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Asuke/Rousey would be cool at SS or the next WM. Right now Asuka isn't over enough on the main roster to make it feel big. That said, I don't want to give WWE a year to gently caress up Asuka, so bring on the dream match!
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Blooming Brilliant posted:Asuke/Rousey would be cool at SS or the next WM. Right now Asuka isn't over enough on the main roster to make it feel big. I'm very wary of Asuka/Rousey. WWE is dumb enough to feed Asuka to Rousey, who is likely going to be working a Brock Lesnar like schedule at best. If the RAW Women's Division is bad now, just wait until after Rousey debuts and only shows up once every 4 months with the belt. There may as well not be a Women's Division after that.
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If Asuka isn't over enough after over 2 years of being undefeated to make a match with one of the biggest stars in fighting history feel big, then she should be fed to Ronda because those years have resulted in her being a net negative.
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Oh I'm totally with you there and think Ronda kill the division. Not through any fault of Rousey herself, just through WWE burning every resource they have on a slightly relevant mainstream star.rare Magic card l00k posted:If Asuka isn't over enough after over 2 years of being undefeated to make a match with one of the biggest stars in fighting history feel big, then she should be fed to Ronda because those years have resulted in her being a net negative. I'd say people generally over estimate how much NXT overness translates onto the main roster. That's just my cynical opinion though. Blooming Brilliant fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Jan 15, 2018 |
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I'd also like to mention that Stephanie has started posting workout videos on twitter/instagram, which means she's likely gearing up for a return to the ring soon. She'll probably be in the Royal Rumble, and its not unlikely that she eliminates Ronda, setting up a feud for Wrestlemania. It also helps that Batista wants to return to WWE supposedly. So you can have Ronda/Batista vs Stephanie/Triple H at Wrestlemania. Also Asuka was over on NXT. Really over. And she was over at Survivor Series and the night after. The problem is that WWE decided to not strike while the iron was hot. Along with the fact that WWE pushes whoever they want, and they obviously don't give a poo poo about crowd reactions.
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abraham linksys posted:no one talking about Lashley apparently doing a bow at TNA? was it an obvious angle or something or do people just legit not care about what that dude does next Everyone has known for a while he'd be done with the company soon and going off to either MMA fulltime or WWE. His and EC3's deals were up around the same time
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Blooming Brilliant posted:I'd say people generally over estimate how much NXT overness translates onto the main roster. That's just my cynical opinion though. It's not a question of NXT overness. A Ronda Rousey fight is bigger than Wrestlemania. Ronda vs. pretty much anyone in WWE, especially at their biggest show of the year, would be a big deal, so if Ronda/Asuka isn't big, it's because Asuka is dragging Ronda down hard.
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rare Magic card l00k posted:It's not a question of NXT overness. A Ronda Rousey fight is bigger than Wrestlemania. Ronda vs. pretty much anyone in WWE, especially at their biggest show of the year, would be a big deal, so if Ronda/Asuka isn't big, it's because Asuka is dragging Ronda down hard. Oh right I getcha, I misinterpreted what you meant. What's EC3 looking to do then? WWE voiced any interest?
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rare Magic card l00k posted:It's not a question of NXT overness. A Ronda Rousey fight is bigger than Wrestlemania. Ronda vs. pretty much anyone in WWE, especially at their biggest show of the year, would be a big deal, so if Ronda/Asuka isn't big, it's because Asuka is dragging Ronda down hard. I think the problem is that Asuka and Ronda shouldn't be facing off at Wrestlemania this year. It'll end up damaging either Ronda or Asuka. And in a sane world, Asuka would be seen as a valuable asset, considering she can drag a good match out of nearly anyone. (I say nearly because Nia and Alexa are both absolute garbage) My concern is that Ronda is going to run roughshod over the WWE Women's division, damaging it beyond repair. And its a very valid concern knowing WWE booking. Also you'll have some people who are really pissed off that Ronda comes in and crowned the queen of the women's division despite having literally no wrestling experience. She has combat sport experience, but I don't think she'll be anywhere near the draw WWE thinks she will be. Remember when people were excited that Lesnar was returning from the UFC and thought he would be a big draw? Well he barely moved the needle, and is now an active detriment to the RAW Division. I fully expect the same to happen with Ronda. As for Asuka not being over, that's not her fault. Blame WWE booking for that. They shouldn't have had her go in a competitive match on her main roster debut, along with not striking while the iron was hot after Survivor Series. DarkstarIV fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Jan 15, 2018 |
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Blooming Brilliant posted:What's EC3 looking to do then? WWE voiced any interest? Definitely WWE-bound
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Asuka is old and can't talk. She's at her limit, feed her to Stephanie.
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Chris James 2 posted:Definitely WWE-bound Probably for the New Orleans Takeover rather than Philly though, since they need some time to collect some clean Russian piss so he can pass a physical.
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Shinsuke winning the Romble would be a great way to get him back on track to being a top guy so of course WWE won't do that.
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Not being that guy but I said on here long ago EC3 and Lashley would be released earlier than July time.Blooming Brilliant posted:Oh right I getcha, I misinterpreted what you meant. About two years ago I said WWE had a lot of interest in EC3 and Spud. They were the two they'd take immediately if TNA ended around the time of the Billy and Dixie drama. Around that time it was still though Galloway was blackballed from WWE forever. To answer your question EC3's offer IS an NXT contract.
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IF Ronda is in the Rumble shouldn't she be announced for the match with 2 Raws to go? Having her as a surprise is a bit of a waste IMO. I was personally told around New Years Rousey is "one and done" in terms of how many matches she would work.
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Nakamura winning the Rumble would just be like Orton last year, with the Rumble winner getting the #3/#4 match on the card for the secondary title.
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Unlike Orton / Wyatt, this match would probably be the best one on the card
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Basic Chunnel posted:Unlike Orton / Wyatt, this match would probably be the best one on the card have you seen Nakamura wrestle lately
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Feels Villeneuve posted:have you seen Nakamura wrestle lately Eh, he's been tied to Jinder/Orton for like 8 months.
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He's probably capable of dialing it up to have a great match to be fair, but in the last 12 months I'm not sure I'd even put him top-10 in the company if you include NXT.
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Are they planning to take the strap off Styles or is there some reason why Styles couldn't carry Nak to at least 4.5 stars
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Feels Villeneuve posted:He's probably capable of dialing it up to have a great match to be fair, but in the last 12 months I'm not sure I'd even put him top-10 in the company if you include NXT.
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Basically whenever Nakamura didn't have a lead weight around his neck last year, he was great. He even managed to squeeze great TV matches out of Ziggler and Corbin. Also, whoever wins the Rumble is going 3rd from the top, so what does that matter. That has nothing to do with Nakamura, it's just the stupid corner they've booked themselves into.
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At least with Nak people will be happy with the Rumble winner and it's been a few loving years since that's happened and no Randy fuckin Orton doesn't count
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Orton was really people being happy with the Rumble loser.
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Outside of the G1 in NJPW Nakamura was mostly about one amazing match every 2 or 3 months plus if its Styles/Nakamura there's no way it'll be a bad match unless they only give them 9 minutes or something
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I agree that it's dumb how the rumble winner has been marginalized in terms of card placement at mania, especially when by all indications the main event is either Cena vs. Undertaker (a dream match that will probably not be very good between the two most established stars in the company) or Brock vs. Roman (the third, desperate attempt to legitimize Roman in front of the people who hate him most). That said though, winning the rumble is a rub Nakamura could use that Roman doesn't need at all, so from a storyline/booking perspective it makes sense. At the same time, either of the other two matches I just mentioned have more marquee value than Nakamura vs. AJ does. It sucks, but it's true.
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regardless of whether or not he's the last man standing if nak gets to transition skinning the cat into his entrance pose i'd call him the spiritual winner.
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Haven't watched WWE in ages, but is Roman still getting boos or have we reached the moment now where hes met with complete indifference?
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Gorn Myson posted:Haven't watched WWE in ages, but is Roman still getting boos or have we reached the moment now where hes met with complete indifference? Still boos but less so than post-mania. He's actually had some decent matches recently now that he's been defending the IC belt instead of hanging in the main event.
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Gorn Myson posted:Haven't watched WWE in ages, but is Roman still getting boos or have we reached the moment now where hes met with complete indifference? It's basically a re-run of 2016 where after he pissed hot and got demoted to the midcard for a few months, people stopped hating him quite so vociferously, then around Mania season he went right back to pinning everybody people actually like (Remember Fastlane 2016?!) so the hate went right back to the top. Since the Fall, he's been in the midcard and messing around with the Shield, so it's mostly okay with the added rubs of A) He's actually defending his midcard title this time! B) People are screaming at the top of their lungs how great it was every time he has a passable TV match. Pretty soon he'll be gearing up to main event Mania, so the hate'll work itself back up accordingly.
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if you're all about in-ring work and watch wwe, Roman is legit one of the top 5 dudes
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:if you're all about in-ring work and watch wwe, Roman is legit one of the top 5 dudes I mean if you're going to limit it to Raw and also discard 205 Live this is a statement that could potentially be correct I guess.
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Based solely on match quality in the last, like, six months or so and done purely in a vacuum, I guess you could make that argument, but that's a whole lot of asterisks. I can pretty easily think of five guys each from Raw, SmackDown, 205 Live and NXT that I'd put ahead of Roman that just don't get the benefit of wrestling against top tier workers all the time, getting 10+ minutes every week and getting relatively clean finishes to their matches. And probably five women, too.
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Top tier workers like the Miz, the Drifter and Braun Strowman
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Oh Snapple! posted:I mean if you're going to limit it to Raw and also discard 205 Live this is a statement that could potentially be correct I guess. nobody watches 205 Live, and I said "Top 5" for a reason this also includes woman
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roman reigns push is crap but holy hell, just say you don't like the guy and his booking sucks and is alienating for the majority of fans. don't pretend he can't go in the ring
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The Usos are probably more consistently great tv/ppv match wrestlers in the last 12 months. Probably AJ though I haven't really been watching SmackDown. Absolutely nobody on the Woman's side comes to mind.
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AJ Styles and The Usos are the best in the company. Becky Lynch would be if they actually booked her. Charlotte is there as well. Plus KO and Sami EDIT: on the flip side of the coin The Miz is the best promo in WWE right now even if his matches aren't the best Big Coffin Hunter fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Jan 15, 2018 |
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There's guys like Joe and Kevin Owens but it's notable that their best matches in the last year have been with Roman lol
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