus guys, and having a free support subpilot is always nice. Mind you, Lockon ain’t the dodgiest guy around and the Dynames can’t take much of a pummeling either, so he’s very much meant to be hanging back. His weapon ranges are very nice, at least. Let’s wrap this up quick so we can get back to the other route. : What you’re doing will only assure that the world never changes. There’s nothing to be gained from this battle, so I’ll end it with my Gundam and all its power! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzEMOxAqE0I : I can snipe down a target all the way across the stratosphere! That’s who I am… and you better remember it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxHKcd15RvY : Hrm… They really are as strong as advertised! But if our backup would just get here, we…! : Ah-ha, there they are! And now— : Wh-Whaaaat?! SRW UX - A Bird’s Song : Sorry, your backup’s been dealt with. (Eida) : We had your whole plan figured out for a long while now! : Th-That’s impossible! Our operation couldn’t have been leaked…! : It didn’t, but that doesn’t mean much when it’s so predictable. : Hahah... Always got that keen eye for reading the enemy, eh? : We’ve already received confirmation that the ambassador’s shuttle has left the area in one piece. : All troops, engage and destroy the remaining enemies ASAP. : Roger. : And we, the UX, will help you all the way through, Celestial Being! : Time to jump into the fray, R-Daigun! R-Daigun (Eida Rossa) Pilot Skills: Prevail L2 Support Attack L1 Support Defense L1 Predict Spirit Commands: Sense Accelerate Assail Mech Features: Sword Gun Resupply Module Stealth – another mirror image effect. Maximum activation rate is 35%. Squad Bonus: Mobility +5, EN +50, A in Air (Mobility +20, EN +100, S in Air) Eida’s Voice actress: Yuko Goto (other roles: Anya in Code Geass, Mikuru Asahina in Melancholy of Haruhi, Junko in Madoka Magica and plenty more) Now how’s this for an early entrance? The R-Daigun is from Dancouga Nova, and it carries the usual characteristics of its ilk: it has decent firepower but lags a bit behind in terms of defenses. Her evasion can be surprisingly high for a Super Robot, especially with that S rank, but you should still be careful when using her – just in case. Eida’s stats are a bit “eh” but her bot makes up for it some. Either way, you’ll likely want to use her for other reasons. Ptolemaios #2 Custom (Sumeragi Lee Noriega, Feldt Grace, Mileina Vashti, Lasse Aeon) Pilot Skills: Support Attack L1 Support Defense L1 All Attack Command L1 Spirit Commands – Sumeragi: Alert Trust Spirit Commands – Lasse: Vigor Strike Accelerate Spirit Commands – Feldt: Focus Gain Spirit Commands – Mileina: Scan Cheer Mech Features: Repair Module GN Field Trans-AM Squad Bonus: Ranged weapons attack +100, EN +50 (Ranged attacks +200, EN +100, Spec Down Debuff Immunity, Movement +1) Sumeragi’s voice actress: Youko Honna (other roles: Nagisa Misumi in Precure, Lalaco in Space Patrol Luluco and some more) Feldt’s voice actress: Ayahi Takagaki (other roles: Chris Yukine in Symphogear, Manny in Reconquista in G, and many more) Mileina’s voice actress: Haruka Tomatsu (other roles: Hyou Matsuri in Star Driver, Micott in Unicorn Gundam and many more) Lasse’s voice actor: Hiroki Touchi (other roles: Daguza in Unicorn, Nathan Drake in Uncharted, and many more) Same deal with the Elshank, really, only with even more pilots and slightly stronger weapons, in exchange for only its weakest being post-movement and lower stats overall. Not the best at attacking, but its strongest attack DOES ignore size difference, so it won’t take that big of a accuracy hit there. Sumeragi, as a pilot, is down there with Romina, but the bevy of subpilots will help her hit and stay alive. It’s still one of your few ships in this game, so you’ll have to make do with it. Hit & Away could help Sumeragi keep up with the team and still blast stuff. Carrying on, we just need to kill the few weakened survivors. : The Red Dancouga… You’re also still up and about?! : “Still”...? Sorry to tell you, but I keep a very clean face - no scandals or anything to ever push me into retiring! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FditS_xjJxk SRW UX - Envoy from Jupiter : And it looks like we’re done, Setsuna. : No, there’re still more… Oh, sure, just drop them right on top of us. Real cute. : Those units…! I think they’re from that group intel mentioned - The Boom Army! : Only the official story is that they’re Mars-developed Fed mobile weapons… : But Eida’s correct. Those are the alien forces that chased the Elshank all the way to Earth! : “Aliens”? What’re aliens doing in cahoots with a bunch of terrorists?! : We can discuss this later. The main problem now is that we’re very outnumbered. What’s our approach? : Oh, don’t worry about that. Everything’s well within expectations. : What…? : That’s…! : We’ve a data match. Those are friendlies, being led by the Unknown Xtrikers! : Good to see you here, Maj. Richard! : Sorry to keep you waiting, Eida. Your schedule wasn’t hurt too bad, yes? I know we called you in a hurry. : I knew what I was signing up for when I joined the UX. The mission is more important than my regular job! : (A Red Dancouga… That’s the R-Daigun, right?) : (Didn’t expect that mech to also be in with the UX…) : Major, that’s the Elshank and its forces with you, right? : It is, yeah. Contrary to what the Fed’s garbage announcement said, they’re actually 100% on our side. : A pleasure to meet you, fellows of the Celestial Being. We are also here to assist you in any way possible. : How’s your handling of the Wingle, Lt. Yuki? : I’m managing it somewhat, thanks to your data… : But do you really think I’m suited to work as a pilot? : We’ll need your strength when the time comes for that Op. Meaning you’ve to learn how to handle yourself in battle ASAP. : Yes, ma’am. I’ll do my best, ma’am! : (And it’s not just the Red Dancouga… The Celestial Being and their Gundams, the alien machines, even the WSO…) : (Why are they all so willing to work together with an alleged outlaw organization like the UX…?) : Ensign Berge, please refrain from mulling during a mission. : I-I know. I made a decision to be here, so I don’t want to be a hindrance for anyone. : Put your money where your mouth is, then! Show us how committed you are! : Mind if I hand you operational command, Sumeragi? : Copy that. All troops, shift your targets to The Boom Army and wipe them out! : Setsuna F. Seiei, roger! SRW UX - Future-Bound Fighting Spirit : The Boom Army is backing up an Anti-Federation terrorist group...?! What’s going on here?! SRW UX - Shadows that Rend Darkness : Why is The Boom Army assisting with a terrorist assassination plot…? : Does that mean their targets include not just Princess Romina, but Princess Marina as well…? SRW UX - Envoy from Jupiter : Enemy unit detected engaging us from vector 138! : Heh… They better not be thinking the Ptolemy’s your average Gundam carrier or they’re in for a surprise! : Right, so let’s go and give it to them! GN Field, deployed! : Ptolemy, battle stations! We can at least weather this storm! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaHiM0DDutY Hell, no – we’re going for the kill! Fire everything! SRW UX - Love Survivor SRW UX - The Eternal Soldiers : That’s a bunch of alien drones you’re up against, Lt. Yuki! Hold nothing back! Kick their asses! : “Kick their…”? R-Roger! Tsubasa Yuki, engaging! SRW UX - Love Survivor : I’m really getting sick of finding another swarm of your mooks every goddamn day, Boom Army! But just give us a sec and we’ll shred this one too! SRW UX - Shadows that Rend Darkness : She even anticipated the arrival of all the enemy groups… : The lady’s reputation as one of the best strategists in the biz is very well deserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku7-4vOzDug And here’s Setsuna’s best move just because. : No signals left on radar. The enemy has been wiped out, it seems. : Then we managed to stop their assassination. All troops, back to your ships. : Sure you don’t wanna say hi to Princess Marina or anything, Setsuna? : I don’t see the need for it. : Ah, of course, of course. : (Yeesh, the kid’s dumb as bricks. What about all them Innovator powers, huh…?) Aaand Klaus brings news that the UX just got framed for the attack on Marina’s shuttle, courtesy of the Martian Peacekeeping Forces recording us, the Celestial Being and the Elshank all fighting together against them. Shirin calls bull, saying they’ve one of the attacking terrorists in custody right now. Klaus doubts that’ll make any difference, as he’s rather certain the whole terrorist group was secretly backed by Hazard’s Martian Development Bureau, with all the enormous influence it holds with the Federation government and beyond. They’ll make sure this goes the way they want. With a warning for Shirin to watch herself out there, he signs off. In the meantime, Marina’s talking with the captured terrorist and he says no one ordered them to attack her at all – rather, they did so of their own volition. Trying to have talks with a bunch of unknown, suspicious aliens is UNFORGIVABLE. Marina argues that they’re doing so in order to try and avoid unnecessary conflict. It is by seeking mutual understanding that we may find prosperity for both us and them. Counterpoint: the Skrugg killed the terrorist’s family and he is not even going to entertain the idea of talking with aliens. As Marina pouts, Shirin asks where they got the intel on the aliens, the shuttle and everything? It was Hazard’s group that gave it to them, wasn’t it? In other words, Shirin says, he and his fellows were all just pawns in the guy’s schemes. Marina and the terrorist don’t understand, so Shirin will explain. Whether the attack on their shuttle succeeded or not, it’d be a major terrorist act. However things played out, it’ll still enable the Martian Peacekeeping Forces to further increase their activities under the pretext of suppressing terrorist groups. What stories were the terrorists led to believe? That Marina was going to capitulate to the aliens, sell Earth out to them, perhaps? Whatever the case, Shirin isn’t about to let Hazard have everything his way – she will find a way to turn the tables on him. Back at the Ptolemaios, Feldt greets Setsuna and Lockon with drinks, but the boy says he’s doesn’t need any and asks for Sumeragi. While Lockon shakes his head, Mileina says she went to the Elshank and Lasse relays the news that the UX got framed for the attack. Joe is not happy to be tarred as a villain in this story, but it’s not like the UX and allies – what with all of them being outlaw groups – can make official announcements refuting these claims. If we try, it’ll only be spun against us. Damian sees Hazard’s grubby fingers all over this, and Rennie’s dejected that the Celestial Being got their named dragged in the mud as well. Of course, they’re used to being public enemies ever since they started their campaign seven years ago. Arnie looks back at how long it’s been since Aeolia Schenberg first made his declaration of war to the entire world; yet, despite the creation of the Federation, the Celestial Being still haven’t succeeded in eradicating conflict. Tsubasa walks over right then, now having a chance to see Eida’s face. Isn’t she one of Japan’s most popular singers? Is that a problem? Not at all, but she can’t help but be surprised that she lives a double life as a merc pilot! Arnie is surprised as well: first a couple of classical actors, then a singer… Imagine the collective gasp if the rest of the world ever caught wind of how the pilots of UX are actually like. Eida doesn’t know of any actors here, and Saya whispers to her that, thanks to Richard’s stunt, Arnie serious believes their regular job is as actors. “It’s said that people aren’t always what they seem...” Arnie ponders quietly, “Does her agency and manager know about this other side of her?” Speak of the devil, we cut to Johnny (with the glasses) who sighs that Eida called off ANOTHER gig and ran off elsewhere. Vladimir tells him she’s just taking some time off to relax and that she’ll be back soon. The problem is that Eida’s finally made it to the top, and if she doesn’t commit to it, she’ll soon find work drying up. Oh, it’s fine, just put a little pressure on the clients and get them to play ball. Inwardly, though, Validimir apologizes to the frustrated Johnny: much as she wants to, she can’t tell him the truth about Eida now that he’s lost the memories of his days with Team D. : drat it, this pisses me off! It took forever for us to get to Earth and now we’re all wanted men again?! : Wanted men… Had I stayed with the army, I… : Yeah, Ensign Berge! Turns out you’re a real sucker too! : You let pops there get inside your head and now you’ve gone from a hotshot Fed soldier to a bigtime criminal! : H-Hey, Joe! : Hahah… I can’t really deny it when you put it like that. : Still, I don’t regret the choices I’ve made… because I’m finally fighting the way I always wanted. : “The way you wanted”? : I joined the army because I wanted to protect the lives of others… But my idealized vision and reality were two completely different things. I was never really sure about what I was doing. : Still, there’s one thing I did figure out: there’re some people in this world I could never tolerate! : Arnie… : So you can call me a sucker and laugh right at my face, that’s fine. All that I want to do… is to protect the lives of others from those that are too evil to be left alone! : Hmhmm, well said. Looks like he’s made of better stuff than you gave him credit for, Joe. : Qu-Quiet, you! : But… if that’s the way you think, I reckon we can carry on fighting together. : Joe…! : I got a real good look at what you’re all about – how committed you are. : Guess now it’s mine and the others’ turn to do the same, right, Arnie? : Thank you, Joe…! : Alright, now that the bonding’s all taken care of, how about we move on to our next mission? : Saya, Eida, I’m gonna need you girls to do a bit of infiltration for this one. : Infiltration? Us…? : Right. And, if possible, I’d also like to ask Lt. Yuki and Rennie to help… : That’s no problem, but… : Where are we infiltrating, exactly? : That’d be that giant fleet from outer space… the Macross Frontier Fleet. Location: Frontier Fleet – SMS Hangar : (There’s no up or down in space. All you do in there is float…) : (But what I want is to fly in a real sky – to fly even as I’m constantly being pulled down to earth…) : I’ll say it again. You never know what might happen out in space. Danger can turn up at the drop of a hat. Are you ready for that? : Of course… I-I mean, yes, I am, Maj. Ozma! : Look at how nervous the nugget is. (Monica) : He was famous at the kabuki theater scene as a brilliant Onnagata, right? You can certainly see it in his stance, the way he presents himself – everything, really. (Lam; and Onnagata is a role in kabuki plays where a man plays a woman.) : Hmhmhm, he’s kind of… (Mina) : Hoooot! (Bobby) : I am Alto Saotome, second year student at Mihoshi Academy’s pilot training school... : And, today, I take a vow to serve as part of the SMS! : Hmph… alright, then. As of this moment, you are officially enlisted into the SMS, maggot! : Yes, sir! : (That’s right, I will fly… even if my sky is one of battle…) Frontier Fleet – Griffith Park, Hill : (Alto should be having his “welcome aboard” party right about now…) : (I’m glad his dream of flying in a real sky is slowly being fulfilled…) : (And if he can fly, could I do the same…?) : (Could I fulfill my dream of being a singer…? Of being able to lift everyone’s spirits with my song, just like Sheryl Nome does.) : … SRW L - Aimo Surprisingly, UX does NOT have Aimo as a BGM! Doesn’t mean you’re going to be safe from it, though! : Aimo, aimo… ♪ Brunom1 fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Jul 15, 2018 |
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