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I saw TLJ. I left feeling underwhelmed, while my wife loved it. I suspect being a giant Star Wars nerd dampened things down for me and prevented me from really enjoying the escapism. Most of it were either plot holes or really odd contrivances (like the bomb-dropping button at the top of the ladder). To be honest the story itself didn't really resonate with me. I thought the stuff with Skywalker's history with Kylo Ren was good, and I really enjoyed the way Kylo Ren killed Snoke, but overall it felt a bit too long and dragged on. They could have deleted the entire gambling planet and I don't feel anything would have been lost. Probably the biggest example of how terrible I am at enjoying new Star Wars movies was in the suicide run scene[/url]. I loved the cinematography and thought the combination of epic visuals and [spoiler]complete silence was amazing, but the fact that they did it at all really bothered me. I mean if you can turn your ship into a superluminal kinetic energy weapon just by turning in the hyperdrive then why not do it all the time? I imagine if I saw it again and just accepted that the things I didn't like were things I'm not going to like and instead focused on the story I probably would enjoy it more. I agree that Rogue One was more enjoyable.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Maz is Impa His name is Gwonam.
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Jan 6, 2018 05:02
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RBA Starblade posted:Also the bird things look like my cat somehow Sounds as though TLJ marketing didn't do its job well enough
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Jan 6, 2018 05:07
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Tenzarin posted:So its just another lame movie trope I guess.
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Jan 6, 2018 05:19
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Lord Hydronium posted:Star Wars referencing other movies? Well I never! The First Order is actually SMERSH.
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Jan 6, 2018 05:24
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Anakin coming back to Tatooine to free all the slaves after obtaining his Jedi training would have been a cool plot thread to explore.
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Jan 6, 2018 05:33
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Blue Star posted:I just think clarity is important too, and is the situation all that clear? Like, why is the Trade Federation blockading Naboo, exactly? What treaty do they want Padme to sign, and what for? Maybe there's a reason that i missed, and maybe it's SUPPOSED to be opaque. I don't know. The Trade Federation is the corporation-planet that delivers food to Naboo, since Naboo’s a resort-planet (built around a lucrative mining facility) with no real agriculture. Naboo substantially raised the taxes it charges on imports, confident that the Jedi would step in and force the T-Feds to pay. (This is glossed over to downplay the fact that Naboo is the aggressor in the conflict, since the story is told from the Jedi point of view.) Nobody expected the T-Feds to stand their ground, but they did. The treaty they’re pushing would end the war (and the blockade) by granting the T-Feds legal ownership of the planet. The point is that Amidala is stuck between giving up control of the planet right away, or watching people slowly starve while waiting for the Republic to step in.
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Jan 6, 2018 05:37
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I saw TLJ. I left feeling underwhelmed, while my wife loved it. I suspect being a giant Star Wars nerd dampened things down for me and prevented me from really enjoying the escapism. Most of it were either plot holes or really odd contrivances (like the bomb-dropping button at the top of the ladder). To be honest the story itself didn't really resonate with me. I thought the stuff with Skywalker's history with Kylo Ren was good, and I really enjoyed the way Kylo Ren killed Snoke, but overall it felt a bit too long and dragged on. They could have deleted the entire gambling planet and I don't feel anything would have been lost. Probably the biggest example of how terrible I am at enjoying new Star Wars movies was in the suicide run scene[/url]. I loved the cinematography and thought the combination of epic visuals and [spoiler]complete silence was amazing, but the fact that they did it at all really bothered me. I mean if you can turn your ship into a superluminal kinetic energy weapon just by turning in the hyperdrive then why not do it all the time? I saw it last night. It was a bad movie. I can't imagine why you think seeing it again would allow you to enjoy it more; the more I think about it, the worse I think of it. The plot was insulting drivel. I thought Adam Driver, Daisy Ridley, and John Boyega all had much stronger performances in Episode VII, which I was only a very mild fan of. I liked Mark Hamill, Benicio del Toro, and Oscar Isaac in this one. Other than them, it was basically forgettable trash.
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Jan 6, 2018 05:40
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teagone posted:Anakin coming back to Tatooine to free all the slaves after obtaining his Jedi training would have been a cool plot thread to explore. They explore it in as much as it's made clear that Jedi training precludes him from doing anything like that. When we see him in AotC he is shackled by rules and nagging. He has a full-time caretaker reeling him in. Travelling to Tatooine is one of the first things he does after getting free from Obi-Wan.
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Jan 6, 2018 06:07
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Leaked script draft from episode 9 Kylo: I am now as powerful as Darth Vader, but I have so many questions. You will take me to my mother and she WILL answer me. C-3P0: I do beg your pardon sir, but if I can assist you in any way, I will gladly tell you about Anakin Skywalker (Kylo snarls and lifts 3P0 up with the force) Kylo: What do you know of Darth Vader, Droid? C-3P0: So glad you asked, sir. I was in fact constructed by lord Anakin. I served his mother and later him. I officiated his wedding! Kylo: What? C-3P0: I do not have the capacity to lie, sir. Kylo: That's stupid. (the ghost of Yoda appears) Yoda: Stupid perhaps, but nonetheless true. Kylo: You're Yoda? You trained my uncle! Chewbacca: Hey I know that guy Yoda: Hello Chewbacca Kylo: Why would you know Yoda? Yoda: Know me he just does. Weird about it, nothing there is. Chewbacca: I never mentioned I knew the Jedi master? Kylo: No... Wait you traveled with my dad for years when he didn't even believe in the force but you know Yoda? Chewbacca: Yeah. Kylo: How loving old are you even? Chewbacca: shrug *editors note: translated from Wookiee
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Jan 6, 2018 06:32
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Leaked script draft from episode 9 Lol
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Jan 6, 2018 06:44
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It's possible that Chewbacca never saw Yoda do anything overtly magical
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Jan 6, 2018 07:08
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Chewbacca fought alongside Yoda and observed the power of Jedi Knights directly. Han didn't disbelieve that the Jedi had powers, though he did dismiss them as "a bunch of simple tricks and nonsense" and thought the training was hokey. Rather, he didn't believe in their religion. Specifically, he denied that any mystical energy field controlled his destiny.
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Jan 6, 2018 07:12
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C3PO had his mind erased after Episode 3, Anakin wasn’t a lord, C3PO lies frequently, nobody living knows that Yoda ran the Jedi kindergarten, space ghosts only appear to people who knew them, Yoda never cared whether what he said was true, and Han fully understood that Jedis were a thing - he simply didn’t believe that they were chosen by God. Also Chewbacca doesn’t give a gently caress.
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Jan 6, 2018 07:22
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:C3PO had his mind erased after Episode 3, Anakin wasn’t a lord, C3PO lies frequently, nobody living knows that Yoda ran the Jedi kindergarten, space ghosts only appear to people who knew them, Yoda never cared whether what he said was true, and Han fully understood that Jedis were a thing - he simply didn’t believe that they were chosen by God. Those episode 9 writers really need to get their canon straight.
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Jan 6, 2018 07:24
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JJ Abrams did say that Episode 9 will tie in all 8 movies together.
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Jan 6, 2018 07:35
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The MSJ posted:JJ Abrams did say that Episode 9 will tie in all 8 movies together. I'm looking forward to the return of Ki-Adi-Mundi. No one ever took his pulse to confirm he was dead.
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Jan 6, 2018 07:37
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I mean if you can urn your ship into a superluminal kinetic energy weapon just by turning in the hyperdrive then why not do it all the time? The movie gave me the impression that that isn't something you can just do willy nilly but that it takes some time to coordinate and set up just right to actually cause damage, otherwise you could end up with a less helpful situation when entering hyperspace like the Rebel ships popping into Vader's star destroyer and getting obliterated themselves in Rogue One. Also I do think the running retreat the rebellion was going through was a huge part of why it worked. Like if they were in battle the cruiser would have been gunned down easily long before it was able to actually pull off anything fancy. It seems like a shields/lasers in Dune situation where it's a very very very situational and chancy thing you typically wouldn't want to mess with or would even pop into one's mind because it's so stupid. Like the First Order crew does realize what's happening but it doesn't occur to them until it's too late, so it's not like the concept is unknown to them, just that it's not something someone would normally do ever.
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Jan 6, 2018 07:37
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The MSJ posted:JJ Abrams did say that Episode 9 will tie in all 8 movies together. I’m skeptical
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Episode IX will tie all 8 movies together by having C3PO in it
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He's the key to all this
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:1)C3PO had his mind erased after Episode 3, 2)Anakin wasn’t a lord, 1) So did R2 presumably, didn't seem to stick 2) butlers sometimed refer to little kids as Lord so and so 3) he lied about not being able to tell a lie 4) C3P0, Leia, Chewbacca, Lobot, and 4-Lom know 5) Where was this ever stated in the text of any of the films? 6) Yoda clearly didn't care much in this scene either 7) Did he though? 8) That's why he is taking like a stoner here
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Jan 6, 2018 07:53
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Al Borland Corp. posted:1) So did R2 presumably, didn't seem to stick *Nods harder and harder as I go through this post until by the end I'm jumping up and down headbanging*
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Jan 6, 2018 07:56
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Only C-3PO's mind was specifically wiped. Bail gave the two droids to Captain Antilles and instructed him to have the protocol droid's memory erased. The terminology that C-3PO uses is "Master," not "Lord." Although no ghost has ever appeared to someone who didn't know them in life, the dead have communicated with strangers in other means; Obi-Wan's voice was heard during Rey's vision when she touched Anakin's lightsaber.
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Jan 6, 2018 07:57
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IIRC C3PO had his memory returned when he heard the codeword "Alderaan" in Leia's message, but still retained his friendship and respect for Luke that he developed while amnesiac.
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Jan 6, 2018 07:59
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He got his memory back when he saw Vader on Bespin and made a will save
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Jan 6, 2018 08:10
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Who ever asks “if you could do a thing why couldn’t they do it all the time” is a huge idiot and shouldn’t be allowed to watch movies.
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Jan 6, 2018 09:29
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CelticPredator posted:Who ever asks “if you could do a thing why couldn’t they do it all the time” is a huge idiot and shouldn’t be allowed to watch movies. The "just switch your brain off" argument is evolving.
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Jan 6, 2018 09:45
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No, it’s not thinking. It’s just whining. “new idea? Disgusting. I will not stand for such things!”
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Jan 6, 2018 09:47
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But seriously I'm already enjoying watching people switch from It's Extremely Good That Rey Came From Nothing As It Subverts The Force to Actually, Ren Was Lying, We Don't Know She Is Rey Nobody.
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Jan 6, 2018 10:23
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CelticPredator posted:Who ever asks “if you could do a thing why couldn’t they do it all the time” is a huge idiot and shouldn’t be allowed to watch movies. Why didn’t the hobbits just ride the eagles? These movies suck.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I saw TLJ. I left feeling underwhelmed, while my wife loved it. I suspect being a giant Star Wars nerd dampened things down for me and prevented me from really enjoying the escapism. ....... They could have deleted the entire gambling planet and I don't feel anything would have been lost. I think this will be the biggest sticking point when I recommend this to my friends. finn and rose and Poe go with the stupidest and riskiest plan possible. The whole thing is a 45 minute waste of time. But I enjoyed the hell out of it. Watching stupid people fail can make good movie moments too. It’s not that “only stupid people would think this is good” but rather that we know it’s bad and we still enjoy it.
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It's not a waste of time though. It's a disaster. The culmination of their plot is the resistance being annihilated which wouldn't have happened if they handnt brought do along. It's much too long and the falthiers scene can go in the bin but it's an important bit thematically. As for the ram, word of God (Pablo) seems to be you need a huge ship to pull it of because magic space physics so it's not really a realistic option.
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Billzasilver posted:Why didn’t the hobbits just ride the eagles? These movies suck. Mordor had an air force. Those movies suck.
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sassassin posted:Mordor had an air force. Those movies suck. Pffft Mordor has a ground force too
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Billzasilver posted:Why didn’t the hobbits just ride the eagles? These movies suck. Eagles are assholes, worse than horses
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Wild Horses posted:Eagles are assholes, worse than horses oglaf_eagle_eating_hobbit.jpg 
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I saw TLJ. I left feeling underwhelmed, while my wife loved it. I suspect being a giant Star Wars nerd dampened things down for me and prevented me from really enjoying the escapism. Most of it were either plot holes or really odd contrivances (like the bomb-dropping button at the top of the ladder). To be honest the story itself didn't really resonate with me. I thought the stuff with Skywalker's history with Kylo Ren was good, and I really enjoyed the way Kylo Ren killed Snoke, but overall it felt a bit too long and dragged on. They could have deleted the entire gambling planet and I don't feel anything would have been lost. Probably the biggest example of how terrible I am at enjoying new Star Wars movies was in the suicide run scene[/url]. I loved the cinematography and thought the combination of epic visuals and [spoiler]complete silence was amazing, but the fact that they did it at all really bothered me. I mean if you can turn your ship into a superluminal kinetic energy weapon just by turning in the hyperdrive then why not do it all the time? Guessed 6/6 spoiler tags before even clicking on them. Only thing missing is the complaint about Mary Poppins. Star Wars fans are the worst.
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AndyElusive posted:Guessed 6/6 spoiler tags before even clicking on them. Did his complaints not subvert your expectations enough?
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The rest of the movie everyone thinks that it is incredibly weird. quote:Who ever asks “if you could do a thing why couldn’t they do it all the time” is a huge idiot and shouldn’t be allowed to watch movies. It's weird to me that people are asking why people don't just kill themselves to win fights regularly using the things they only have like one of. RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Jan 6, 2018 |
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