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Koalas March posted:Come the gently caress on. She's still a black woman who gets hosed up attacks leveled against her The issue I have with her is not her blackness or her gender. It’s that she doesn’t really stand for anything, is extremely wealthy and based on certain things that have happened at her show, can be manipulated. Id rather vote for a black panther than Oprah if you catch my drift. I believe that if she runs for president it’s because the billionaire class wants to use her popularity with the black community to placate them. Essentially I think there’s an entrenched group of elites in the democrat party who want to maintain the status quo and will use celebrity catchet and ethnicity to elect apolitical people who are easy to influence and also benefit from the status quo. I think from now on the only democrat nominee that can be trusted is one with a history of activism for the poor, working class and marginalized people. Oprah would certainly make for a great symbol and I’m sure the black community will rally around her. But I’m also sure the police will continue to brutalize and murder blacks under her watch while she smiles and nods from the presidential podium doing nothing but paying lip service to help them. Schumer, Pelosi and Feinstein would be the ones running the show behind the scenes with all the rich billionaire donors. Fundamentally you get nothing but oppression in a pretty package. I’m done with loving Uncle Tom presidents. Trump has stood up for literal Nazis as president with next to zero political consequences other than bad media press he’s managed to dismiss as fake news. The next president needs to harshly and unequivocally shame and condemn any police brutality against blacks and any extrajudicial killings. He/she also needs to make firm condemnation against the current justice system and how it unlawfully imprisons and enslaves blacks. Kraftwerk fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Jan 10, 2018 |
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white sauce posted:Omarossa is an evil person Yes, but that's because she has no soul, not because she is black or a woman. (I'm not implying you're implying that btw) it's just shocking how many folks think being rich af will save you from racism. It doesn't. Kraftwerk posted:The issue I have with her is not her blackness or her gender. this is legit tho, and pm how I feel
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i don't think operah would be a good president cause of her willingness to entertain nonsense like the secret and antivaxxers and guys like dr. oz. oh, and the fact she complains about being taxed too much and having to eventually pay the estate tax
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Jan 10, 2018 16:25
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https://twitter.com/amaxsmith/status/951103918435700737 Watch your back, 2020 field, or you're gonna get smacked by the T-Mac Attack
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Jan 10, 2018 16:26
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Koalas March posted:Lmao people have been talking about Oprah running for loving decades. Let it go until something concrete happens. I'm tired of having to defend her from bullshit attacks and random sourceless accusations. Unless she's paying you I don't think you "have" to do anything to defend a billionaire.
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white sauce posted:Billionaires don't need you to defend them I, too, am SHOCKED that the moderator of TGRS prioritizes race over class!
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HootTheOwl posted:I, too, am SHOCKED that the moderator of TGRS prioritizes race over class! I am indeed shocked that the woman who tried to scam a bunch of disadvantaged people out of money to buy herself a new gtx 1080 doesn't prioritize class.
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Jan 10, 2018 16:37
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instead of talking about that, let's talk about how I recently got to work with a woman who just became the first Hispanic mayor of a large mid-western city, and it was very cool to see her approach to diversity in business vs the woman I typically "work" with. anyway, I am very happy for her and it seems like she's going to do good things and be a voice for the under-represented in what is a very red area.
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No Butt Stuff posted:instead of talking about that, let's talk about how I recently got to work with a woman who just became the first Hispanic mayor of a large mid-western city, and it was very cool to see her approach to diversity in business vs the woman I typically "work" with. Which city is this?
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Hello shambling zombie politics thread ho-HootTheOwl posted:I, too, am SHOCKED that the moderator of TGRS prioritizes race over class! Under the vegetable posted:I am indeed shocked that the woman who tried to scam a bunch of disadvantaged people out of money to buy herself a new gtx 1080 doesn't prioritize class.  No Butt Stuff posted:instead of talking about that, let's talk about how I recently got to work with a woman who just became the first Hispanic mayor of a large mid-western city, and it was very cool to see her approach to diversity in business vs the woman I typically "work" with. What are some examples of policy change?
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https://twitter.com/wafb/status/950840790544154624 Teacher asks why the superintendent should get a $30,000 raise (to $140,000 anually) when teachers make so little. Is physically assaulted and escorted out in handcuffs for her trouble
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JK Rowling is left wing in the same way Clinton is left wing. As in not at all. She likes the welfare state because it personally benefited her while she was between mid market jobs and writing kids books. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/25/jk-rowling-labour-party-has-turned-solipsistic-personality-cult/ Here she is moaning that there isn't a Sensible Centrist party for her to vote for in response to the actual leftwing Jeremy Corbyn. And this was after the dramatic turnaround in the general election that saw Labour take away the Tory majority in an election that was supposed to wipe out Labour as a party all together. Y'all are easily taken in by PR.
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What do you mean "policy change"? For her new job or for approaching diversity as a business? The latter is mostly just actually engaging suppliers rather than fixating on numbers and being good at finding new suppliers to fill a small niche.
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Gonzo McFee posted:JK Rowling is left wing in the same way Clinton is left wing. But famous person make thing I like, how can be bad?
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Lmao y'all tried it. If you're not gonna fight back against racist or misogynistic attacks on any minority you are not a loving antiracist/feminism Ally. Full stop. Being a billionaire didn't stop Oprah from getting turned out of a couture store in France because she was black.Money doesn't protect you from racism. Money doesn't stop you from being loving raped. Y'all acting like I should ignore racism because the person has a poo poo ton of money while I chill in poverty is exactly why black folks don't trust leftists. You prioritize money and class war over antiblackness and fighting racism. There is no excuse for racism/misogynoir. None. I'm not gonna stand by and let it slide just because I don't like or agree with that person. This doesn't mean I don't want to guillotine the rich. It means I'm anti loving racist.
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Under the vegetable posted:I am indeed shocked that the woman who tried to scam a bunch of disadvantaged people out of money to buy herself a new gtx 1080 doesn't prioritize class. I am shocked the person that falsely accused Facts Are Useless of being a pedophile is falsely accusing another mod of another crime. I am also glad to see that the post has already been reported and look forward to your ban for being a racist fuckwit.
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im sorry where is the oprah racism you're defending her from exactly? is there someone criticising her for being black or a woman here? (no)
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You know that she doesn't have to be referring to something in the thread and could just be referring to racist poo poo she's seen over the years, right.
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Koalas March posted:Y'all acting like I should ignore racism because the person has a poo poo ton of money while I chill in poverty is exactly why black folks don't trust leftists. You prioritize money and class war over antiblackness and fighting racism. yeah no im pretty sure she's talking about the thread tbqh im still lolling from the last meltdown when she said she'd like a lifetime of an Obama presidency (and then complains about being a poor black person lol)
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biracial bear for uncut posted:I am shocked the person that falsely accused Facts Are Useless of being a pedophile is falsely accusing another mod of another crime. Calling out someone for abusing their position of authority to steal from the most compassionate people in the segregationist paper bag test forum is racist. Thanks.
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Being rich doesn't completely insulate you from racism, sexism, homophobia, or other forms of bigotry. I don't know who here is arguing against this. It's the only reason that the Democrats go as far as to have their weak sauce identity politics in the first place.
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Iron Twinkie posted:Being rich doesn't completely insulate you from racism, sexism, homophobia, or other forms of bigotry. I don't know who here is arguing against this. nobody, literally a black person was mentioned and KM went on another bender about how the white leftists don't care about black people
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HootTheOwl posted:I, too, am SHOCKED that the moderator of TGRS prioritizes race over class! I haven't seen that. And, more importantly, you don't have to prioritize race over class to think that it's lovely that even a billionaire is still subject to all the dog whistles (and, in the case of some in this thread, just plain old audible at a human level whistles).
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self unaware posted:im sorry where is the oprah racism you're defending her from exactly? is there someone criticising her for being black or a woman here? (no) This is Koala's March's first post on the subject, pretty clearly not a post directly about posts made in this thread. Koalas March posted:Lmao people have been talking about Oprah running for loving decades. Let it go until something concrete happens. I'm tired of having to defend her from bullshit attacks and random sourceless accusations. Defense against racist dogwhistles are also a thing, but accusing Oprah of wanting to run for President without a definitive source where she said she wants to do that is pretty bullshit. Under the vegetable posted:Calling out someone for abusing their position of authority to steal from the most compassionate people in the segregationist paper bag test forum is racist. Thanks. It is when it's poo poo that didn't loving happen, there is a thread in BFC where she asked people for help about setting things up where posters in that subforum can send money to each other, or suggestions for the best way to do it, and the only reason people keep accusing her of doing that is because they're stupid loving racists that don't seem to notice when moderators ban people for propagating that particular lie.
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Thanks to the magic of crosscutting, even if somebody's experiences are in one way similar to your own, they can be radically different at the same time and there is no guarantee they will share your agenda. Class is an important component because in addition to just its obvious material effects it also changes the perception of problem solving by the given individual.
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self unaware posted:yeah no im pretty sure she's talking about the thread At that point she was, because some folks got loving gross. Fake edit: And continue to be so.
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Under the vegetable posted:Calling out someone for abusing their position of authority to steal from the most compassionate people in the segregationist paper bag test forum is racist. Thanks. If you have a problem with TGRS existing, take it to Lowtax, he created it out of his own free will, and no one asked him to do it. The whole saga is freely available for you to read in the goldmined Negrotown thread. This also shows that you have no idea about TGRS, it's purpose, it's posters or it's moderation, so in summation: 
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Under the vegetable posted:Calling out someone for abusing their position of authority to steal from the most compassionate people in the segregationist paper bag test forum is racist. Thanks. Go away
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Koalas March posted:Lmao y'all tried it. It's true. I chide morons on twitter threads all the time for making fun of SHuckS appearance, because it's irrelevant and misogynistic. There's plenty wrong with that woman without dipping into the outing-yourself-as-a-shithead reservoir.
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joepinetree posted:I haven't seen that. I'm not sure how you read KM's most recent post as anything other than an admission that attacking racism was/is a higher priority than dealing with Oprah's wealth? "Being a billionaire didn't stop Oprah from getting turned out of a couture store in France because she was black.Money doesn't protect you from racism. Money doesn't stop you from being loving raped." Using an example of when Oprah's race took precedence over Oprah's wealth also seems like justification of the idea that 'Issues of race outweigh issues of class'? quote:And, more importantly, you don't have to prioritize race over class to think that it's lovely that even a billionaire is still subject to all the dog whistles (and, in the case of some in this thread, just plain old audible at a human level whistles). (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Lmao y'all acting like my rage against antiblackness means I'm gonna throw myself in front of the guillotine for her. But here's a secret: I'm not. You're perpetuating a lovely and racist trope that black people are a tribe who will band together just because we're both black. It's just not true. I'm not about to let anyone call Omarosa a friend of the family either and I got no love for that woman. I'd like to introduce you to a famous African American proverb: "Your skinfolk ain't your kin folk"
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HootTheOwl posted:I'm not sure how you read KM's most recent post as anything other than an admission that attacking racism was/is a higher priority than dealing with Oprah's wealth? No,, it is in no way an admission that attacking racism is a higher priority than dealing with Oprah's wealth. I mean, this isn't that hard. At no point KM said that Oprah should be president. She pointed out the many times dogwhistles have been used against her. Pointing out that Oprah has dealt with racist bullshit in no way prevents people from pointing out all the ways she was lovely as a billionaire. I think that in a fair world Obama would be tried for crimes against humanity (just like every other president or high level DoD or state department high level office holder since Carter). I still think it is important to point out and highlight just how much of the opposition to Obama was racist. I can do both without prioritizing one over the other.
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HootTheOwl posted:I'm not sure how you read KM's most recent post as anything other than an admission that attacking racism was/is a higher priority than dealing with Oprah's wealth? I'm not sure how you read this post as anything other than an admission that you don't care about racism. Are you just clueless, or a covert racist, because wow.
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I get that you guys are caricatures and not real people but... oh wait I remembered that that also means you're free of depth.
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Roland Jones posted:I'm not sure how you read this post as anything other than an admission that you don't care about racism. Are you just clueless, or a covert racist, because wow. edit: In a lovely bit or irony, I was mixing Hoot up with birdcooch. So I apologize Hoot. That's totally my bad. My memory is garbage because of my meds so don't judge me too harshly. For the record Hoot... Feel free to PM me and we can hash out whatever issues you have with me. I'll give my life story IDGAF but I'm tired of you derailing poo poo by attacking me with rumors or whatever you've read that are false as hell. Koalas March fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Jan 10, 2018 |
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Oprah is a billionaire and a black woman and I got nothing against her that I don't have against any billionaire. Being one of very few extremely wealthy and successful black women, I do respect her being able to achieve what she has. I hated her talk show, but... I hate all daytime talkshows, because they symbolize the end of cartoons to my puerile worldview.
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HootTheOwl posted:I get that you guys are caricatures and not real people but... oh wait I remembered that that also means you're free of depth. You literally described KM talking about how Oprah's riches didn't protect her from racism or rape as a bad thing for her to do, you imbecile.
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steinrokkan posted:Thanks to the magic of crosscutting, even if somebody's experiences are in one way similar to your own, they can be radically different at the same time and there is no guarantee they will share your agenda. Class is an important component because in addition to just its obvious material effects it also changes the perception of problem solving by the given individual. Yeah but that’s not to say that racism is inherently different between classes, as Henry Louis Gates learned.
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