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Volmarias posted:I think I found your new employer Nah, he's a friend, but I live 1,800 miles away in Michigan and he's in Boise. I'm embedded Linux and they are web.
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Portland Sucks posted:What is it with this place and people sending all hands e-mails. Reminds me of a place I was at in the late 90s. "Our goals for the year is 100% turnover and we need everyone's help to reach it!"
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I found the job posting they put up for my coworkers replacement. It's so incredibly vague, and in some places straight up wrong/lying by omission that I made a new Slack room with the director of engineering and the one other guy above me, and accosted them line by line with a "this is wrong, this is a lie, this is vague" rundown of the job posting. I ended it with "If this is what you think my coworker did, it's clear you have no idea what he actually was doing." They both logged off Slack and refuse to answer my calls (I am in another state right now.) 
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Highly recommend making a private Slack group with your fav coworkers and saying "look at what these assholes wrote"
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rt4 posted:Highly recommend making a private Slack group with your fav coworkers and saying "look at what these assholes wrote" Lmfao, my coworker said "they cried" at his resignation meeting. Baby boomer tears are delicious. (I guarantee they were fake)
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Boss lady posted:I need you to come into the office at 10:30 to speak with Steve, myself and CEO. She forgot I am 1800 miles away in another state for a FUNERAL.
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ratbert90 posted:She forgot I am 1800 miles away in another state for a FUNERAL. That email reads like you're going to be fired, so...congratulations on leaving a lovely job?
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Pollyanna posted:That email reads like you're going to be fired, so...congratulations on leaving a lovely job? Nah, it's a 38 man company, if I was going to get fired they would just call me. She said "Oh, I forgot, I reschedule for monday"
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The language used was rather terse and pointed, so that's how I interpreted it. v v It has that tell-tale accent of "I am angry/disappointed" that admittedly may only exist in my reading.
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My money's on you getting a stern talking-to about questioning the wisdom of the company leaders.
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Clanpot Shake posted:My money's on you getting a stern talking-to about questioning the wisdom of the company leaders. To which I will reply  Already have 2 interviews.
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Kinda surprised that a company would give a talking-to instead of just firing an employee. Fire fast, am I right?
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ratbert90 posted:Lmfao, my coworker said "they cried" at his resignation meeting. Damnit, I knew I should have aimed higher. I didn't get tears. (yet, still another week to go before *fingers crossed*)Pollyanna posted:Kinda surprised that a company would give a talking-to instead of just firing an employee. Fire fast, am I right? Sometimes, companies can't do this because they actually need certain people.
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Skandranon posted:Damnit, I knew I should have aimed higher. I didn't get tears. (yet, still another week to go before Nobody needs an rear end in a top hat.
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Keetron posted:Nobody needs an rear end in a top hat. Trust me, I'm being nice considering the circumstances.
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Pollyanna posted:Kinda surprised that a company would give a talking-to instead of just firing an employee. Fire fast, am I right? In most countries you can't just fire an employee. You'd have to live in a real shithole for that to be possible.
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It's possible in the United States (or is that  )
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This is me some days when doing code review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncGHiVKJh0Y
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For some reason, my manager at my previous job (which was my first job as a dev) was completely convinced I'd become the next generation of the old, bearded expert man who knows every system inside and out. Then I got an offer from a company that does much more interesting things, I took it, and when I told my previous job's manager I was resigning (at a bit of an unfortunate time for the company, lots of good people were leaving at the time) it looked like she was about to have a mental breakdown. Then, a couple days after I handed in my resignation letter, she planned a meeting with me and the CTO to 'find out how they can prevent good people from leaving'. CTO asked me why I was leaving, I told him the truth: because I didn't want to build the millionth copy of a website customer portal or a customer database implementation, I wanted to work on actual innovative stuff, and my new job offered exactly that. He then asked me if I'd have reconsidered if I would've gotten a company car. I told him probably not, if my work doesn't inspire me there's not much they can do. "So you wouldn't have appreciated a company car?" "Of course I would, I just don't think it'd be a deciding factor for me". I think all I said went right over his head and he walked out believing that giving people company cars would solve all his problems.
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What if the car was broken? Wouldn't that be an interesting problem?
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Pollyanna posted:Kinda surprised that a company would give a talking-to instead of just firing an employee. Fire fast, am I right? No. Replacing an employee is mid 5 figures plus the productivity lost in bringing them up to speed. The only time I’ve fired someone outright is harassment, once physical twice sexual. And that’s to protect the employees more than anything else. Otherwise it’s PIPs and multiple chances.
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Keetron posted:Nobody needs an rear end in a top hat. Enkidel? Is that you? ... is this how the thread ends? 
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I am feeling in a bit of a slump...thought I would solicit any general advice/commiserations/berating. I am about 8 months in on my first full-time web development role working remotely on a small team for a small startup company. Before this I did a bootcamp with a lot of trendy modern stuff and I honestly held strong normative opinions about everything and had a "zest" for web development (probably quite annoying, uninformed, possibly). I volunteered at some web dev conferences and all kinds of stuff. So 8 months in and my worldview is completely humbled/grounded as I wrestle with what I formerly would have written off as legacy tools including early versions of jQuery, Subversion for version control and a legitimately legacy PHP framework (Symfony 1.3). I am humbled as these things still serve real customers/I work on things responding to real customer requests. I have written some significant features with these tools and by now committed quite a few changes. Working remotely has some great benefits but I am experiencing some loneliness and going to a coffee shop everyday is my escape sometimes but gets repetitive. I also work- perhaps not to maximum effectiveness all the time- a great deal more than the 9-5 work week when we are expected to be available. With work literally at my desk battle-station its tempting to work all the time or at least be thinking about work all the time. I guess what I am wondering is - others have gone through stuff like this? I just have trouble evaluating my own worth/ level of skill at this point because I am now sort of aware of just how hard things can be/much there is to know. Job is secure for the foreseeable future until the company may fold. I dont know what tech (thinking Node.Js) I would go heavy into if I had to look for a new job.
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The work sounds like pretty normal, tbh. There's always some old tool that stuck around for too long, a bunch of code to write that doesn't necessarily help you grow at all, and a huge backlog that never seems to shrink. The humbling never really goes away either (I personally try to use it as incentive to keep on top of my skills and not get too bummed out about it). However, there are a couple of red flags. First, you need a way to continue growing as a coder - have you googled any meetups around you? Once you leave an incubator, they're a great way to stay exposed to new things and excited about coding. Plus you can meet other coders. Second, and more importantly, you need a life outside of work. Friends, a significant other, non-coding hobbies. I personally like to cook and go to the gym to stay healthy, and I follow some local bands which gets me out of the house and around other people. I sound like a robot but basically do non-computer stuff with your time off. It's easy to isolate yourself when working remote, and to never really stop working, but in the long term it will lead to burnout.
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Murrah posted:I am feeling in a bit of a slump...thought I would solicit any general advice/commiserations/berating. I think that's a pretty normal experience. I was fortunate, I suppose, that my first job was at a company that used Rails and Node and Angular and all that trendy stuff. Now that I have experience, I can turn my nose up at places using PHP or ColdFusion. If I were you, I would give some serious thought to interviewing as you come up on the 1 year mark. Even if you decide to stay with your current company in the end, it will be good practice, and will give you a sense of what the job market is like. quote:Working remotely has some great benefits but I am experiencing some loneliness and going to a coffee shop everyday is my escape sometimes but gets repetitive. I also work- perhaps not to maximum effectiveness all the time- a great deal more than the 9-5 work week when we are expected to be available. With work literally at my desk battle-station its tempting to work all the time or at least be thinking about work all the time. Loneliness is a major hazard of working remotely. It's good that you've found a coffee shop that can serve as an escape. A lot of remote workers and entrepreneurs get value out of going to co-working spaces. If they're available in your area, you might want to look into one and pitch your company on covering the membership fee. Working outside of office hours is bad for you.
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vonnegutt posted:The work sounds like pretty normal, tbh. fantastic in plastic posted:I think that's a pretty normal experience. Thanks for the feedback and also the 'obvious but needs to be repeated' points about being sensible and healthy. I have a co-working space but I havent been going there very much in winter I think I need to just make more effort there.
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Murrah posted:So 8 months in and my worldview is completely humbled/grounded as I wrestle with what I formerly would have written off as legacy tools including early versions of jQuery, Subversion for version control and a legitimately legacy PHP framework (Symfony 1.3). I am humbled as these things still serve real customers/I work on things responding to real customer requests. I have written some significant features with these tools and by now committed quite a few changes.
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Most times the equity isn’t with it. I was early at a startup and unless it sells for $300+ million it won’t even scratch my yearly bonus at a large corporation.
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No equity here, $45k a year, $150 Amazon Gift Card was the Christmas bonus. I honestly don't mean to put it down and I am grateful mostly it just is what it is... my first job in this industry.
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I guess I'd say it like this, if you leave at the 1 year mark from a couple different jobs, it's not the end of the world. Lifers (20+ years at the same company) will complain about it, but they usually are not the final say when it comes to deciding who gets hired and who doesn't, in my experience anyway. If you get to a larger company that you do like, you can apply for other positions in other departments/locations to move up or motivate your boss to promote you when things start stagnating.
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Keetron posted:Nobody needs an rear end in a top hat. I wish my company understood this. I’ve thought about pointing out to management how much more productive and pleasant conversations and meetings are without said rear end in a top hat.
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Iverron posted:I wish my company understood this. Ive thought about pointing out to management how much more productive and pleasant conversations and meetings are without said rear end in a top hat. How many times do you have to deal with hubris before you eventually need to become the rear end in a top hat?
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Be careful not to stare too deeply into the rear end in a top hat, lest the rear end in a top hat stare back into you.
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Volmarias posted:Be careful not to stare too deeply into the rear end in a top hat, lest the rear end in a top hat stare back into you. It's a fine line.
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ratbert90 posted:How many times do you have to deal with hubris before you eventually need to become the rear end in a top hat? In my experience, the best way to deal with assholes is to stretch them as far as they'll go
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We are basically standing up a reasonable development infra from scratch (we will be transitioning research code into prod ) and I need some advice. We want
So far, we are planning to lean heavily on self-hosted gitlab and stand up a dedicated server for d), because we don't have much experience with different tools, e.g. YouTrack or TeamCity. Not sure what is a good tool for f) in a mixed Java/C++ codebase.
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In my experience, the test runners already give reports on code coverage, but usually they are disabled by default.
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Xarn posted:We are basically standing up a reasonable development infra from scratch (we will be transitioning research code into prod Atlassian stack is super handy, don't know about costs though. That'll cover b (Jira), a, and g (bitbucket) for you. (Plus confluence wiki!) Jenkins CI? Sonar is good for coverage and other code quality stats
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gitlab-ci is pretty decent, and I can recommend it. It beats having to host all these tools separately (or paying through the nose for Atlassian stuff).
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If you don't need a complicated build set up (eg. output of this build feeds into these three builds) I'd aim for a simple hosted service like Travis or AppVeyor, otherwise you're looking at TeamCity or similar. And a paid GitHub account for (a), (b) and (g). It's pretty straight forward to tie those sort of build solutions into the GitHub pull request process so you can have your tests run and report coverage as part of the code review process if you set them to run in the build. If you need a more complicated issue tracker then JIRA is the big one, I'm not sure what the options are halfway. For the perf testing I think you'll need to give us a bit more information about what you're expecting to do/automate. If you can get away with not self-hosting I'd always recommend that. Otherwise you will run into crap like the git server running out of disk space, dealing with patching your build agents, provisioning new servers when you want to run more concurrent builds...
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