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Sniep posted:good luck, i was just there tonight (for other purposes, but still snagged a pic) Yeah you have to ask the sales reps which days they get shipments in and line up outside of the store before opening time on those days. I did that back in May 2017 because at that time you could buy cards there and resell them on ebay for twice or more the amount. Now I'd do it just to be able to buy the cards at all, inflated price or not.
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Sniep posted:good luck, i was just there tonight (for other purposes, but still snagged a pic) lol are you kidding me? I thought this "you can't find a video card" was a healthy amount of hyperbole. I stand corrected.
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Dadbod Apocalypse posted:lol are you kidding me? I thought this "you can't find a video card" was a healthy amount of hyperbole. I stand corrected. Can't find them online either other than ebay where you pay 50-100% over MSRP
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https://twitter.com/slashdot/status/952395936738824193 I hope it comes soon!
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^^^^ warren buffet also doesnt understand what cryptocurrency is or how it works. Yeah its inflated bullshit buts thats the extent of his knowledge. MaxxBot posted:Can't find them online either other than ebay where you pay 50-100% over MSRP use nowinstock. You can easily buy a few cards a week at the now normal +$50 prices. I have been flipping them locally and keeping the especially good ones for the rig im building. Free money and heatstroke here we go.
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Dadbod Apocalypse posted:lol are you kidding me? I thought this "you can't find a video card" was a healthy amount of hyperbole. I stand corrected.  Frys e: it's not even just GPUs, PSUs are mia and inflated Risky Bisquick fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Jan 14, 2018 |
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I've been holding off on upgrading from my 7870 for years now, with my plan being to jump on a new generation right around when it became totally unworkable. I figured I'd save some money that way, skipping as many generations as I can. well, now I'm basically at the point where I have to upgrade. I wasn't feeling too worried about it since I figured the 1170s must be right around the corner by now. reading the last few pages, I guess I made a huge mistake. gently caress.
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Holy gently caress, seriously, gently caress all miners. That's ridiculous...
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Koramei posted:reading the last few pages, I guess I made a huge mistake. gently caress. Keep in mind the 1050 is probably equivalent to your card and the 1050ti is a slight step forward. What I'm getting at here is, your card is not as ancient as the guy in another thread who was using a GTX 200 or something.
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I’m really tempted to list my old 770 for a few hundred bucks on eBay just to see if someone will bite.
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tehinternet posted:I’m really tempted to list my old 770 for a few hundred bucks on eBay just to see if someone will bite. At this point, someone just might.
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All this poo poo makes me really happy I bought a 1080 Ti back in May because I figured Vega would be a flop, and there'd be no better card for a long time. Not only was that 100% correct, little did I know there was an even better reason to buy back then. I could probably get some good money for the 290X I still have, but it's in my wife's PC. Eh, it's not worth the trouble. What a crazy market situation. HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Jan 14, 2018 |
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otoh if you want to irreversibly quit high settings in video games there's a way to come out ahead!
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If I had like a 970 lying around or something I'd absolutely sell my 1080 at these inflated prices and come out ahead. I just don't use the thing enough, and power costs here make mining 24/7 really not a fantastic proposition.
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I'm glad I was able to get a 1080 from amazon last week for a slightly inflated but reasonable price. It seems like a couple of days afterwards everything sold out. My GTX 970 had a factory OC and couldn't go much above it but the 1080 is just reference speed and OC's decently in afterburner.
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Holy poo poo ya’ll weren’t kidding about these GPU prices. The $660 1080ti I got last summer feels like the best tech deal I’ve ever got. Between this and RAM prices I feel awful for anyone trying to build a PC right now, better off buying a prebuilt right now.
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Rastor posted:If I were a GPU manufacturer I would publish a store app in Steam which allowed you to purchase one (1) GPU upgrade for immediate shipping at MSRP if your system hardware showed you were on a gaming PC that needed an upgrade. Why? GPU manufacturers like money. They're not in it for charity.
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Paul MaudDib posted:Which run on what? Oh yeah, the VBIOS again. Render-to-texture is a thing games expect to exist, though? I mean, it's used for various effects and also things like computer monitors within game worlds or whatever. Their magic VBIOS would have to somehow determine whether a given shader is 'for games' or 'for compute'. That's not really possible as a general thing.
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I remember years ago a hack I saw was rendering a blank offscreen window in order to do compute stuff before there was a real library for it.
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feedmegin posted:Why? GPU manufacturers like money. They're not in it for charity. While trying to enforce MSRP is a hilariously losing proposition for everyone in the sales chain, limiting purchases to X units does make sense: if you're confident you can sell out anyhow (and right now they absolutely are), spreading the products around gets you better PR and general feelings from the unwashed masses, rather than letting one dude buy them all up and leave everyone else pissed off that they can't buy any.
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feedmegin posted:Render-to-texture is a thing games expect to exist, though? I mean, it's used for various effects and also things like computer monitors within game worlds or whatever. Their magic VBIOS would have to somehow determine whether a given shader is 'for games' or 'for compute'. That's not really possible as a general thing. Where does this texture get rendered to? Oh yeah, the monitor. I don't think most gaming titles actually enforce HDCP. Trust the money involved, you cannot actually/should not be able to leak data back from the framebuffer back to the CPU when HDCP is activated. That is kind of the point of HDCP, in fact. Like, I'm not getting how you don't understand that HDCP is also a thing that drivers expect to exist, and can (securely) refuse to work if it doesn't exist. Again, kind of the point of a secure render chain. Will NVIDIA? No. Could NVIDIA? Yes. Again, it hasn't been your hardware since they started enforcing VBIOS signatures. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Jan 14, 2018 |
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I play on PC since 1991, and I never had a GPU (or whole system) survive as long and not getting replaced as my 980Ti. I usually replace a card with each generation. While it is a GPU from summer 2015, I can still play all games on 2560*1440 on maxed out Settings. 31 (!) months after 980TI’s launch, there are still only 3 NVIDIA GPUs faster (1080, 1080Ti, Titan P). When did that happen last time within the NVIDIA GPU history? The 780Ti for example had to face the Titan Black, 970 and 980 within 10 months. The game benchmarks of a new NVIDIA xx80 card this spring or early summer should hopefully and literally provide 100 % of a 980TI’s performance in the same testbuilds and settings and games at 1440p. This would mean the 980Ti will have been able to compete at the 2 most common resolutions 1080p and 1440p (sometimes around but mostly way above 60 avg fps) for absurd 3 years without needing to reduce gfx settings in any way. The fantastic oc potentials mean you could easily use this card for another 1 or 2 years unless game engines and DX12 or whatever tank the fps seriously. Imho the 980 Ti is the „best“ gaming GPU of the last years performance and money wise, and leading not even close. Goons opinions on that matter ?
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Yeah I would the put the 970 in the same category as well, both offered a really good value and still perform well today. The 960 and 980 weren't priced as aggressively as either of those cards were. Maxwell was a hell of a generation hence why Pascal is basically shrunk down and sped up Maxwell.
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The 970 and 980 ti are standout winners from the Maxwell generation. The 970 being priced outside of the expected price/performance curve and later on the 980 ti performing so well but using a lot of power so no one cared about it for mining. Oh no, an extra dollar a month to play games, I'll let that eat into the 300 dollars saved compared to getting a 1080 now. I'll still try to get the next generation x80 card because it's what I've done for every generation except Fermi since that reviewed so poorly in areas I care about. That time around I got a second 280 instead of a Fermi, SLI isn't as much of an option this time if I end up not liking Ampere.
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Yeah, I sold my 970 to a friend and picked up a secondhand 980ti for relatively cheap (~£340) just after Pascal was announced, and despite upgrading to a 1440p monitor since then, I haven't felt the need to upgrade at all.
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You guys are right, the 970 should be mentioned. For Full HD / 1080p gaming the 970 still is amazingly solid even over 3 years after launch as well, and the 970 was a serious slam dunk on AMD with an impact that AMD could not recover from until today (which is not good for us customers).
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Scott Wasson interview: How far the respected have fallen. https://videocardz.com/74753/amds-scott-wasson-talks-about-the-future-of-radeon
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Mr.PayDay posted:I play on PC since 1991, and I never had a GPU (or whole system) survive as long and not getting replaced as my 980Ti. I usually replace a card with each generation. While it is a GPU from summer 2015, I can still play all games on 2560*1440 on maxed out Settings. The 1070ti is probably faster than your 980ti, so 4 cards. A 290/290X would be pretty close at being great for the money ($200) and longevity.
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Huh, looks like im stuck with this RX480 for the foreseeable future. Lets hope my wine ages well.
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redeyes posted:Huh, looks like im stuck with this RX480 for the foreseeable future. Lets hope my wine ages well. You did it wrong AMD and now it's vinegar
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Risky Bisquick posted:The 1070ti is probably faster than your 980ti, so 4 cards. A 290/290X would be pretty close at being great for the money ($200) and longevity.  welp, you are right. Please allow me doing some mental gymnastics and put it this way: There are 4 cards that outpace the 980Ti but they are placed not in 4 but in fact in only 2 tiers of Nvidia GPU‘s after 31 months that are a step up fps wise: 1.) The 1070Ti and 1080 (very similar performance, 30-40% above 980Ti) 2.)The 1080Ti + Titan P (very similar performance, 70-80% above 980Ti) Mr.PayDay fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Jan 14, 2018 |
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feedmegin posted:Why? GPU manufacturers like money. They're not in it for charity. The idea being not to maximize profit in the short term but rather to earn goodwill and brand loyalty for the long term.
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Truga posted:nvidia can do no wrong in the eyes of its customers already, pretty sure you can't go up from there Sorry, I should have said AIB manufacturer, not GPU manufacturer. Common parlance is to call the whole card product a GPU.
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Rastor posted:Sorry, I should have said AIB manufacturer, not GPU manufacturer. Common parlance is to call the whole card product a GPU. I don't think Joe America has much of an opinion on specific AIB manufacturers, either. He just wants to buy a shiny new card at a good price, and isn't likely to care much about whether it's MSI or EVGA or Gigabyte or whatever--especially if the current trend of them all overclocking to virtually the same point regardless of make or model repeats itself.
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Fauxtool posted:You did it wrong AMD and now it's vinegar It is vinegar. It's the buggiest video card i've ever had.
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I visited 3 computer stores today, I only saw sub 1050/560 cards on the shelves. Anecdotal from the manager at one store; a 1080ti shipment came in and lasted 20 minutes from store opening a few days prior. The end of times
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DrDork posted:I don't think Joe America has much of an opinion on specific AIB manufacturers, either. He just wants to buy a shiny new card at a good price, and isn't likely to care much about whether it's MSI or EVGA or Gigabyte or whatever--especially if the current trend of them all overclocking to virtually the same point regardless of make or model repeats itself. I dunno; I’ve had nothing but good experiences with EVGA and actively seek out their stock over others. I’d have to see a clear benefit to changing to someone else for me to change —which I would, I’m not fanboying, I’m saying that I’ve got first hand experience with them and they’ve been good so I’d need a clear reason to switch to say, MSI. I would think I’m probably a bit of an outlier with this train of thought.
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Even if it's true that there's currently very little brand loyalty, doesn't that prove my point? This could have been a chance to earn some.
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