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Pfff, fatamids and a victorious crusade for Arabia by a holy order call me when it's the Somalis ruling everything, not the fatamids and it's the Zun holy order holding it btw, Somali Merchant Republics are kinda hilarious because their cultural retinue is pure light infantry, which while garbage, means that you can have so many of them it's kinda insane Especially if you nab the silk road posts too
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DJ Dizzy posted:Apparently my son is already at the highest rank of lucifers own.
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DJ Dizzy posted:What are the good cultural retinues? Pure heavy infantry isn't bad, but not great, same with camels Anything mixed is probably inferior to defensive retinue; light infantry is pure garbo and the others are comically expensive; by the time you have any number of them, you have probably won There's a few exceptions with cultural retinues getting specific tactics, but those are pretty rare tbh, all I can think of is the grey wall for Indians, the much nerfed Longbow Volley for the welsh/english and the new Tibetan ambush that makes light infantry ok but only in mountains lol lurksion posted:Yes the son/daughter of satan auto gets that.
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Jan 15, 2018 03:15
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Jan 15, 2018 03:41
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DJ Dizzy posted:Is there any way I can cure my son of being demon-spawn and having the voice of satan? loving why. Wait for him to kill you and then Reconquista in the name of a slightly different god.
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Jan 15, 2018 04:05
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If I create the titular title of Visby and give it to a lord mayor of Gotland, will it turn into a merchant republic, or do i have to give the entire duchy of Austergotland?
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winterwerefox posted:If I create the titular title of Visby and give it to a lord mayor of Gotland, will it turn into a merchant republic, or do i have to give the entire duchy of Austergotland? That will be all you need. He'll end up fighting with whoever owns the dukedom though, since the other duke will desire the county of Gotland.
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I usually hold Austergotland myself along with Sweden, so no worries there. Will Visby count against my duchy limit for pissing people off? or is it like being Fylkir, and they dont give a poo poo while i figure out who to give this title to?
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winterwerefox posted:I usually hold Austergotland myself along with Sweden, so no worries there. Will Visby count against my duchy limit for pissing people off? or is it like being Fylkir, and they dont give a poo poo while i figure out who to give this title to? It will count against your duchy limit. I always make Gotland into a merchant republic in my Norse games, it's pretty neat. But as others have pointed out, the duke of Austergotland will constantly try to conquer them. So either hold the title yourself or destroy it.
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Tried starting a game as Dubrovnik - within 3 days had 3 people already declared war - within the week 2 more joined. That game ended in about 15min. Not sure how to deal with being the only Pagans over there.
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Jan 15, 2018 08:53
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Torrannor posted:It will count against your duchy limit. I always make Gotland into a merchant republic in my Norse games, it's pretty neat. But as others have pointed out, the duke of Austergotland will constantly try to conquer them. So either hold the title yourself or destroy it. Just disable internal wars.
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So I just killed a fellow immortal born in 83 BC by distracting him with a debate on the nature of mortality and then bashing his head in with a candlestick. I would have fought him fairly drat it but that piece of poo poo came after my Empress when she was taking a -4 hit to personal combat from being mangled in a previous incident. If that motherfucker wanted a fair fight he should've gone after me when I was healthy. 
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So my situation right now is I have 2 sons. one is set to form the kingdom of Denmark when he inherits, plus taking Duchies of Sjaeland and Jylland wholesale. So i give him those duchies, gavelkin is happy, it doesnt want any of my lands in sweden that is going to my heir who i gave the county of Suddenmanland to so he can have a life before he takes over for me, but real close to home, being in my capital duchy. Future King of Denmark son dies before he can form the kingdom from my death, by falling down the stairs, so the kingdom title is now not in play. he had twin sons right before kicking it, and they got Sjaeland and Jylland one each for themselves. Now Gavelkin is saying that the grandson that got Sjaeland is also getting my lands of Austergotland and Gotland, plus the Duchy. Whats my solution here? A small claim war when my heir takes over? Why did it suddenly say that this baby has claim to half my lands? Mainly im trying to understand why gavelkin did this poo poo
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Because gavelkin exists only to cause you pain and suffering
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Kill you're famil...until there is only one son. Problem solved!
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What kind of retinues, if any, does Bear culture have? I've got one in my court and only about a hundred years left, I'm thinking about appointing him court tutor and letting things get weird
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How do you get a bear in the first place? I looked it up and I guess it's like a character looks like a normal human, but then it turns out they're actually a bear? Can this happen to the player character or just other people?
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Turns out i didnt need to worry about it. i had another kid while 70 years old with my 45 year old wife.
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The Cheshire Cat posted:The most accurate Steam review ever written for CK2 is just "I thought I was a good person before I got this game." For me, this lesson sank in around the time I went on a viking raid into the Mediterranean, sacked Constantinople, took the Byzantine emperor's wife and daughter prisoner, and subsequently sacrificed the wife to the gods and made the daughter into my concubine with the intent of producing a useful son for my ambitions and murdering any disappointing children she produced to keep that situation under control.
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A question for those who are more savvy with custom kingdoms in this game: I'm doing a viking playthrough, and while I was able to cobble together Denmark, Sweden, and Norway pretty early, and even reform the Old Germanic faith, I could never keep things together long enough to grab Finland to form the Empire of Scandinavia, and by the time I was strong and stable enough most of the Finland territory was occupied by a bigger and stronger kingdom that was friends with all the other nearby pagans. So I decided to get myself to feudalism and out of the Gavelkind Nightmare by forming the Empire of Denmark. Now I finally got enough of Finland to form the Empire of Scandinavia, but it seems to exclusively contain those Finnish territories. What I want to know is, is there some way for me to put all of my territory under the de jure umbrella of one empire title? Or should I just destroy this mostly useless Empire of Scandinavia title and keep rolling as Empire of Denmark?
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If you destroy Scandinavia and control all of de jure Finland, it will drift into your custom empire. Likewise, if you destroy your custom empire and control all the counties in the kingdoms you used to create it, they will drift back into Scandinavia.Crow Jane posted:What kind of retinues, if any, does Bear culture have? I've got one in my court and only about a hundred years left, I'm thinking about appointing him court tutor and letting things get weird
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There's no appropriately themed Devil Worship Society for the Aztecs  Also for some reason it keeps notifying me that random people are being sacrificed by the Aztecs to their foul pagan gods. Since I'm playing as the Aztecs, but wasn't sacrificing anyone at that particular time, I'm assuming it was some vassal of mine? Also, exterminating the Karling Dynasty before Charlemagne was born appears to have caused some serious issues. Initially, their territory consolidated and turned into Austrasia or something, but now weird blobs of Revolts are appearing and disappearing every few years like schrodinger's cancer.
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ShakeZula posted:A question for those who are more savvy with custom kingdoms in this game: I'm doing a viking playthrough, and while I was able to cobble together Denmark, Sweden, and Norway pretty early, and even reform the Old Germanic faith, I could never keep things together long enough to grab Finland to form the Empire of Scandinavia, and by the time I was strong and stable enough most of the Finland territory was occupied by a bigger and stronger kingdom that was friends with all the other nearby pagans. So I decided to get myself to feudalism and out of the Gavelkind Nightmare by forming the Empire of Denmark. Now I finally got enough of Finland to form the Empire of Scandinavia, but it seems to exclusively contain those Finnish territories. If I'm reading this right, then Finland is the only thing left in Scandinavia? If that's the case I'd just keep rolling with the custom empire. I only use custom kingdoms and empires in rare instances where I really like the name and overall colors of the lower title. Like how when playing Jews I always do a custom Empire of Israel rather than using Arabia/Persia/Abyssinia. I just don't see the point in doing a big Jewish run if I'm not gonna be looking at Israel all over the map once I obtain an empire title, so I make the custom one.
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Annath posted:There's no appropriately themed Devil Worship Society for the Aztecs Given how metal Aztec religion normally is, what could their devil worshipers do that the high priests wouldn't go, "Yeah man, let's do that poo poo too."
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No Pants posted:If you destroy Scandinavia and control all of de jure Finland, it will drift into your custom empire. Likewise, if you destroy your custom empire and control all the counties in the kingdoms you used to create it, they will drift back into Scandinavia. I thought custom empires didn't get de jure drift? Regardless, it sounds like Danish Empire is the way to go. Sorry, Scandinavia. Now I think I'll declare a holy war on the Suommensk bastards to the East.
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AtomikKrab posted:bon characters have utterly insane light infantry UTTERLY INSANE.
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Welp, the year is 1448 in my ironman Israel run. As promised, gonna post a buncha screenshots and some highlights and poo poo. There's still five years left in the game so I'm doing this now because for the last few years I'm gonna grant independence to every vassal I can and watch the world explode into Jewish Thunderdome. Map Screens: Realm:  Religion:  Culture:  De Jure Empires:  Dynasty:  Trade:  Highlights/WTF:
Welp, that's about all I can think of that might be interesting off the top of my head. Honky Dong Country fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Jan 16, 2018 |
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Really? I mean, there's the mountain Ambush tactic, but is there like, religious combat bonuses? The retinue itself is crazy strong? According to this, the Himalayan Mountaineers are great because of the stacking bonuses shoring up LI's weaknesses and the LC enabling harass and raid tactics.
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Hahahahaha I granted everybody I could independence and dropped from 58 or so vassals to 18. There's now two pages of wars listed in the ledger. Well, ran out the last five years. Final score was 523,806. Honky Dong Country fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Jan 16, 2018 |
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quote:Really? I mean, there's the mountain Ambush tactic, but is there like, religious combat bonuses? The retinue itself is crazy strong? Himalayan Mountaineers are 300 Light Infantry, 100 Light Cavalry. Light Infantry of the retinue get 50% offence, 30% defence, 10% Morale. Light Cavalry of the retinue get 20% offence and defence. Tibetan Mountaineer Academy cultural building adds 10-40% Light Infantry Offence/Defence/Morale. So presuming they're heavily built up, regular levies are attacking at 1.4/1.4/2.4 power(From base 1/1/2 Skirmish/Melee/Pursue), and Retinue are attacking at 1.9/1.9/2.9 before thing like tech. Also 2.4 morale. They will sell their lives dearly, and there's a lot of them always. Then you take a look at combat tactics. https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Combat_tactics Very little targets Light Infantry badly and little targets Light Cavalry badly, and the odds are against those tactics turning up because of how much Light Infantry and Cavalry you'll have throwing things off. Bloodly fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Jan 16, 2018 |
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Ahhhh, man, that's interesting. It's always nice when there's a few wrinkles to the old "just slame more mans into them", so this is pretty neat. It's kinda weird there aren't any Bön cheevos tho, other than the cannibal one
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So I murdered my stupid Allah-praising liege in order to restore Christianity to Europe, it was easy bsince nobody liked the Muslim emperor of Francia. Now his christian son is ruler but I am still called sultan of Italy, did my cunning plan of murdering the guy I don't like fail? Also a question about internal management - I started as Duke of Spoleto and besides that, I own the duchy of Benevento and all counties under it, the duchy of Lombardy with only the Lombardy county, and the counties of Capua and Savoy. My plan was to keep Lombardy in order to avoid risking a mega-duke there, but I can't fabricate claims on the counties I don't own because it's not my capital; so I would have to go the slow way round and should give the duchy of Benevento to someone, maybe my son which just turned 18. But that would lose me a lot of power. I also have a lot of duchies to create still (Pisa, Ferrara, and a couple others). What's the best way to achieve my goal of being personally very strong without everybody hating me?
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More than two duchy titles will get you a relationship penalty with your vassals. Personally I think the best way to go is to find a holding you can have 4 or 5 castles in, then have that be your capital owning them all yourself. Put your marshal there to train troops and your chancellor there to collect taxes so multiple castles get those bonuses on top of the capital county bonus. Other counties in your capital duchy also get a smaller bonus.
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GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:More than two duchy titles will get you a relationship penalty with your vassals. Personally I think the best way to go is to find a holding you can have 4 or 5 castles in, then have that be your capital owning them all yourself. Put your marshal there to train troops and your chancellor there to collect taxes so multiple castles get those bonuses on top of the capital county bonus. Other counties in your capital duchy also get a smaller bonus. Yes I do know all of that, and that's why I have to get rid of at least one duchy.. just wondering if my plan is sound (keeping the duchy of Lombardy and maybe making it capital even if it's underdeveloped now, to eventually be stronger, and get rid of Benevento) or if it would be better to keep developing my current capital Spoleto and keep the nearby duchy to have all my power consolidated in the same area, risking giving away one of the best, biggest duchies in my Kingdom to someone who could or could not oppose me and gently caress me over Lombardy has 5 de jure counties of which at least 2 have 4 holdings, it's a great place. Too bad that "moving" there would leave me very much weaker in the short term
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TorakFade posted:My plan was to keep Lombardy in order to avoid risking a mega-duke there, but I can't fabricate claims on the counties I don't own because it's not my capital; so I would have to go the slow way round and should give the duchy of Benevento to someone, maybe my son which just turned 18. But that would lose me a lot of power. I also have a lot of duchies to create still (Pisa, Ferrara, and a couple others). What's the best way to achieve my goal of being personally very strong without everybody hating me? Give Lombardy to your son and start feeding development to his duchy to transfer capitals when your current character dies? Or if you are close to death go on a tyranny rampage and revoke a couple of counties in Lombardy.
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Fat Samurai posted:Give Lombardy to your son and start feeding development to his duchy to transfer capitals when your current character dies? Or if you are close to death go on a tyranny rampage and revoke a couple of counties in Lombardy. Nice idea, how do I transfer development? I'm in my late thirties so hopefully I still have 20-30 years to go with this character
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You can build/upgrade stuff in a vassal's demesne the same way you do in yours. EDIT: Marry him to someone suitable before granting him land or he will end up with a drunk, maimed heretic adulteress. Fat Samurai fucked around with this message at 12:20 on Jan 16, 2018 |
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Fat Samurai posted:You can build/upgrade stuff in a vassal's demesne the same way you do in yours. Oh yes I know, but the issue here is tech.. my capital is around 12/12/12, Lombardy is like 8/8/9, I can't even build stuff there that is available and already built in my capital  it's 970 if that helps
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Tech will spread between provinces if they're adjacent or owned by the same character- so just owning Lombardy would have done it eventually. But honestly it's probably better just to save your money/tech points for the next thirty years and just go ham when you inherit. Tech spread takes forever.
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