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underage at the vape shop posted:what secret tech? a locking mechanism and a development of the wii sticks? Just the fact they detach and can be independent controllers would've given away some aspects of the Switch's nature before its official reveal.
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Overbite posted:The backpack wont even fit unless you're a little kid. Is the cardboard DRMed or something? I bet it'll be a week max before there are youtube videos of custom designs that work with the games. Really goofy pianos and poo poo.
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Jan 18, 2018 03:08
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lol cardboard is now #4 on the amazon videogame charts.
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Jan 18, 2018 03:09
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Wow an actual 4chan caliber post. Congrats, I guess
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Jan 18, 2018 03:09
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Al-Saqr posted:It's not a 'secret' tech it's more that those joycons are surprisingly high-tech and unique, he didnt describe specifics but he mentioned that nintendo really took the development of the joy-cons seriously and poured a ton of R&D into it.
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Jan 18, 2018 03:10
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homeless snail posted:You say what's the difference, but what are the similarities? These have to be built, they're craft kits first and foremost, and your kids sick cardboard robot suits will only work in one more than likely bad game. If it was a prebuilt cardboard steering wheel and they were like "play Mario Kart with this" then that would be stupid Yeah but the end result is the same, and kids build stuff out of cardboard for free all of the time and actually get to be creative while doing it vs following some instructions. This just seems like commodifying childhood creativity in a really cheesy, hip way. Don't get me wrong I'm sure there are plenty of kids toys out there that are way worse, and even I'll admit it's sort of neat, but the marketing is a lot more interesting than the actual product.
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Jan 18, 2018 03:10
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veni veni veni posted:Just one honest to god question, and then I'll go away and stop making fun of the cardboard thing I promise. There's a certain amount of ownership involved when your kid puts this together and actually gets it to work. It's something they made, they built. Furthermore it's a bit of a learning tool, because you actually have to figure out how to get this poo poo working before you can play the games. This is like those science kits for kids except there's a video game reward after your kid makes the thing.
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acksplode posted:Is the cardboard DRMed or something? I bet it'll be a week max before there are youtube videos of custom designs that work with the games. Really goofy pianos and poo poo. in a way you could say that the software is the DRM, because unless indie developers will make new games and 3D print cardboard then the software will determine how the cardboard is used. BASICALLY SOMEONE'S GONNA BEAT DARK SOULS WITH THE PIANO.
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Jan 18, 2018 03:11
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Cobalt Viper posted:They're just wiimotes with a slide rail though. And an IR sensor, and much better rumble, and better motion sensing.
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Jan 18, 2018 03:12
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Cobalt Viper posted:They're just wiimotes with a slide rail though. they're incredibly sensitive, high-fidelity, and high tech, HD rumble wii-motes that had to weigh almost nothing and be as small as they are while support things like this carboard application we're seeing now.
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Jan 18, 2018 03:13
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Al-Saqr posted:in a way you could say that the software is the DRM, because unless indie developers will make new games and 3D print cardboard then the software will determine how the cardboard is used. I believe you mean with the Robot kit.
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Jan 18, 2018 03:13
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Fair points though. The fact that they look to be somewhat complex kits does make them inherently more interesting than random Wiimote accessories.
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Harrow posted:And an IR sensor, and much better rumble, and better motion sensing.
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Jan 18, 2018 03:14
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People keep talking about playing other games with the piano, but given that it uses the IR camera, that seems unlikely... or am I underestimating the modding community?
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Jan 18, 2018 03:14
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Al-Saqr posted:BASICALLY SOMEONE'S GONNA BEAT DARK SOULS WITH THE PIANO. cardboard chat got interesting real quick Yeah I'm with veni veni veni on this, cool and neat I guess? I don't think irl kids are gonna love this anywhere near as much as goon opioon suggests, rather it's gonna be another quickly forgotten gimmick in a pile of neglected, busted up toys, but we'll see. In the meantine the switch library is still supremely strong and shows no signs of slowing down so more power to nintendo
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I think the joycons are cool but to tell some weird vague story about them being shrouded in mystery because of some super secret tech involved when in reality it's just a much better wiimote seems strange.
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Jan 18, 2018 03:15
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thexerox123 posted:People keep talking about playing other games with the piano, but given that it uses the IR camera, that seems unlikely... or am I underestimating the modding community? I believe people already have the Joy Con working on PCs.
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Jan 18, 2018 03:15
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Cobalt Viper posted:I think the joycons are cool but to tell some weird vague story about them being shrouded in mystery because of some super secret tech involved when in reality it's just a much better wiimote seems strange. I was gonna say, is there anything in them that's "secret," like at all? What exactly is remarkable about them, tech wise? I do enjoy using them and all but ?? It's called bluetooth
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Jan 18, 2018 03:16
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veni veni veni posted:Yeah but the end result is the same, and kids build stuff out of cardboard for free all of the time and actually get to be creative while doing it vs following some instructions. This just seems like commodifying childhood creativity in a really cheesy, hip way.
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Jan 18, 2018 03:17
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KingSlime posted:I was gonna say, is there anything in them that's "secret," like at all? What exactly is remarkable about them, tech wise? I do enjoy using them and all but ?? there's nothing in the joycon that's a secret, I was saying that nintendo took the development and secrecy of the joycons extremely seriously and poured alot into it to make it as powerful and small and light as it was..
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Jan 18, 2018 03:18
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I’m seeing so many posts saying “lol nerds are so mad about them making an announcement for kids then having an announcement for kids” and not any of the actual rants. It’s like when October comes around and nobody posts about pumpkin poo poo but everyone whines about people posting pumpkin poo poo.
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Jan 18, 2018 03:18
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I can just throw random cardboard at my kid and he'd probably enjoy that for a bit and build a fort or whatever. That's not the same as given him a kit that ends with a functional piano.
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Jan 18, 2018 03:18
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Cobalt Viper posted:I think the joycons are cool but to tell some weird vague story about them being shrouded in mystery because of some super secret tech involved when in reality it's just a much better wiimote seems strange. Try thinking of it this way; What do you think caused Sony and Microsoft to suddenly develop the Move and Kinect, respectively?
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Jan 18, 2018 03:18
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Hardcore gamers are big dumb whiny babies, what a surprise. That "games that respect my intelligence" post has to be the dumbest poo poo I've read all year.
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Jan 18, 2018 03:19
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Al-Saqr posted:there's nothing in the joycon that's a secret, I was saying that nintendo took the development and secrecy of the joycons extremely seriously and poured alot into it to make it as powerful and small and light as it was.. I guess that makes more sense. In a similar vein, I'm honestly surprised we haven't seen sony or MS crank out a quick switch-like console that plays their big boy console games. Like a revitalized Vita or something I'd buy a Sony Switch for what it's worth
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Jan 18, 2018 03:20
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Interesting part of Labo; Nintendo's going to give the cardboard patterns away for free So if you somehow have access to a printer that does cardboard, you're set for replacement parts I guess.
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Jan 18, 2018 03:21
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KingSlime posted:I'd buy a Sony Switch for what it's worth It's called a Vita, and nobody did.
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Jan 18, 2018 03:21
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veni veni veni posted:Yeah but the end result is the same, and kids build stuff out of cardboard for free all of the time and actually get to be creative while doing it vs following some instructions. This just seems like commodifying childhood creativity in a really cheesy, hip way. These are functioning mechanical toys, irrespective of what material they're made from. There's nothing wrong with providing pre-cut pieces and instructions for building something like that. It teaches about simple machines, gives the kid a chance to participate in building a toy for themselves, and provides an integrated in-game payoff. Free-form imaginative crafts are cool! Being able to build an intricate pulley-based piano that works is also very cool. Providing a kit to make the latter does not stifle the former. I would argue that building these kits will give kids ideas for more stuff they can make and invent on their own.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Interesting part of Labo; Nintendo's going to give the cardboard patterns away for free may as well, no reason people wouldn't be sharing working patterns in weeks or months, if not instantly out of the gate Waffleman_ posted:It's called a Vita, and nobody did. No the Switch is Vita 2.0, a SwitchVita would be a full blown PS4 slim that can be docked/undocked. Oh, I guess the horsepower isn't there yet
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KingSlime posted:I guess that makes more sense. In a similar vein, I'm honestly surprised we haven't seen sony or MS crank out a quick switch-like console that plays their big boy console games. Like a revitalized Vita or something LOL If you think Sony would support another portable system in the States any time soon.
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KingSlime posted:I guess that makes more sense. In a similar vein, I'm honestly surprised we haven't seen sony or MS crank out a quick switch-like console that plays their big boy console games. Like a revitalized Vita or something Waffleman_ posted:It's called a Vita, and nobody did. "It's the same console as a PS3, but portable! And you have to buy the games again for it!" "Where are you going? Why are you all buying PS3's instead?  "
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Rolo posted:I’m seeing so many posts saying “lol nerds are so mad about them making an announcement for kids then having an announcement for kids” and not any of the actual rants. This is the internet now. Angry ranting nerds are obsolete, you just need to imagine angry ranting nerds as the subject of your righteous fury.
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Jan 18, 2018 03:23
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thexerox123 posted:People keep talking about playing other games with the piano, but given that it uses the IR camera, that seems unlikely... or am I underestimating the modding community? You won't play other games with it on Switch, and the modding community isn't that far, but you can easily hook a joycon to a computer or cell phone, and people can write software to read the inputs however they want there. So yes, Dark Souls will be beat with the cardboard house
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Waffleman_ posted:It's called a Vita, and nobody did. I bet the Switch would have gotten less traction if you could only buy expensive proprietary MicroSD cards.
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Overbite posted:The backpack wont even fit unless you're a little kid. Make it bigger.
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KingSlime posted:I was gonna say, is there anything in them that's "secret," like at all? What exactly is remarkable about them, tech wise? I do enjoy using them and all but ?? The joycon is basically the premise of the Switch's design, which is flexibility and mobility. If you only knew what a single joycon looked like, with a little thought you could probably infer how the rest of the system looks in handheld mode. And then it's not a leap to imagine sliding them off to form a separate controller and using a TV for display. I can totally see why Nintendo kept that under wraps. They share a lot of technology with Wiimotes and there's obviously a lineage there, but calling them just Wiimotes is pretty dumb. Wiimotes couldn't form into the best gaming handheld I've ever owned like voltron. KingSlime posted:I guess that makes more sense. In a similar vein, I'm honestly surprised we haven't seen sony or MS crank out a quick switch-like console that plays their big boy console games. Like a revitalized Vita or something Sony tried and gave up, MS doesn't care about mobile devices that aren't Windows laptops.
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At least there are enough Vitas floating around in Japan that they can keep porting PS4 games to it for a few more years.
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Jan 18, 2018 03:24
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“Lol kids will never enjoy it! It’s just a piece of cardboard that only fits together one way, there’s no creativity involved in it!” -some idiot when puzzles first came out
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acksplode posted:Sony tried and gave up, MS doesn't care about mobile devices that aren't Windows laptops. Yeah sony took a beating but that was their own dumbass fault for not supporting it properly. People wanted to love the vita, I could tell. I loved the vita... but now friendship with Vita is over and Switch is my new best friend
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