Norns posted:

Nando kicks rear end.

tuo posted:

Where do you see Sauber next season, with a current Ferrari engine and some money from the recent deal?

Or to rephrase that question: will Haas be last in WCC next year? (I can't imagine that Honda continues to bomb, and sinks Toro Rosso)

tuo posted:

Where do you see Sauber next season, with a current Ferrari engine and some money from the recent deal?

Or to rephrase that question: will Haas be last in WCC next year? (I can't imagine that Honda continues to bomb, and sinks Toro Rosso)

Dudley posted:

It depends if that money came early enough for Sauber to develop the car, and indeed how much money that Alfa deal is actually worth.

Haas have 2 experienced drivers too, wheras Sauber have a rookie and a garbage fire. Williams have also gone the rookie/garbage fire route but have a better engine and probably a better car.

Certainly I can't see Haas beating 8th, because there's no-one left I think they can beat.

tuo posted:

I guess the money won't influence the chassis that much because it should have been nearly finished by the time the deal was announced, but I hope they have a bit more money now for in-season development.

Regarding Haas: if the rumor is true that they will field a completely new car, it will be interesting to see how good their engineering department is. IIRC, this should be the first "true" Haas chassis without Dallara influence, shouldn't it?

1500quidporsche posted:

Sauber might beat Toro Rosso next year, I'd be outright shocked if they did more than that.

Wirth1000 posted:

Take the bet, 1500.

wicka posted:

I’ll bet you a tire Haas finishes last.

1500quidporsche posted:

Deal. Easiest tire I've ever gotten.

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

> 17-18 F1 Off-Season: assfucked by the giant dildo that is a Honda engine

wicka posted:

It’s gonna be a Lego tire

wicka posted:

I’m interested to see what design choices they make, if that’s actually the case. Dallara “designed” the VF16, but they used so many Ferrari components that it effectively dictated every dimension of the car.

wicka posted:

It�s gonna be a Lego tire

djssniper posted:

Out of a bin

wicka posted:

I didn’t say anything about a good car. Someone wrote an article two years ago listing the wheelbase, rake, etc. of all the 2016 chassis, and the Haas and Ferrari cars were the same. My point is that I’m curious to see what their design philosophy will be once they are given more freedom.

Wirth1000 posted:

wicka posted:

God, “freedom” was a terrible choice of words.

Wirth1000 posted:

I'm the twin towers on the rear wing end plates.

Wirth1000 posted:

wicka posted:

Holy poo poo I never noticed that

wicka posted:

I didn’t say anything about a good car. Someone wrote an article two years ago listing the wheelbase, rake, etc. of all the 2016 chassis, and the Haas and Ferrari cars were the same. My point is that I’m curious to see what their design philosophy will be once they are given more freedom.

Wirth1000 posted:

tuo posted:

Adrian Newey: I don't understand that car.

Wirth1000 posted:

Because he's not American and thus sane.

Wirth1000 posted:

Yeah, don't expect anything from Alonso at the stupid dumb American 24 hour event. He's in an noncompetitive slow poo poo out-of-the-top 10 car.

This is why for the good of motorsport we must introduce a spec modular engine for different series needs and spec chassis and aero parts for different classes. People come to see the driver win. They don't give a poo poo about cars or car parts. They want to see Alonso hoist the trophy and that's all that matters.

A tremendous amount of money is dumped into the motorsport industry and that's absolutely ludicrous. Who are these people? What good does it this give to society? None at loving hell. It's just pointless entertainment at a tremendous cost in terms of the environment and a loss of engineering talent which could be exerted in different sectors which matter in life and money that can be re-budgeted towards, say, cancer research or civil engineering for the future to accommodate for climate change. This bizarre, wasteful spending needs to stop. Mercedes' F1 team has something like over 700 staff. Doing what?! There's only TWO loving CARS ON THE TRACK !!!

Contract out an engineering firm, have them develop an engine and a car, and fire everyone else holy poo poo. The amount of money being saved there is ridiculous!

Wirth1000 posted:

Yeah, don't expect anything from Alonso at the stupid dumb American 24 hour event. He's in an noncompetitive slow poo poo out-of-the-top 10 car.

This is why for the good of motorsport we must introduce a spec modular engine for different series needs and spec chassis and aero parts for different classes. People come to see the driver win. They don't give a poo poo about cars or car parts. They want to see Alonso hoist the trophy and that's all that matters.

A tremendous amount of money is dumped into the motorsport industry and that's absolutely ludicrous. Who are these people? What good does it this give to society? None at loving hell. It's just pointless entertainment at a tremendous cost in terms of the environment and a loss of engineering talent which could be exerted in different sectors which matter in life and money that can be re-budgeted towards, say, cancer research or civil engineering for the future to accommodate for climate change. This bizarre, wasteful spending needs to stop. Mercedes' F1 team has something like over 700 staff. Doing what?! There's only TWO loving CARS ON THE TRACK !!!

Contract out an engineering firm, have them develop an engine and a car, and fire everyone else holy poo poo. The amount of money being saved there is ridiculous!

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